@Stels
I'm not really sure what you are referring to above with the, "Ok, NM, he just did what I said." thing.
@Mute
There's still a week left to simply lynch the "most detrimental player" in the game. We can all agree that either asano or veridis has provided little to no content for the thread and either of them would be a legitimate target for a last minute choice, but I don't think either of them are "the most detrimental". Certainly someone we can identify as likely scum would be better, and hopefully a week will be an adequate amount of time to find that person.
You still didn't answer my question about what has occurred that has taken me down from 100% scum to "less scum than a lurker." Certainly I
should
be a better target than either of them, unless something has changed.
Quick and dirty analysis of Ty
I'm going to try and avoid talking about his case against me as much as a I can, as I've already posted my defense against it. Unfortunately, a fair amount of the content he has provided in the game is that case against me, so it's hard to avoid it.
The first thing that jumped out to me was in ISO #5, point 4). He accuses me of wagon hopping and states the following:
Ty in ISO #5 wrote:By ISO #22, Workdawg is once again voting Mute, apparently the wagon for my lynch wasn’t going well-enough for Workdawg. To me, there’s a clear distinction on how you’ve been voting.
Instead of trying to hunt for scum, you’re trying to find the easiest way to get someone lynched. This is playing for the win condition of the scum, not the town.
Reading through his ISO, it looks like he's been doing the same thing. He was 3rd onto my wagon, and I don't necessarily blame him for that. I think I was the obvious target for a wagon at that point. But the reason for hopping on my wagon is what concerns me. Did he really feel that I was scum, or did he simply see me as a soft target? Both Nacho and Stels had expressed that they thought my play was just terrible newb town, but he didn't feel the same. I obviously can't comment on why he got on my case, but I can speculate.
I feel like he probably targeted me because I looked like an easy mislynch rather than an extra scummy player. He seemed to have a much bigger issue with Nacho than he did with me at the time, but he still came after me.
I think his statement holds more scumminess now though. He voted for Stels when all the heat was already on. He was only 2nd to vote, but it certainly seemed like it was warming up.
Up until Ty hopped on me, he hadn't yet voted for anyone. Now, in his exit post, he casts a vote for someone whom he "has mixed feeling about". He has said before that he doesn't feel the need to use his vote to apply pressure, but then what is he doing right now? He didn't build anything even close to resembling a case against Stels, he simply suggested that one of the experienced players is probably scum. With the typo from Drench saying Nacho is being replaced, the only other experienced player to vote for would have been Stels. It seems wholely contradictory to his play style before.
I feel like if his exit post was genuine, he would have stuck to his playstyle and attempted to build a case against the player he felt was most scummy, instead of completely switching it up and casting what can only be described as a "pressure vote." Did he see that my profiles went over so well that he thought he'd try the same thing to get heat off his replacement?
The other thing that I noticed is that he really didn't do a very good job of defending himself against the initial concerns with his posts.
In ISO #4 he attempts to address the issues of; long posts, too much of a teacher, and tunneling nacho. An analysis of his defense for each follows:
1) Long Posts
He says, generally... Sorry. I don't understand how this is a scum tell. Please explain how long posts would be used to lurk.
He doesn't even really defend himself here. He just kind of dodges this, IMO. It was explained that his long posts were easier to hide misinformation in and that longer posts would look less like lurking than short quips. The argument at that point was that his posts were just filled with general advice and not anything directly useful to the game. I've already said that I don't feel like this was really scummy anymore, but he didn't bother to address it when it was an issue.
2) Being a Teacher
He'd feel bad about not teaching as an SE.
This is reasonable, but again, it doesn't really defend his actions from the issues at the time. It's easy to say that he was teaching, but for the reasons outlined above, it didn't seem like he was doing it in the best interests of the town. Again, he doesn't really address the issue. Just kind of dodges it.
3) Tunneling Nacho
This one I don't really have any issues with. Interestingly, it's also "the most reasonable response" he saw to why he was voted for.
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Sorry if this post seems a bit disconnected. I typed up half of it earlier today and finished off the last part just now.
PEdit @Mute
Nacho and Veridis were prodded, not being replaced... Drench typoed and corrected this yesterday.
