GhostWriter: 1 (VasudeVa) L-6
podium: 4 (Fate, GhostWriter, Nacho, Seacore) L-3
Seacore: 2 (implosion, podium) L-5
VibeBox: 2 (Magna, Zinive) L-5
Well you didn't. Seriously... the only reason i'm not worried about what me calling a stop to the podium/fate show might look like to others, is because im confident that by reading your input they will understand why i did, and agree it was the right call.Fate wrote:Thanks for playing. You put up a pretty good fight if its any consolation.
Consider your playstyle for a bit. It's pretty reasonable for scum to kiss your ass if you are tunneling on a Townie.Fate wrote:VV's GHOST AND NACHO SCUM TOGETHER SHEEPIN FATE! Is hilarious.
Him using the words "Fate-virgin" should be added to the wiki. In fact, if VV wants to write a page on "Fate-tells" and how to deal with me I would be more flattered than upset (because no one can ever TRULY out the way my playstyle catches scum, it is ever changing.)
VV your post assumes I am town though, yet you have not stated that in thread yet and your last stance was "FATES BEIN FATE HES NULL"
I did. He went from 'What the hell are you talking about?' to 'Oh, wait you're serious. Okay, I'll defend myself.' and it looks like it has evolved to 'You're stupid, I'll stop arguing now'. How many times have you seen this sort of evolution of tone, since you're Fate and all. And how many times have you ended up on scum/Town?Fate wrote:And VV did you even READ the first reactions podium made to me? He didn't even start defending himself until it was clear I wasn't back down a good 5 pages in. Up until then it was all "HERPZ" and "DERPZ" and calling YOU scum for shoddy reasoning.
SO TRANSPARENTLY TOWN MY ASS
Meh, it was pretty obvious that I haven't exactly read the thread much before my huge post. It makes sense for him to read me as scum. However after dismantling all the horrible points against him, of courseFate wrote:MoI showed your VV scum read disappeared. I question your apparent 180 flip onto a VV town read and buddying up to him calling his post sexy. IF you were town could he not be scum off the wagon trying to subtly defend you?
BUT NO. HES AUTO-TOWN CAUSE HE CALLED YOU TRANSPARENTLY TOWN, AMIRITE?
Okay, 'bro'. Let me give you a heads up. First, you jokingly entered the podium wagon. Understand that you think you're a funny dude, and that's just you blatantly wagoning. However, that shit just doesn't fly with me. When someone is being opportunistic on a horrible wagon, they deserve to be called out on it.Nacho wrote:Vasu. That's not right, man. Podium just called everyone on his wagon idiots, dawg. No significant ways himself defended he. Nope. Also, I disagree with your read on me... ITS WRONG BRO. YOU GOTTA LEARN TO READ THE REASONS DESPITE THE JOKING, MAN. READ THE REASONS. Also bro, give ya reasoning. You said I was a bully, you didn't say why. You said post #111, and didn't say why. It's all based on ignorance, man. You don't like this style of play, brosesame street. It's okay, though. You don't gotta hate on me like that.
MAGNA SOMEBODY GOTTA SAY A YES MAN DON'T BE PESSIMISTIC ALL THE DAMN TIME DON'T TRY TO BE A HERO NEITHER JUST HIDE BEHIND SOME PROTOWN DUDE AND DO YO THANG.
Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!
Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!
i'm not... i answered you the first time you asked, and i will answer you now. (Spaz's requests dont count ) But get ready for some walls... hey, you asked...VasudeVa wrote: Podium, why are you refusing to give out your reads of Fate/Me?
Fate wrote: Shifting argument is bad how?
Fate, surely even you can understand why i dont want to continue debating with someone that admits to pulling dirty tricks like it's no big deal.Fate wrote: Is it a dirty trick to make my originial point look valid?
Yes.
I’ll take your suggestion under advisement. I’m not one who generally believes in pre-emptive claiming for survivalist reasons.Fate wrote:MoI is town, so at least I won't die N1. MoI I'm under the impression that if you are a vanilla you should just claim D1 to make the scum weigh whether they should kill you or not.
Trust me on this one, I'll back you up if the VIs start hounding you for "anti-town" play, and point out that if you're alive longer THAT in and of itself is pro-town.
Do you really expect me to sheep? Really?Nacho wrote:MAGNA SOMEBODY GOTTA SAY A YES MAN DON'T BE PESSIMISTIC ALL THE DAMN TIME DON'T TRY TO BE A HERO NEITHER JUST HIDE BEHIND SOME PROTOWN DUDE AND DO YO THANG.
Hey, here’s a thought – why not elaborate on why Zin is public enemy number 1 but Zdenek and The Butterfly get off scot free for the same offense.Nacho wrote:Yeah, we gonna kill that Zinive dude when he comes back.
If he comes back.
Hell, ima drop the podium case entirely and SLAUGHTER HIS ASS if he comes back.
Yup.
To be clear – I don’t think your question to Fate regarding ‘What breadcrumbs’ is anything but a Null tell.Podium wrote:Im not clear what you mean here... can you clarify.
I don’t particularly find Seacore’s reaction and explanation very credible so you are not going to convince me that Implosion’s reasoning was bad.Podium wrote:But it wasn't pointless... it was the REASON why he took fate (and nacho's) posts seriously. Besides that, his paraphrase was in a different universe as to what seacore was implying. a universe that makes the comment look overly scummy.
Do you think his paraphrase was accurate and non-scummy?
The further no-thoughts would have been a very logical place to go if you really thought his post was originally scummy. But VV disappears from your ISO until he makes his return post.Podium wrote:What more is there to follow up with? He asked a few no-thought questions.
If i had asked some little no-brainers like that, would you be as worried about me and scumhunting? Because i can easily pull 4 or 5 of those out of thin air.
When the only suspicion you have articulated outside of Implosion was VV for having scumpoints I find it hard to believe you would ignore what constitutes one of your two scum reads.Podium wrote:+scumpoints doesn't mean top scum choice. it means +scumpoints.
tbh i haven't even read fate's posts regarding seacore.
The credibility of his reaction/explanation is a different issue than how that statement was or wasn't in context... which was implosions beef.MagnaofIllusion wrote: I don’t particularly find Seacore’s reaction and explanation very credible so you are not going to convince me that Implosion’s reasoning was bad.
I don't understand what you mean here.MagnaofIllusion wrote: The further no-thoughts would have been a very logical place to go if you really thought his post was originally scummy.
AGAIN... +scumpoints doesn't necessarily mean it is a top scum choice. It could take the person from null to null leaning scum, or from town to null leaning town, etc.. I had more than 2 scumreads at that point, btw.MagnaofIllusion wrote: When the only suspicion you have articulated outside of Implosion was VV for having scumpoints I find it hard to believe you would ignore what constitutes one of your two scum reads.
And did you just say you were not reading Fate’s post regarding Seacore? Why the hell not? Playing the ‘He’s annoying so I’ll just ignore his posts’ game is at best childish and at worst scumtastic.
If he summed up the thread exactly as you would have, then why the hell did you never mention a thing about Ghost or Nacho? And why does him summing up the thread as you would have makepodium123456 wrote: but 176 reallywasa superb post. nobody knows my alignment but me... but you summed up the thread almostverbatimas to how i would have (maybe even a little better). since i know that i am town, (cue fate/nacho entering with some ridiculous comment about me speaking like this) i obviously find it very towny of you.
It's a semantics difference about 'thought' or 'knew'... but since you think i am scum, logic would dictate that it's understood that i 'knew' for your case. The point is for you to come out with a 'dont u dare misrep me' attitude, like i had maliciously and purposefully turned your words around, was disingenuous and an over-reaction. A simple clarification would have sufficed... especially when it isn't exactly obvious what you thought was wrong.GhostWriter wrote: Post 146: The point is that you wrote it as "GW is saying that I thought Fate was joking".
It was clear to me that nacho was joking, because of the delivery.GhostWriter wrote: 176: but, as I have pointed out already, it is nothing more that Nacho's vote defined. If Nacho's is seen as RVS, Fate's was RVS. The corelation between the two is undeniable.
Quit getting so hung up on the fact that i put 'herp' and 'derp' in my post. The points i made in that post were valid, and substantive... don't act like they weren't.GhostWriter wrote: What the hell is good about him just saying "herp derp" until he has multiple pages in his iso making it look like he's posting well when most of it is pointless drivel and contentless babble that has no point?
That's not what happened at all.GhostWriter wrote: My 101 is not saying that at all. You tell me, where was my discussion going? In circles. I don't feel like restating my point and restating my point and restating my fucking point. Oh, just because he says "Nuh uh" to what I say, that makes it true? No.
Sigh... pay attention kids.GhostWriter wrote: The lack of any follow-up behind each of his "cases" seems to me as scum trying to point at people once said scum has been called out for lack of hunting, but not having anything to back it up with due to either knowing that they are aiming at townies who aren't guilty or scum partners they aren't willing to bus at the moment.
It's because i didn't understand who he was directing the first part to. I thought he was criticizing me, and saying my story 'wasn't convincing'... in the next part he said 'that doesn't sell me either'... so i thought all of that was connected and related to my argument.GhostWriter wrote: I sneaked a peak ahead, someone already answers your first problem with MoI's post.
The next thing, though... He wasn't even attacking you over it, he called it a nulltell, and you defended against that for what reason, exactly?
Restate the question, im not sure what you are asking.GhostWriter wrote: Post 204: You claim one is not excluxive of the other, yet how can you be confused by a post in the way Fate implied, and yet also be sure of something about the post, in the way Fate implied?
Fuck. You. Look at the timestamps on those posts, and what was said. People were hitting me with posts left and right, and then asking why i hadn't responded yet... as if i was ignoring them because they were valid points or something. Yesterday was NOT a typical scumday. And this isn't the only game i was attending to.GhostWriter wrote: 239: Okay, cut that out. "I'm too busy defending" is not a good defence. The best defense in mafia is a good offense. Meaning if you really wanted to prove how town you are, you'd attack someone you found scummy and prove why that is, instead of spending time split 50/50 between defending and complaining about having to defend.