Mini 1061: Mafia in Someplace - Game Over!

[el simo]

I just don't wanna waste my time posting a ton of stuff when a whole lot of it could become irrelevant based on what happens over night.

I will say that I am still primarily suspicious of Elleran and Sweep.

How will anything you've noticed become irrelevant because someone is going to be killed? This is rubbish.

[ICEninja]

diddin be more helpful

Says our most useless player.

[DemonHybrid]

diddin be more helpful

Says our most useless player.

Hypocritical, but true.

[Slaxx]

31 page day 1.

Yawn.

[RichardGHP]

Eleventh Vote Count of Day 1:

[0] Benmage - [

diddin

]
[0] Slaxx - [

TheLonging Elleran

Smitser

]
[4] Elleran - [

Sweep Slaxx

DemonHybrid,

ICEninja

diddin,

Benmage

TheLonging,

Slaxx, ICEninja]
[2] ICEninja - [

Benmage, el simo, diddin

Smitster, TheLonging]
[0] Sweep - [

Elleran, ICEninja, Slaxx, Retrospective

Jase,

DemonHybrid

]
[2] Retrospective - [

ICEninja,

el simo, Elleran

Sweep, Elleran]
[0] TheLonging - [

Jase

]
[0] diddin - [

el simo

Elleran

]
[1] Jase - [el simo]
[3] el simo - [Benmage,

ICEninja,

Retrospective

Jase, Retrospective]
[0] DemonHybrid - [

Retrospective

Slaxx

]
[0] No Lynch -

Smitster

[0] Not Voting

Names in

strikethrough text

indicate unvotes.

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to achieve a lynch and to end Day 1. Deadline for this day can be found here.

[Slaxx]

For those of you too oblivious or too lazy to click on the link deadline is in four days, so get on a choo-choo and lets go.

[ICEninja]

Seriously, it is time to lynch Elleran. Simo is the only person who has put forth any reason to lynch someone other than Elleran, and he still finds Elleran suspicious based on my most recent case.

Retro, Jace, and Ben, consider if lynching simo today is our best bet. It is a decent lynch, yes, but not the best.
Longing and diddin, it would be nice if you guys actually played the game.
Sweep, we aren't lynching Retro today.
Smitster, you don't have a valid reason for voting me, unless there is more you haven't said.

[el simo]

Eh I thought Ell was at L-1 lol.

[Benmage]

simo...really..still voting jase?

[Smitster]

Seriously, it is time to lynch Elleran. Simo is the only person who has put forth any reason to lynch someone other than Elleran, and he still finds Elleran suspicious based on my most recent case.

Retro, Jace, and Ben, consider if lynching simo today is our best bet. It is a decent lynch, yes, but not the best.
Longing and diddin, it would be nice if you guys actually played the game.
Sweep, we aren't lynching Retro today.
Smitster, you don't have a valid reason for voting me, unless there is more you haven't said.

ICE, you haven't really answer my suspicions in my last and third last post. Seemed to have evaded them well in fact. Unfortunately the 4 that have voted for Ell are not on my good list.

On that point, if Ell flips town, are you going to say "well sorry, okay, lets move on" and target me, as you have been saying in your responses to me?

This post of yours is actually very ominous.

[el simo]

simo...really..still voting jase?

No?

[Jase]

Well alright. Let's get this done.

Unvote

Vote: Elleran

[el simo]

:@Mod: my vote is on ICEninja.

[Retrospective]

lol Elleran is voting me now? xDDD

[Retrospective]

@Mod; Unless I missed something, Elleran isn't voting me
Also, I am voting Elleran not simo

[Elleran]

Wow, I'm going to die, aren't I?

[DemonHybrid]

Wow, I'm going to die, aren't I?

Yeah, pretty much. You haven't really done anything town all game.

[Slaxx]

Wow, I'm going to die, aren't I?

Yeah, pretty much. You haven't really done anything town all game.

[ICEninja]

Your last paragraph here is a complete contradiction i.e. you saying that if a pr will prove me as town it removes my liability but you go to say either way I'm a liability.

You misunderstand me. I mean you'll be a liability either way UNLESS you are cleared by a power role.

And no, I am not role fishing. I am simply stating the truth. I'm pretty sure every veteran player would back me up in saying that you

must

die before lylo, and are therefore a liability, doubly so if you aren't going to do useful scum hunting. If a pr clears you, that is good because it forces scum to night kill you. This is what I want.

Sounds, again, to me that you are fishing for a pr, want to lynch a town today, kill a town tonight and lynch another town (me) tomorrow.

Actually I want to lynch scum both today and tomorrow. If Elleran is scum, I think you're scum with him. If he isn't, then I don't think you're scum, so your assumed line of reasoning is false.

Mod, can we have a single updated vote count without the strikes? I'm fine with the strikes continuing, but I feel like we need a really clear vote count for this stage of the day.

[Elleran]

Well, I claim VT. Not that it does much, but that's what I am.

[Smitster]

Your last paragraph here is a complete contradiction i.e. you saying that if a pr will prove me as town it removes my liability but you go to say either way I'm a liability.

You misunderstand me. I mean you'll be a liability either way UNLESS you are cleared by a power role.

And no, I am not role fishing. I am simply stating the truth. I'm pretty sure every veteran player would back me up in saying that you

must

die before lylo, and are therefore a liability, doubly so if you aren't going to do useful scum hunting. If a pr clears you, that is good because it forces scum to night kill you. This is what I want.

Sounds, again, to me that you are fishing for a pr, want to lynch a town today, kill a town tonight and lynch another town (me) tomorrow.

Actually I want to lynch scum both today and tomorrow. If Elleran is scum, I think you're scum with him. If he isn't, then I don't think you're scum, so your assumed line of reasoning is false.

Mod, can we have a single updated vote count without the strikes? I'm fine with the strikes continuing, but I feel like we need a really clear vote count for this stage of the day.

Seems to me as if you are talking in circles here.

Still don't see how a pr will clear me without fessing up. You fishing. How would that make me less of a liability (the word you like to use)? If I were scum, I would not kill the VT rather try get a hit on a pr. How would it force them to kill me?

You want them to NK me???? That's the nail in your coffin.

[ICEninja]

Still don't see how a pr will clear me without fessing up. You fishing. How would that make me less of a liability (the word you like to use)? If I were scum, I would not kill the VT rather try get a hit on a pr. How would it force them to kill me?

OK I am going to try to explain this one last time, because you seem to really not understand me. I'm not asking for a pr to clear you. I am simply stating that if a pr doesn't clear you, we

have

to lynch you before lylo. You claimed VT on day one when you weren't under any pressure at all, which is so ridiculously helpful for scum and damaging to town that we have to lynch you for it.

It sucks, because if Elleran flips town, I don't necessarily think you're scum.

You want them to NK me???? That's the nail in your coffin.

Yes I want them to NK you. How in god's name is that bad for town? If you end up being a confirmed townie, then you no longer end up as a liability to town and you become an asset to town, therefore scum will be forced to NK. Let me explain why this is good:
1) Scum isn't NKing a more helpful player, and isn't able to take out another threat.
2) You die, and we don't have to use a lynch on you. Unless Elleran flips scum, in which case I think you're scum too.
3) Scum can't lead a mislynch on you. This is significant, because you look scummy. Scum instead will have to try to lead a mislynch on a more town looking player, which is harder.

Get it? Now until you post something that actually contains reasoned logic that indicates anything I'm saying about you is scummy, I'm done with this argument.

Can we please lynch Elleran now? The deadline is disturbingly close.

[Smitster]

No, I still don't see what you getting at and still believe you are scum. No need to continue with the discussion.

[Sweep]

Okay let's lynch Elleran. Deadline is very close.

UNVOTE: Retro[/vote]
VOTE: Elleran

Reasons as per Slaxx's summary post, if people REALLY want my own explanation then let me know but we need to get a lynch.

[Sweep]

That's UNVOTE: Retro
VOTE: Elleran