Mini 1061: Mafia in Someplace - Game Over!

[TheLonging]

I am still here and still content on a smit lynch. El simo may be the last scum. Though now I'm not sure. I guess I'd say diddin if I HAD to pick one.

[Retrospective]

I am still here and still content on a smit lynch. El simo may be the last scum. Though now I'm not sure. I guess I'd say diddin if I HAD to pick one.

Why?

Actually, why for all three? And what do you think of massclaiming?

[DemonHybrid]

I'm okay with the massclaim as well.

[Slaxx]

Mass claim it is then. Diddin can start since he volunteered.

[Benmage]

I'm against the mass claim on the premise that if there was an investigative role, which isn't a guarantee I think they would've claimed their results already and therefore we are either only going to out town PR(s) or maybe an investigator who used an investigation on someone now dead. I doubt the last one, although it is a possibility and would be unfortunate...but I am still against it for my other reason.

[Benmage]

Let me continue....if there is an investigative role who can clear two townies, and didn't know if now was the right time todo so.... IT is. That'd clear 3, and then I see no reason not to proceed with a full mass claim. Which could give us our first nights block PR which would likely clear 4 and yield us a small pool of scum to pick from.

[Retrospective]

The three clears I was referring to were the doc, the saved and the investigation role. Any added reports or just a bonus.

I still think we should massclaim.

And if you're refraining from claiming because you're afraid of mafia attention, you just softclaimed hardcore. It's not like mafia wouldn't catch that.

[Benmage]

Hmmm yeah I guess the doc or jk/ plus their target if alive would be good information to have before a possible NK tonight.

[Slaxx]

Thats what Im sayin bros. ^^

Plus if we have 3 PR claims IMO all 3 of them are clear, or at least 2, because 2-3 is standard mininormal.

We already have two VT claims, if both of them are town, then yeah...mafia has a great shot at PRs tonight and I dont wanna take that risk.

[Retrospective]

Thats what Im sayin bros. ^^

Plus if we have 3 PR claims IMO all 3 of them are clear, or at least 2, because 2-3 is standard mininormal.

We already have two VT claims, if both of them are town, then yeah...mafia has a great shot at PRs tonight and I dont wanna take that risk.

This is a good point.

If the claimed VT's are town, mafia already has like a 3/4 shot of hitting a pr. It's better for us to know before it happens.

[diddin]

All right guys claiming now since quite a few of us are in support of it.

I'm the

Town Doctor

You know what I can do. I protected Slaxx night 1 and I am going to assume I saved him. Night 2 I protected DemonHybrid even though it doesn't matter too much.

So Slaxx is like 100% town to me.

Catchin up tomorrow afternoon when my V/LA ends then postin content.

Ell flipping scum is a pretty big point in favor of myself and Slaxx being town, among other people.

Above was a breadcrumb, I tried to divert scum away from me by crumbing what might appear as a cop result to some people.

[Slaxx]

aw thanks diddin ^^

I didn't wanna be cocky about it but I figured I was the saved person :p

[Slaxx]

I will claim next. I am a Vanilla Townie, apparently one with a few stitches in my abdomen :p

[Retrospective]

I believe it. I'm glad that I was right about both of you.

I'm going to claim last. I have my reasons as I'll explain upon claiming.

[DemonHybrid]

Alright, I'll claim 3rd.

I'm a Town Hider. I hid behind TL the first night because I never thought he was scummy, but he was also lurky enough to justify picking him. However, I decided to hide behind Slaxx the 2nd night. With the town flip of Sweep, Slaxx's unrelenting "Sweep must die" posting and Jase coming out of nowhere with a complete pro-townish attitude (I honestly thought he was the most pro-town out of everyone and was going to die that night), I thought that he'd be safe enough to hide behind; not scummy (I didn't think scum would tunnel that hard. Perhaps I took too much of a chance on this one, but who knows) and not a likely nightkill target. Like I said, I never really thought Slaxx was scummy, but he wasn't the best looking either, especially after the flip.

I'll believe diddin's Doctor claim (unless, of course, there happens to be a counterclaim). I'll also believe your N1 action. Slaxx is cleared enough to me, because I really don't think scum would forgo their first night kill.

Nothing much more to say. I also think this clears TL, though I was never explicitly told that I would die hiding behind mafia, however, I assume so.

[Slaxx]

LOL I am like super cleared!

[Retrospective]

Alright. I was going to wait for a investigative role to claim so I could say "I roleblocked you! You're mafia!" and vote for reactions but I wasn't expecting Hider. (I had to ask Slaxx what that role even did.)

Anyway, I think we have autowin.

I'll roleblock someone who claims VT, DH tells us his target. If he picks scum only he will die and we will know who to lynch. Doc can be on me and we can just go at it. Slaxx will probably be clear.

I have a question, should we not use this ml? I haven't counted it out but it seems like mafia can get two kills and if we lynch town and then two town dies I feel that we could be in a very bad place. Also is there a chance I was wrong about the number of mafia at the beginning of this game? If mafia can kill twice would it still be balanced with three people as mafia?

[Retrospective]

Eww I didn't finish my thought.

Slaxx will probably be the clear at lylo.*

[Retrospective]

Also I don't think mafia has a stalker role because they should've gotten at least two stalks and with Smit claiming VT and Sweep and el simo claiming VT is seems like they would have had enough stalks to hit a pr last night.

[Slaxx]

We lynch Smit today, thats all there is to that. Now listen to your double cleared Vanilla Townie master and string his ass up

[DemonHybrid]

Retro, what role are you? Just so I know what's going on here.

[diddin]

Where in hell did you get the assumption scum can kill twice?

The only way there would be two deaths is if DH's claim is true and he hides behind mafia.

I am skeptical of DH's claim however. The fact that his PM was not specifically worded to tell him leaves a nagging feeling he is fakeclaiming. Hider is also a very safe scumclaim as they can just claim to have hid behind their buddies to "clear" them.

[Slaxx]

If we dont have any PR CCs, then I think this might be autowin...Hider/Doc/Roleblocker sounds right.

We have 2 mislynches, 2 remaining unconfirmed townies, and 2 remaining scum (assumably).

I dont think DH should hide tbh

Preview Edit: I believe the claim Diddin, unless another investigative role claims, in which case one is probably lying.

[Retrospective]

I'm Town Roleblocker, DH.

I thought it was obvious when I said "I roleblocked you!"

[DemonHybrid]

Where in hell did you get the assumption scum can kill twice?

The only way there would be two deaths is if DH's claim is true and he hides behind mafia.

I am skeptical of DH's claim however. The fact that his PM was not specifically worded to tell him leaves a nagging feeling he is fakeclaiming. Hider is also a very safe scumclaim as they can just claim to have hid behind their buddies to "clear" them.

Well, from what I recall, hiders don't always have to die when targeting mafia (only usually), and I think that might be why my PM didn't have that explicitly stated, which makes things kind of confusing and prevents clearing. This would make sense in a game with only 12 people; so many people could get cleared very fast, and it doesn't make too much sense in a game with that little amount of people.

I would keep that in mind before we make any plans about me dying while hiding behind scum. While I'm all for it, it could very well backfire.

I'm Town Roleblocker, DH.

I thought it was obvious when I said "I roleblocked you!"

Jailkeepers can roleblock too. Anyway, do you have specific conditions?