Mostly Mountainous (Game over)

[evilpacman18]

It's insulting that you think I'm stupid enough to make it that obvious that I'm more informed than everyone else in this game. Everything I'm saying is common sense. ESPECIALLY the NK immune part.

[flinter]

I don't want to insult you.

But it isn't making sense to me

[evilpacman18]

Lol you fell for AtE. Don't do that.

[flinter]

Now you have me confused. What does AtE mean?

[evilpacman18]

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... to_emotion

[Fate]

FLINTER, PACMAN, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND VOTE SNAKE.

[evilpacman18]

Did you already forget you're sheeping me on that Snake vote?

[Fate]

Just because you voted him first doesn't mean anything. More people think I'm town than you and I SURE AS HELL don't like that 4scum comment OR you asking me to respond to your fishing.

All Ill say is this: I don't need a god role to catch scum. Now vote Snake, and believe in Fate

[Lateralus22]

Yeah, my catch up is gonna have to wait until tomorrow. Can I have a concise version of Pacman's and snake's thoughts besides what's mentioned below?

All I see from these 2 pages is stuff about snake's hammer, and some god role stuff.

[Fate]

You don't have to catchup:

TLDR Version is VOTE SNAKE GET A FREE TOWN WIN FOR CHRISTMAS.

[flinter]

FLINTER, PACMAN, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND VOTE SNAKE.

look, I know you think it's your playstyle, but could you calm down a little?

and I don't believe you. I'm going to reread though, because you were right often. But I would really hate it if we lost the game here because I couldn't get people to lynch pacman, if he is scum. It makes so much sense that he's scum that I can't believe that it isn't him.

[Fate]

Playstyle or not, are you better than me? Ask yourself honestly.

I was right about Guderian, you were WRONG. I was also right about you being town when people tried to push your lynch.

Now, vote Snake.

[bouncy.bouncy]

4 to lynch

SnakePlissken (3) evilpacman18 Fate vezokpiraka
evilpacman18 (2) SnakePlissken flinter

Not voting (1) Lateralus22

[flinter]

Playstyle or not, are you better than me? Ask yourself honestly.

I was right about Guderian, you were WRONG. I was also right about you being town when people tried to push your lynch.

Now, vote Snake.

No, I'm not better. I'll try to be, but I'm not yet as good as you. However, Pacman's defence seems scummy to me, his start into the game, his persistence to convince us he's town. While you were right more often, you were wrong sometimes too. And I'm really not seeing that last action of Snake as really scummy. His first hammer was, and he lurked a little too much, but I don't know if I should hammer based on that when I think that Pacman is the scum we are looking for.

But, as promised, I'll reread the game and see if I can convince myself of Snake-scum. Would you do the same for me, but then on Pacman? We have some time anyway, as Lat has to read into the game.

[flinter]

ok, Lat, I'll hammer when you are ready. I reread Day 1, and while Snake wasn't there most of the time and his hammer was scummy, Pacman avoided the parama case for a long time, but got it going with his second vote (which was the fifth on Pacman), the unvote didn't make sense, but who knows, Pacman might be the nice guy who unvotes when it's someone's birthday.

unvote, vote Parama

OK Fate, you better be right about this!

Esspecially the last part makes me think he already knows that Fate was right, but that the lynch couldn't be avoided. Seen that he had avoided it till his last post (where he still asked for a decent case to be made) and tunneled on Chesskid, this hammer was quite surprising.

What is surprising is that this means (and the same goes for Pacman-scum), that there were 2 scum bussing Parama. Does that happen more often in your games, Fate?

[evilpacman18]

Now you got suckered into accepting his AtE. Don't ever let anyone convince you're stupid for disagreeing with them. But still vote snake.

[SnakePlissken]

I'm bored and it's nearly Christmas so I'll give you this present one and all.

unvote, vote Snake Plissken

[Fate]

LOL.



LOL

[Fate]

HEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[bouncy.bouncy]

4 to lynch

SnakePlissken (4) evilpacman18 Fate vezokpiraka SnakePlissken

evilpacman18 (1) flinter

Not voting (1) Lateralus22

SnakePlissken is lynched!
He was a

Mafia Goon

.

[Fate]

BUT ITS NOT NIGHT TIME?????

LE GASP!

[Lateralus22]

goddamnit. Well it was fun playing with Fate for like, five minutes. =p

[Fate]

<3

[bouncy.bouncy]

GAME OVER

evilpacman18 was a

Vanilla Townie

flinter

Reckamonic

was a

Vanilla Townie

Lateralus22

Antihero

was a

Vanilla Townie

vezokpiraka, was a

Vanilla Townie

Fate was a

Town Mole

:

The following is the game thread: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =3&t=15655

Alignment: TOWN.

You win when only Town-aligned players are alive

and

you are alive.

Role: MOLE.

You have full viewing and posting rights for the Mafia Quicktopic. However, you will never have power over the factional kill or rolecop abilities, because you are not Mafia-aligned.

The Goons are

Parama

,

SnakePlissken

, and

Zachrulez

.
The Mafia Goon role PM is

Alignment: MAFIA.

You win when only Mafia-aligned players are alive

or

the Town Power Role is dead.

Role: GOON.

You have no special abilities. You may communicate with [Goon name], [Goon name], and Fate at any time via PM or the Quicktopic I have made.

(The three names listed are in alphabetical order.)

IN OTHER WORDS, THE MAFIA SHOULD THINK YOU ARE A GOON, AT LEAST UNTIL YOU BETRAY THEM.

Post Restriction:

In the game thread, you are NOT allowed to fakeclaim or imply a fakeclaim, unless the fakeclaim is Vanilla Townie.

TOWN WIN

[bouncy.bouncy]

Game notes:

I think this game was won by a reckless town that ended up being right enough times, especially when following a mole who was quite reckless himself, and when unimpeded by scum.

I say reckless because of the lack of consideration for not lynching. One thing in the rules that many of you missed was that the power role could not be bulletproof. Lynchproof, possibly, but I really expected everybody to have the mindset that lynching or forcing a claim of the PR was a guaranteed Town loss. But you went ahead and lynched one person after another.

And the above is part of why Fate was able to drive scum lynches without pulling suspicion from scum. You all lynched people so recklessly that (given that scum were being lynched) the Mafia never got to the point where they had rolecopped and killed the entire Town and realized there could be (was) a mole among scum.

This game was designed with the main scum tactic being to slow down the Town and use the advantage of time given to them. For Town, it is a race against the clock to lynch scum, as scum (apparently) get 2 chances to end the game every night. And yes, once the entire town had been rolecopped/killed, scum should have been able to find a mole.

The Town and the mole did not play at the Mafia's ideal pace, and I did not see Mafia trying to persuade the Town to play slower--and ideally choose to no-lynch. The fact that scum were one night away from discovering the presence of a mole (and clearly then Fate would have been NKed unless Snake got lynched on the last day) shows how close scum were to a win even given Town's early accuracy on lynches.

I also will apologize for my mistakes in vote counts and formatting (all of which I hope I caught during the game) and thank you all for playing given the confines of a BaM ruleset game. Special thanks to Lateralus22 who replaced in at endgame.