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Vote: Ender
The more and more I think about this, the better I feel about this vote. If the lynch is coming down to him and Darla, I would definately prefer him to be lynched. Darla at least makes points and adds to the discussion - for that reason alone she's less suspicious than ender to me. DLG brings up a good point with her lack of commitment, and I am still very suspicious of her, but right now I feel like ender is the better choice overall.
Also, I'm starting to get a little bit suspicious about Bub. His last post really bothered me, but I couldn't quite figure out why. His argument against Darla seemed for the most part quoted out of context.
Bub Bidderskins wrote:Ender, wtf? Vote, unvote, vote. You shouldn't be scared to run somebody up if you think they're scum, but I get what you were saying with your unvote. I do not like your re-vote, however. That "happy now?" sounded like you just re-voted because somebody asked you to.
FOS: ender
Bub keeps talking about how if you're town you'll vote aggressively; but why then did he carry out a vote for everyone else he was suspicious of, but not for ender? Also, immediately after this post (within one minute) he made another post...
Bub Bidderskins wrote:Even though ender looks scummy, Darla looks like scum.
unvote; vote DarlaBlueEyes
That's two back-to-back mini-wagons that she said "oh, he looks scummy, but I'm going to reserve my vote" that kind of hesitancy with her vote indicates scum to me. A townie wouldn't be afraid to vote for somebody he or she thinks is scum. Essentially, she said she approved of the wagons, but didn't get on them.
This might only be a small grievance, but it bothers me how quick he was to switch the attention from ender to darla. This is something I haven't been able to shake all game, and is another reason why I'm voting for ender. If ender does turn out to be town, then I will feel a lot better about Bub. Bub is a strong player in this game, and arguably I would say his posts have some of the biggest impact in swaying people's opinions (so far anyways). It would be a huge mistake for us as a town to wait around to figure out if he's town or scum. Some other things that worried me:
Bub Bidderskins wrote:@ender: What was it about rekirtS' post that made you want to revote Final Fires?
This is kind of a weak question from the start, but ender also gave a weak answer:
ender241 wrote:Basically i really don't know
in my last game (which i have recently been killed as doc which was a newbie game) i did it alot i should really stick to my votes...
And Bub hasn't mentioned it since. Now contrast this to his rebuke for Darla's weak answer to his question (Post 102). Overall I just feel like this whole game bub has been trying to (subtly) take the attention off of ender and put it on darla.
Let me make this clear: I don't have a problem that Bub is making a case against Darla. What bothers me is that it almost seems like his case is more to create a distraction away from Ender. I think that Bub is a very, very smart player that we shouldn't let go under our radar. I'm not proposing that we lynch him tonight; if he is town he could be a powerful asset to us. Bub's alignment is also an important reason why I'm voting for ender; I think ender's alignment will tell us a lot about bob's intentions. If darla does turn out to be scum, that would tell us a lot too. But if darla is innocent, it would be easy to chalk off bub's argument's as an innocent mistake. Ender's death, either way, will make me feel a lot better about my read on bub.
Nobody should be taking my points on Bub very seriously right now - I know I shouldn't be connecting dots before someone has died, but once I saw it it's been hard to not notice. Normally I would wait to bring this up on day 2, but I have a feeling I won't make it through the night. It's just an observation so that if I'm not here on day 2, you guys can still discuss it. Right now it's really not worth talking about much more, because this is a lot of speculation, but tommorow it could be critical.
MoreWhisky wrote:
I really dont like this post you seem to be all over that place finding someone to pin the scum tag on. I also dont like how u ask someone a question about there actions on other players, normally this is sort of ok but here im sure this is another tactic to deflect the chat from you.
And whats all this phone business? we all have stuff to do. have some more time on the phone
vote Darla
This post bothers me a lot. Whiskey how has she "pinned the scum tag" on anybody? You're essentially arguing that, by her asking questions, she's scrambling to find scum. Isn't that what everybody is doing? Everybody has made accusations, and everybody has been questioning each other's behavior since the second page. Also, what question did she ask that bothered you?
FoS: Morewhisky
It seems hypocritical that you're argument against her is that you "don't like how [she] ask
someone a question about there actions as a player", and then go on to question her about why she's playing from her phone - which so far seems like the only unreasonable question that has been asked.
TL;DR - I think Ender's death is the best for several reasons:
1) His just generally scummy behavior (see my previous posts)
2) He still hasn't even attempted to make a defense for himself
3) I think his death will give us the most insight towards other players - especially bub and less so morewhiskey (as well as several others)
I think bub is a little suspicious, but not day one lynching suspicious. I feel like he's spent a lot of energy keeping the discussion on darla and away from ender. If ender turns out to be innocent (or if darla is scum) I'll trust bub, but if he's evil Bub will be at the top of my list.
I think Whiskey's reason for voting for darla is completely ridiculous, and makes me even more suspicious of him.