Mini 1061: Mafia in Someplace - Game Over!

[DemonHybrid]

I think Ben's saying that it was more Sweep's doing and less Retro's doing.

Still, I think he had a -valid- case regardless. It can be valid and non-convincing, they aren't mutually inclusive.

[Retrospective]

@Slaxx; You don't have to defend your position on Sweep yesterday. Or else everyone else would have to as well. That kid was scummy and he deserved to be lynched.

I'm haven't made up my mind on who we should focus on today. The obvious choice is Smit. I just don't want to have a day that is as short as d2 was.

Anyway, I'm not gonna ISO Smit until later or at least until someone brings forward a bunch of stuff. My interest level for this game when Sweep flipped town plummeted.

My read on Jace has liquiflied a bit but is still in town.

I admit I giggled when ICE died because it means simo was wrong again. And I'm not sure where I would rank simo. There are some towntells he pulled yesterday, but I'm not sure if that was just me favoring a Sweep lynch or if they were actually significant. If Slaxx is mafia then he deserves to win because I think he's town.

I still don't think there was a bus d1 with DH, Slaxx and diddin. Especially diddin. But I'm not sure where I stand on Jace/simo/smit/ben

[TheLonging]

vote: smitster

I agree with this lynch, but tomorrow we can make an el simo lynch happen right?

[Slaxx]

Not if you keep setting up lynches >>

[DemonHybrid]

Unvote

I want Smitster's claim before someone quickhammers like a jackass.

[TheLonging]

I see what you say but that's not my whole point at all. smit is a horrible VI and el simo is scummy. And you people post at an insane pace and it's almost impossible to keep up

[Slaxx]

I am insane.

DH he claimed VT.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: Smitster

My bad, I completely forgot that he claimed.

[Retrospective]

Erm is this game just full of VTs?

[Slaxx]

Nah.

[diddin]

I can has hammer?

[DemonHybrid]

I can has hammer?

Why are you looking for approval?

[diddin]

I want to know if you guys want this day to last any longer.

[Slaxx]

unvote

[DemonHybrid]

I want to know if you guys want this day to last any longer.

Alright.

Well, I personally don't think we're going to get much more out of Smitster, but I don't know how everyone else feels.

[DemonHybrid]

unvote

I spoke too soon. What's up?

[Slaxx]

Just like yesterday I want everyone's stance on Smit before we lynch. I don't want to sound bossy, but I kind of think its the correct thing to do.

It doesnt have to be long, I just gave a couple sentences as to why I am voting him.

[DemonHybrid]

Same. He's devolved into legitimate scumtells, has terrible logic, is trying to push suspicion onto everyone, and gave an easy claim (if anyone needed my reasons reiterated).

[Jase]

I'm not necessarily sure that smit is scummy exactly. The way he has acted makes it very difficult for me to be confident in any read of him. No matter what he says now it will be tainted by his previous instability. Scum or no, smit is going to be a poison to the town until he has died. I hate to give scum a nightkill for what (to me at least) is essentially a roll of the dice, but that's the way it has to be. I think we should lynch smit today. Though we should not rush things. Let's get some good discussion in first.

[Smitster]

Lynch me if you feel the risk of lynching a pr is too high at this stage or you are not confident enough to lynch a scum.

DH you better brush up on your "read" logic and also all those that read me as scum. Yeah I might me playing badly and have no logic bla, bla but at this stage why knowingly lynch a town?

[Slaxx]

We don't know that.

If we knew this wouldn't be a problem.

[RichardGHP]

First Vote Count of Day 3:

[3] Smitster - [

Slaxx, DemonHybrid

Benmage, TheLonging, DemonHybrid]
[1] el simo - [Smitster]
[5] Not Voting - [el simo, diddin, Slaxx, Retrospective, Jase]

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to achieve a lynch and to end Day 3. Deadline for this day can be found here.

[Benmage]

Yesterdays wagon anaylsis:
DH vote post 1111:

Smitster is nothing but ultra-VI town, like TL said. Like I said, bad scum at least have some logic. He's been degraded to none.

I feel as if you're looking for an easy lynch, not even realizing that Smitster isn't going to be lynched today.

Vote: Sweep

I'm feeling Sweep/simo/possibly Benmage, but we'll see.

Strike 1. Doesn’t explain the Sweep vote in the vote post.
Strike2. Something key to note. Calls Smitster ultra-VI town. Yet today is willing to lynch, but wasn’t yesterday when it was more logical to do so. Also look at the three people in his scum team. 1 town flip. I’m town, and doesn’t pursue simo nor I today. It is, like I said, interesting to note.

Diddin vote post 1118.

That long enough for you guys?

That's what he said.

Unvote Vote: Sweep

I've liked a Sweep lynch for ages and his coming back he says NOTHING about the competing wagon. NOTHING at all.

Scumbuddies, ho!

BTW a Sweep scum flip will essentially confirm Smit as town tomorrow.

El simo post 1120:

Yeah I don't think there is much arguing against Retro with this one. His case on Sweep is to Bens on mine, I can't defend it because it is what happened, same as Sweep.

ICE I believe he did claim in that post, "once I flip town."

vote: Sweep

I feel sorry for my replacement. If the game doesn't start up before I leave (2 days and 16 hours from this post) then good luck to my replacement, to the town, and I'm going to cry if we get this win and has to go on my record as being replaced out.

Note the first paragraph. Re-reading it I get the feeling he is either calling himself scum, or willfully voting someone he thinks is town. Either way it reads scummy.

Retro vote post 1090:

Eh... I can't believe I'm saying this but simo begging for Jace to be noticed as he is being lynched strikes me as town. However his whole lynch me attitude is pissing me off. Isn't it against the rules to play against win his win condition? If he was so adament for his lynch, he could self vote which makes me think he's mafia trying to wifom his way out. Talk about a tone chance. Yesterday I was a moron for suspecting him, today he wants to be lynched...

I'm going to appease Slaxx because I feel like Sweep is just as good of a lynch. I also want to see how long this self-sacrificial attitude el simo is playing lasts with a tad less pressure on him. I can always switch back, but let's see what happens next.

Unvote;
Vote: Sweep

Retro’s future “case” post 1114.

Jase vote post 1162:

Yeah ok um. What? Why is ben so suspicious? I just did an ISO of him and found nothing damning. What is the case against him based on?

Discussion is already winding down eh? Alright. Fine.

vote: Sweep

Not only did he do those things retro just outlined, but some of those accusations he simply ignored (specifically D1). When I called him out for tunneling retro, and he never did get around to giving a satisfactory explanation to why he said Ice was pulling a gambit.

If I die tonight I bet it's because simo killed me. I've been hounding him forever >:-[

What can I say…I’m bias to that first part. I like the vote +additional explanation. The last sentence wifom sandwhich I could’ve lived without…but Jase does look better, and I never understood the full tunnelage simo gave him…but I suppose I could do a full iso on Jase.

Slaxx vote post 1086:

Vote Sweep with me Retro, its what cool kids do. /yawn.

unvote

Vote Sweep

Possibly more thoughts to come, thinking on things....than i'm sure a conclusion of sorts.

[DemonHybrid]

Ben, you realize that my first vote in the game was Sweep, right? With a giant catching-up of everything up to that point?

[Benmage]

Ben, you realize that my first vote in the game was Sweep, right? With a giant catching-up of everything up to that point?

So your points on pg seven is why you wanted to lynch him 40 pages later? Please tell me thats what you just said.