Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[LlamaFluff]

@People saying - "Test gov ability" - You do realize that most govenor abilities end the day with no lynch right? Also, not claiming if I am really govenor or not, I do like pulling this stuff to get reactions out of people when I have another role.

Basically, if you are voting amrum over the govenor thing, you should be fully prepared to see a no lynch or him lynched.

[Amrun]

People promoting no lynch are making me suspicious, especially ThAd, since he is the alternative. "Let me live one more night," he seems to be saying.

At this point, I no longer care. I'll continue to play and share my suspicions as long as I am alive, but I've done what I can do for town as of now.

If you kill me, at least we got some sort of flip and I will be vindicated by my role reveal anyway. Do what you must, all.

[Sathoris]

Of the two wagon's I mistrust Amrun the most. ThAd seems to eager to avoid a lynch on himself, as would anybody, but it doesn't seem toodesperate. Amrun felt he had to claim to get not lynched and messed it up a bit. The claim appears manufactured to me, going from memory to contruct a role only to later remember the inaccuracies. I'd look at my role PM again before I'd fully claim.

VOTE:

Amrun

[LimMePls]

852 disappoints me a lot Sathoris. Are you scum?

[Amrun]

Sathoris: How does it seem manufactured? That doesn't make sense with anything else you said. If it was manufactured, I would ... You know what, never mind. It's pointless.

Death to all scumlurkers.

[Sathoris]

852 disappoints me a lot Sathoris. Are you scum?

No, just getting back from being sick and getting a vote in on what I feel now before I do a more in depth read to catch up.

[Artem]

So, I think Amrun's claim is the current focal point of Day 1 and the reactions after the claim are probably the most insightful.

About the claim itself:

The most critical point is that a silencer seems to useless for town. Scummy players should be lynched, not silenced. So, if Amrun is town (which, after Feysal's meta investigation into PI's game on another site and bvo's hammer gambit, I'm inclined to believe she is), and there is no bastard modding, what is the point of a town silencer? Roles like Arsonist and Firefighter tend to come together, so there must be a role that a town-silencer is supposed to counter, and I think that role must be a joker. Think about it: lynching a joker is bad because you waste a lynch and the joker wins; leaving the joker alive is bad because they are not interested in scumhunting and will randomly throw their votes around, creating unnecessary chaos. What's the proper play then? Silence the joker. And who's been a completely useless player, whom everybody considers to be town, yet who semi-randomly flails his vote around and gets on everybody nerves? Hint: his name begins with the letter F. <.<

Clarifications about the claim:

I read up on McCarthy on Wikipedia and what I got out of it was: he was paranoid about Soviet spies in the U.S., but due to his inability to substantiate / prove his spy accusations, he was silenced by the Senate. So,
1. Amrun, can you double-check that it's you doing the silencing, and not you getting silenced?
2. @Everybody who's claiming that McCarthy was a "warmonger": can you please link to where you're getting that from, because I don't necessarily associate spy paranoia with a desire for war.

Reactions to the claim:

DP: Critical assessment of Amrun's claim and wavering about it's truthfulness / falsehood. Since a townie would have no inside information, this would be an expected reaction, so I believe DP is town. Scum, on the other hand, would know that Amrun is town and since a silencer is not a particularly dangerous (for scum) role, a mislynch would be more beneficial than spending a night kill on Amrun, so they would be interested in pushing for the mislynch at all costs. This brings us to:

Moth: Adamant about the McCarthy role being scum, but draws conclusions mostly from personal education, which gives me a null read.

Smargaret: I think this has been pointed out before. Smarg has a knack for flinging suspicion towards popular targets but not voting them herself. #739 is exactly that and is a major scumtell, because if Amrun is lynched and flips town, smarg was never on the wagon.

Scott: Also adamant about McCarthy role being scum, however what strikes me most is #758, where he's painting something a scumslip. Scum tend to look for convenient things to call scumslips, so they can make their accusations stick better.

Lowell:

Empking

Lowell just needs to die before the endgame, but not necessarily today. (Nothing personal, Lowell, but remember that game where the doc fakeclaimed a PGO? Yea, I still blame the town loss on your playstyle.) Null read.

Gonnano: Feeds off the same "US vs. Soviets" misrep, even though Amrun has repeatedly stated that she never claimed the game to be US vs. Soviets (her predecessor, PI, speculated about it, but I believe Feysal covered it pretty well in #762). Many have pointed out the opportunistic nature of gonnano's votes and the face-sitting attitude. Not much more to say. Scum read.

I still dislike ThAd's wagon, but I think the new competing wagon to his should be one of {Smarg, Scott, Gonnano}. Since DP is getting the ball rolling on gonnano, and out of the three gonnano had the most players suspicious of him, I think his wagon would be the best competition.

Vote: gonnano

Anybody else want to hike up gonnano before the deadline with us?

[smargaret]

Too late; I think Sathoris may have decided to test the governor claim.

[Artem]

face-sitting

Uh.... fence-sitting. <.<

[Artem]

Too late; I think Sathoris may have decided to test the governor claim.

Don't understand this post. Amrun is at L-4 as far as I can tell.

[smargaret]

And now that I've actually read your wall, I got off the Amrun wagon because I believed Llama and wanted to see a flip. If I were to only vote for/direct questions to one person, you'd say I was tunneling, and I was ready and willing to lynch Amrun before Llama said that about the governor thing.

[LimMePls]

Too late; I think Sathoris may have decided to test the governor claim.

Not even close. Amrun had a lot of unvoters. Am I missing something?

[smargaret]

Huh, more people unvoted than I thought.

[LlamaFluff]

unvote
Vote gonnao

I can do this very willingly

[ThAdmiral]

@People saying - "Test gov ability" - You do realize that most govenor abilities end the day with no lynch right? Also, not claiming if I am really govenor or not, I do like pulling this stuff to get reactions out of people when I have another role.

Basically, if you are voting amrum over the govenor thing, you should be fully prepared to see a no lynch or him lynched.

So basically you are lying scum, right? If anyone needs a bullet tonight it's you.

For everyone who didn't notice:

Amrum has not been governered, and llama is to be killed asap. Put votes back on amrum.

[Sotty7]

Day I, Vote Count XIX

Amrun - 9 -

XScorpion, Beasts of the Sea, Stephoscope, ThAdmiral, mothrax, Scott Brosius, Lowell, DavidParker, Sathoris

ThAdmiral - 8 -

Nachomamma8, EGL, LynchMePls, GhostWriter, Amrun, Feysal, bvoigt, smargaret

mothrax - 2 -

gonnano, RedCoyote

gonnano - 2-

Artem, LlamaFluff

EGL - 1 -

Furcolow

Not Voting - 2 -

Fuzzyman, InflatablePie

With twenty-four of you alive thirteen votes will lynch. The day will end on Sunday February 20th at 9am GMT.

Fuzzyman is being replaced

[LlamaFluff]

@People saying - "Test gov ability" - You do realize that most govenor abilities end the day with no lynch right? Also, not claiming if I am really govenor or not, I do like pulling this stuff to get reactions out of people when I have another role.

Basically, if you are voting amrum over the govenor thing, you should be fully prepared to see a no lynch or him lynched.

So basically you are lying scum, right? If anyone needs a bullet tonight it's you.

Cute.

[ThAdmiral]

@ llama: Seriously, you're the one who was too busy to post content because of class work but still had time to come in and complain that their hadn't been a flip yet, then direct everyone to vote for either me, amrum or jmj, and then when it looked like someone

was

going to flip you apparently "governered" him? And you also have the temerity to try and direct a vigkill on gonnano as well?!

You actually have to die.

vote: llama

[ThAdmiral]

unvote, vote: llama

[LlamaFluff]

@ llama: Seriously, you're the one who was too busy to post content because of class work but still had time to come in and complain that their hadn't been a flip yet, then direct everyone to vote for either me, amrum or jmj, and then when it looked like someone

was

going to flip you apparently "governered" him? And you also have the temerity to try and direct a vigkill on gonnano as well?!

Yeah, I defended someone im pretty sure is town and reaction fished in one move when my prefered lynches fell thorough. Yes I am trying to direct the vig kill to scum too, and now seeing if I can get him lynched instead.

[ThAdmiral]

Why would you derail the wagon though? She's got a scum-sounding role and a scum-sounding ability. Even if amrum does survive today she is set up for an easy lynch later down the track. It's just terrible play and completely contradicts your earlier assertion that this game needs a flip.
And how are you SO sure amrum is town in spite of everything? I don't buy it.

You've been flying under the radar and telling everyone else what to do for too long. It's time you copped some heat.

[RedCoyote]

Artem is on target about McCarthy. Really guys, get off Amrun, please. Especially with Llama's potential power, I really don't want to risk wasting our lynch here.

[RedCoyote]

Wait, Llama, you have a Vig kill as well? Are you a JOAT of some sort?

[LlamaFluff]

Wait, Llama, you have a Vig kill as well? Are you a JOAT of some sort?

I dont have multiple abilities. Also I already said (or at least heavily implied) that the govenor ability was a reaction fish that got overshadowed by another reaction fish.

[smargaret]

In that case,

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Amrun