LlamaFluff #602 wrote:@Everyone
- If you are not voting for one of Thad, Amrun (PI) or moth (jmj) in your next post, explain in depth why all three are beyond a doubt town. This is the point in the game where stuff needs to happen, we have three big wagons and absolutely zero reason for people not to be on one them.
Have to agree. Time to make up my mind.
I already covered PoisonIvy/Amrun in my last post. I think she is town, I won't be supporting that wagon.
As for jmj3000/mothrax, since we just got a replacement, I'd prefer to give him a chance. Also, I searched for jmj's recent posts, and found out he has really not been active on the site. He replaced into another game a while back, and in his third post he requested replacement, since he could not handle two games at once. That is when his flaking in this game began. Contrary to what ThAdmiral said in
#588, I don't find he has been very active on other forums either, and when it comes to mafia games, the issue is not having time to post but having time to read. The evidence suggests that whatever troubles he was referring to were real, and him actually replacing out invalidates the accusation that he was scum because of stalling. The slot could be scum despite him replacing out, but not because of it.
DavidParker #569 wrote:jmj3000 wrote:Ok, I have gotten too far behind in this game. I have been trying to catch up, but each time I get 1 step forward, I fall two steps back.
Mod: Please replace me, as me being so far behind is going to hurt the fun of everyone else in the game.
Can we just lynch this slot before a replacement comes in and everyone forgets how scummy JMJ was?? A replacement at this point will be a fresh start more or less and I'm not happy with that.
I'm not happy with this. When jmj3000 replaced out, it should've been obvious that he was genuinely flaking instead of stalling for time, and since that was pretty much all DavidParker found him scummy for, I don't like him continuing to push a case that just went down the drain. All that is left to suspect jmj3000 for is that he made a random vote despite having suspects. I find that slightly suspect, but really not lynch worthy.
That leaves ThAdmiral. I did an ISO read of him, and actually got a scummy feeling from him. On my first read I thought it was really odd how Nachomamma8 called him scum with no explanation, and suddenly people agreed with him. I think I get it now. In addition to what others have said, I find him and Furcolow flip flopping on each other to be most curious, particularly how they both claimed the other was town due to meta.
I looked through some of their games, the ones ThAdmiral posted and more. ThAdmiral was scum and Furcolow was town in two games,
The Lies of Locke Lamora and
Rivertown Mafia. In one of them Furcolow was fooled by ThAdmiral, in the other he was not, so I'm really not putting much stock in Furcolow's claim of being able to read him. Instead, I think they might have been distancing. They both voted the other, and quickly unvoted for meta reasons.
For the record, my attempt of getting a meta read of ThAdmiral by looking at his past games was a waste of time. Well, almost. I did come across some things worthy of note.
Furcolow #209 in Rivertown Mafia wrote:ive done that on my alt
i dont do that on this
this is my VI account
get over it
Furcolow, you
are
a village idiot. You
know
you are a village idiot. You have
admitted
that you are a village idiot. It is also because you are a village idiot that you are still alive, anyone else would've been lynched for the things you've said and done today. So you can drop the act of being all hurt, accusing me and InflatablePie of ad hominem for calling you that.
Other things I found were an example of Furcolow using a reaction test as town, in Rivertown Mafia, where he false claimed miller as explained
here. Apparently he does do reaction tests as town too. Oh, and I chanced upon a rather hilarious anti-Furcolow tirade by boberz in Ohne Mafia
here. Not very relevant to this game, but I was getting the same scummy feeling reading Furcolow in Ohne Mafia as here.
Furcolow #570 wrote:This just is ADMISSION you're trying to get mislynches, and that you are going to bandwagon.
I am ever-so-more suspicious of you, Feysal, but I'm happy with where my vote is right now. I could easily get on the biggest bandwagon of ThAdmiral. I don't believe I'm going to do that.
It is recognition of the fact that you're not getting lynched today, and so I should look for scum elsewhere, fool. I'm not of any use to the town if I tunnel on you.
Furcolow #573 wrote:Feysal in his #560 defends Amrun/PI's play, expect to see a hop onto the ThAdmiral wagon from him. Very possible that he is buddying as scum here.
Or I could just be confident in my townread on her. And I won't be scared out of voting ThAdmiral by you. I think that he is the most likely wagon to be scum, and in fact your partner. There have been so many times ThAdmiral has made excuses for you this game.
Vote: ThAdmiral