Mafia 119: MURDER AT HOTEL DEATH(GAME OVER)

[Espeonage]

I like lookers play. It is pro town, scummy or not.

I think zwet over CKD because zwet felt the need to claim AFTER he could have easily flown under the radar. Instead he goes and leechs of the townie vibes surrounding the earlier claim.

[Pomegranate]

Has anybody seen Pomegranate?

I have!!!!

(Sorry for the unexplained absence- I forgot to mention that I would be v/la for a couple days due to Rosh Hashanah. Will read up.)

[horrordude0215]

Opens with a solid point on zwet, follows up with pointing out Espy had, indeed, pointed out Snake's claim well before he had (I didn't even put much thought into Looker pointing it out because Espy had already shown it quite clearly by then anyway, why is Looker getting grief for that and not Espy?)

Are you fucking serious? *facepalm* Look at Espy's post!

unvote

Came in late and didn't realise that RV had pretty much finished. I shoule Watch out more I guess.

Dude, seriously?

Someone explain how the HELL you can translate that as "You shouldn't have sofclaimed"?

Looker is obv. town, he's pushing people, and pointing out things that need pointing out.

How the fuck is pointing out a softclaim something that needs to be done and is obvtown? WTF?

Someone ask me something simple about the game please.

Did you notice Snake's alleged softclaim?

Looker is scum, and when he flips as such, I think I'm gonna be taking a closer look at Prana.

[CooLDoG]

@CKD, I know you have answered before, but answer the simple question. Why the claim? Thank you, quit avoiding it. I could look back and tread through that long discussion on it, but I want to hear it here and now from you.

@Volk: Horrors only def was that vez was guilty of the same thing as him. This does not defend the point it simply attacks Vez. Also I think omgus does exist, however I don't base my tells on that alone.

@ESP That big post you promised us?

[CooLDoG]

BTW, I might be gone for the rest of the day.

[horrordude0215]

@horror... Have to post quick, but read my post and your post. Read the quotes, you did say in not these terms, that it does invalidate his reasons, thus you just lyed. Sorry I have to be so frank about but I have to run. I might not be able to post the rest of the day.

Quote me saying where I "invalidated" his reasons. I didn't. I was merely stating that he needed to explain his reads and not be so contradictory.

@Volk: Horrors only def was that vez was guilty of the same thing as him. This does not defend the point it simply attacks Vez. Also I think omgus does exist, however I don't base my tells on that alone.

I never said that vez was guilty of the same thing as me. Actually, I was pointing out that he calls me out for not posting content, and I mentioned that he hadn't done anything. This is the second time you've agreed with him that I haven't posted any content. EXPLAIN NOW.

kthxbai

[Looker]

Why is everyone so snippy all of a sudden?

• CKD, I agree with you that there is scum in your neighborhood; I just don't think it's singersigner. I don't understand why you went about your claim the way you did.
  
• Zwet, it's impossible to do "nothing but mainly" anything.
  
• Espy, they both could have flown under the radar.
  
• Pom, why were you opposed to claiming?
  
• HorrorDude, it's not a matter of "how", it's a matter of "if". Espeonage's reaction was ambiguous enough to be taken multiple ways. Also, I wouldn't be so sure about me being scum.

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[Looker]

If I gave you the promise of an interesting claim, would you keep me alive Day 2?

[horrordude0215]

HorrorDude, it's not a matter of "how", it's a matter of "if". Espeonage's reaction was ambiguous enough to be taken multiple ways. Also, I wouldn't be so sure about me being scum.

As I mentioned before, it'd be a huge stretch to assume that's what it was. You've never disagreed with me in this aspect. But please comment on the doctor part of my 385.

If I gave you the promise of an interesting claim, would you keep me alive Day 2?

I go on a case-by-case basis with claims. If and when you get to L-1, we'll talk to then.

[Looker]

By stating that that's what I thought it was, I'm refuting that it was a huge stretch. This entire conversation's been a disagreement.

And the second part wasn't for me, it was how I perceived CKD's claim.

[Looker]

Unless, of course, you thought I was calling myself an idiot.

[horrordude0215]

By stating that that's what I thought it was, I'm refuting that it was a huge stretch. This entire conversation's been a disagreement.

Not necessarily. You can believe something and still think it's a stretch.
Apparently it's not the case this time though, my bad.

[horrordude0215]

And CKD's posts didn't read that to me... In fact he said that he'd claim by the end of the day no matter what, not that he only wanted to live to Day 2...

[Looker]

Well of course he wouldn't say that, but that's what it reads like to me. I mean, why would any alignment other than town claim? In order to believe his claim, we have to take his towniness as a given. But what if he's

not

town?

Gah, please forgive my enthusiasm; my girlfriend's coming over.

[curiouskarmadog]

@CKD, I know you have answered before, but answer the simple question. Why the claim? Thank you, quit avoiding it. I could look back and tread through that long discussion on it, but I want to hear it here and now from you.

I am not avoiding shit, your question has been answered...in several posts...what I am trying to do now is seeing if you are scum hunting or asking questions to look like you are scum hunting...seems to me if you really wanted to know (or scum hunt) the answer you would a.) go back and look or b.) answer my question.

sooo

Cooldog, can you please tell me what my claim is.....once you do that, please tell me what the mechanic is behind the claim (consider this a lesson in critical thinking, if you

really

want to know the answer,but are too fucking lazy to go back and actually read the post where I explain in detail why and when I claimed you have to play along).

[Looker]

He has a point.

[Pomegranate]

[*]Pom, why were you opposed to claiming?

Are you asking about before or after CKD claimed?

[Espeonage]

@ HD: Not until you pointed it out. I can see it now without having to go back and actually see when the softclaim was outed.

[horrordude0215]

Okay, so Looker's argument is moot. Lynch plz

[zwetschenwasser]

I like lookers play. It is pro town, scummy or not.

I think zwet over CKD because zwet felt the need to claim AFTER he could have easily flown under the radar. Instead he goes and leechs of the townie vibes surrounding the earlier claim.

This sounds like a town tell to me. Are you calling me town or scum?

[Looker]

• @Pom; both.
  
• @Horror; My argument isn't moot; your debate is invalid. The mere fact that it could've been interpreted the way I interpreted it proves my point. You've already acquiesced to this claim.

[Looker]

But, of course, you're entitled to the freedom to beat this dead horse.

[Espeonage]

Flying under the radar means null in this sense.

[Looker]

If CKD were to be NKd the way he claimed, wouldn't his role be shown upon death?

[zwetschenwasser]

Flying under the radar means null in this sense.

so the fact that I'm not makes me town?