Mini 1061: Mafia in Someplace - Game Over!


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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:37 pm

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So how do these setups where no one knows each other's roles work? If someone claims a pr that isn't in the game we still have to guess if they're scum or not?

Also I'm a firm believer that random voting is pointless. I understand that people are gonna argue theory saying that its the best way to get the game going and it tells a bunch of about the character of everyone playing. But in my opinion, the information from random votes is almost just as reliable as the votes. When you see me vote, it'll be because I think that person is scum.
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:40 pm

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Retro, just bandwagon my vote. I'm right.

Its generally how we get the game going, although I have read of other methods.
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:45 pm

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I refuse. >:[

However, I somewhat agree with your super super premature read based on one post from TheLonging. If I had to point at someone that I wouldn't be voting in a random vote, it would be him.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:45 pm

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Retro the information about from the RVS often won't give us much but the information gained from the discussion that takes place because of the nonsense that goes on during the RVS gives us plenty.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:46 pm

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Retro, we look at later bandwagons to determine things. I know you don't think much of it but this is like an investment for later down the road.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:52 pm

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I disagree. Almost all reactions to random votes are null tells based on how new the player is. For instance in my first game, I flipped shit when my friend had two random votes on her in the very beginning of the game because I thought everyone was just auto lynching her 'to get the game started'. Anyway, I quickly learned that no one takes RVS seriously and everyone just bandwagons. People in random votes vote for
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reasons or for the sake of voting with others. None of any of this is indicative of alignment.

Anyway, I agree with discussions in early game, I just think that there's so many null tells involved in Random voting that its just a waste of time.

RVS or no RVS is pretty much a matter of personal opinion. And just how I feel that random votes don't indicate alignment, neither does my disapproval in random voting.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:52 pm

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You just completely ignored what I said, well done.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:54 pm

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Yeah but we see certain subtle reactions to certain bandwagons. Trust me, its good. You want to get out of it fast but its good.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:56 pm

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el simo wrote:You just completely ignored what I said, well done.
Thanks :D

For the record, I only saw Matt's post.

And how do you figure? What has our little argument over random voting told you about alignment thus far?
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:57 pm

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Nothing. Just flippin vote xD.
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 5:58 pm

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Btw, initial puzzle piece:

If El Simo is scum (no, I am not saying you are) than TheLonging is probably town. Anyone who figures out why gets 2 slaxx points.
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:00 pm

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Because you already know all three mafia? :D
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:03 pm

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Nope. Retro you're pretty good at picking up hints and I already know your style of play so I would prefer you not answer the question. I want to learn something new about somebody.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:04 pm

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Thanks to his sig I Wikistudied El Simo and found out he is an alt, not just some newb.

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:06 pm

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Slaxx wrote:Nope. Retro you're pretty good at picking up hints and I already know your style of play so I would prefer you not answer the question. I want to learn something new about somebody.
Can I at least get one point for effort though?

And sounds interesting, I'm game. o.o
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:07 pm

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You get unlimited slaxx points because I already know you're a good scumhunter. And I will know your alignment by the end of the day, and you will know mine too. Its just come from months of playing EM with you.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:10 pm

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diddin wrote:Thanks to his sig I Wikistudied El Simo and found out he is an alt, not just some newb.

Vote: Benmage


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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:11 pm

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slaxx wrote:You get unlimited slaxx points because I already know you're a good scumhunter. And I will know your alignment by the end of the day, and you will know mine too. Its just come from months of playing EM with you.
This means if one of us gets NK'd the other is probably mafia xD (like always)
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:12 pm

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AH dont start that WIFOM shiz in here
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:13 pm

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xD You know its true!
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:33 pm

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Meh.

Alright so I take it Diddin doesnt want the totally meaningless slaxx points :/
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:54 pm

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Nope not at all
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:19 am

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Second Vote Count of Day 1:

[1] Benmage - diddin

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to achieve a lynch and to end Day 1. Deadline for this day can be found here.
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:47 am

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Hello everyone, just here to confirm and to mention points are not meaningless, points mean prizes!
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:50 am

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Retrospective wrote:Also I'm a firm believer that random voting is pointless. I understand that people are gonna argue theory saying that its the best way to get the game going and it tells a bunch of about the character of everyone playing. But in my opinion, the information from random votes is almost just as reliable as the votes. When you see me vote, it'll be because I think that person is scum.
Oh my god.

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