Mini 1122: Mafia.Exe Game Over

[bgg1996]

What is the support against against Xine? Or at least, where can I find it?



@Nathanael; That's too bad, you losing faith in me. But, what about the post seemed scummy? It was the real reason.
Would you tell the real reason or make one up as mafia?
Would you tell the real reason or make one up as town?
It seems to all be very WIFOMy, but I don't see what it could be that gave off a scumsignal.

[My Milked Eek]

Redacted is TBM?

Been some time

Not much happened since my last post, except for greyice spouting suspicions about me. I don't mind you or anyone having suspicions about me, but I do not think you have more on me than lurking aside from a lurking read, which is a null-tell.

Kind of a reactive post, but I'm a bit too tired from the internship, going to get some posts in by tomorrow.

[Hiraki]

What is the support against against Xine? Or at least, where can I find it.

His vote on Neruz is pretty awful, especially his reasoning.

Not to mention, his lack of activity after that vote isn't too extraordinary either. But that's a small tell, the big emphasis is that vote.

[Neruz]

I do believe you are scum.

And i don't believe that.

What is the support against against Xine? Or at least, where can I find it.

His vote on Neruz is pretty awful, especially his reasoning.

Not to mention, his lack of activity after that vote isn't too extraordinary either. But that's a small tell, the big emphasis is that vote.

Xine's a 'she'

[bgg1996]

What was bad about that?
I consider admitting willingness to vote for somebody that you know is town to be very scummy. I just thought that you were being sarcastic about that.

[Hiraki]

New sig!

[Exe]

So Surprise_Carcinogen hasn't picked up his prod either...I guess that's 3 replacements needed...fml...

[Xine]

Hiraki, I like your new sig.
I also like being mistaken for a "he" (he he he).

My vote on Neruz makes sense to me. A player says this:

At this point i would actually lynch you

even if i had incontrovertible proo

f that you were town, just so i don't have to read another one of your mind-numbingly stupid posts.

I sincerely hope that you are kidding. Please, let you be kidding. Please tell me you are kidding.

I am not kidding,

i believe that reading your posts may actually be causing me permanent brain damage.

and it seems like a pretty radical contradiction considering his earlier stance:

i

do

care if you're afraid that the town will do somethin suboptimal. Lynching a town player is

bad

, it is to be avoided, because the town does not win by lynching the town.

Are you playing to win Xine? Because if you are, you're playing for a scum win.

I guess that's a matter of opinion. a long day one is surly optimal for town. but I do like the way you think, hey everyone, let's go with Neruz's plan and lynch scum!

It's a good plan. I find it to be most effective.

[Hiraki]

Xine. Have you ever heard of sarcasm?

Let's get this down to the line here. Nexus, unless he actually was where I'd be totally surprised and annoyed, is just saying that because he hates your posts. If the mod did confirm that you were town, do you honestly believe that Nexus would still try to lynch you? Hell, would anyone?

[Neruz]

I'd probably have to take it to a coinflip if the mod confirmed bgg as town.

[Llamarble]

Isn't the deadline in like 9 hours?
If we have until replacements arrive then I'm going back to bgg. He's both the most likely player to be scum and the one who hurts us least if we lynch him and he flips town (particularly accounting for the VT claim). His recent behavior has me way more convinced than I was earlier; it was at least somewhat hard to tell if he was faking or not then. Now he's confirmed for us that he was. Saying he's all "excited to be actively scumhunting now" just feels so much more like trying to look town than like actually playing to the town wincondition. His scumhunting so far consists of attacking Neruz for "being willing to vote someone he knows to be town," which obviously isn't the game situation. His voting record is the horrible L-2 quicklynch seeking vote on Xine which he followed up by wifomavalancheing when called out for it. That and voting Neruz, whose wagon looks pretty scummy to me.

[Neruz]

Dunno how our esteemed moderator is going to handle the deadline, but it does look a bit like we're going to hit a no lynch.

I also don't think it's even remotely coincidental that Nathanael, Xine and bgg are all on my wagon.

[Xine]

hmmm

Mod: What is going on with the deadline?

honestly I had the impression it was being extended.

I also don't think it's even remotely coincidental that Nathanael, Xine and bgg are all on my wagon.

what exactly are you trying to say here?

[Exe]

I addressed the deadline...is anyone reading my posts?

The day will not end until after people have been replaced. And then there will be some time for the replacements to post.

God, I hate people having to leave games...I put a 2 week deadline so that it wouldn't slow down like this...

You guys

could

lynch and we wouldn't have to worry about the deadline. Hah, just kidding... xD

[Llamarble]

Unvote; Vote bgg

[Hiraki]

XINE.

WHY ARE YOU NOT DEFENDING.

[Exe]

Good news everyone!
Krazy replaces Greedling.
1 down...2 more to go...

Vote Count #11

Day 1

Xine

(4): Krazy, GreyICE, Hiraki, Neruz,

Neruz

(4):Ant_to_the_max, Nathanael, Xine, bgg1996,

bgg1996

(2): Surprise_Carcinogen, Llamarble,

Nathanael

(1): DeathRowKitty,

DeathRowKitty

(1): My Milked Eek,

Surprise_Carcinogen

(0):

Llamarble

(0):

GreyICE

(0):

[Redacted]

(0):

My Milked Eek

(0):

Krazy

(0):

Ant_to_the_max

(0):

Hiraki

(0):

No Lynch

(0):

Not Voting

: [Redacted],

With

13

alive it takes

7

to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1 is PENDING

[bgg1996]

If anybody actually believed that the reason that I voted for Neruz because of that stupid remark he made, then they must be so bad at reading comprehension, they must not even be able to read/understand this very post.

[bgg1996]

Either that or they are too stupid to remember the difference between me and Xine.

[DeathRowKitty]

Prod-dodge for now. Will get caught up when I'm running on slightly more sleep.

[Krazy]

Hello all

Unvote

for now until I get a chance to read the thread

[Krazy]

I'm not too far from a vote but let's see if there's some questions and observations I'd like to make first. Please bear with me here, some of these may have been addressed elsewhere, but even if they have they might do well to be addressed again:

DRK, you have said:

Let's not lynch bgg today. I think he's town. Claiming VT early is stupid, not scummy.

Is this still your opinion of bgg and his actions?

Xine:

I know this was a while ago (page 2 or so), but you have said:

Actually it does, I see him(?) [redacted] as the most obv town player so far.

Why did you at that point in the game see [redacted] as the "most obv town player"?

I would also like to comment on the reaction to Xine's vote for Neruz. Xine said:

Neruz has declared willingness to lynch someone he believes to be town to remove an annoying player.

In this quote, Neruz does not actually imply or suggest that Neruz has said he believes bgg to be town; he only confirms what Neruz has actually said, which is that Neruz would be willing to lynch bgg even if he had "proof" he was town.

It seems like some of the votes for Xine are based on his post here and the belief that he said that Neruz thought bgg was innocent. Is that correct?

P.S. the site is being a bit wonky so sorry if there is a double post.

[Neruz]

I also don't think it's even remotely coincidental that Nathanael, Xine and bgg are all on my wagon.

what exactly are you trying to say here?

I'm trying to say that i am extremely sure at least one of, and possibly two of the three i mentioned are scum.

[Krazy]

Llamarble, I'm having a really hard time following your logic on Neruz.

You first say:

Neruz thinking "Is bgg softclaiming??" when bgg has already hardclaimed seems very odd to me as well.

And then later say:

I think Xine and Neruz are town.

And in your next post say:

I am too tired right now to figure out if Neruz is townflailing or scumflailing.

And then in your next post with content you say:

Unfortunately I ran into the sleep barrier again. But here are my reads so far:
Town:
Me
DRK
GreyICE
Neruz

And then finally settle on:

And let's not lynch Neruz because he's town, okay?

So...

-I do not understand why you finally came down on being so certain that Neruz is town.
-I do not understand why you keep oscillating between not understanding what Neruz is doing and then in literally your next post declare him town, not once but twice.

If you still believe Neruz is town, as you seem to have settled on, can you maybe explain where this certainty came from?

[Krazy]

@GreyIce

Almost from the first few pages you have said:

I'm holding Neruz almost entirely unlikely to be scum

and I believe in your most recent list you have said:

Neruz (Best town here, I think he's dead on)

Can you refresh me on why you have been so certain, through the entire day, that Neruz is not only town, but the best town?