Mafia 126 - Lovers Mafia! [Game Over]
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Nero Cain Survivor
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el oh elOf all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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xRECKONERx GD is my Best Man
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Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
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Hedging is scummy. Say what you mean and mean what you say, because I'm not getting the bolding stuff.Tragedy wrote:
I see something different in my point of view.Ashblade wrote:If you want a better explanation (I'm sure the reasoning is in that post even if it is subtle) I saw Emp as one of my better scum picks butSila was the current wagonand hedefinitelywas scummyenough to deserve the wagon, so I joined in.
Plus his posts after the fact where he's clearly ignoring what he said is awful.
This thread needs more PrayPiotr and dramonic.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Kise Jack of All Trades
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silavor Goon
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Mariyta Mafia Scum
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Did anyone PM the mod? I'm going to do it right now, anyway.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
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Whoever thinks grammar is not important, think again. Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.-
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EmpTyger It's a JOKE!
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Do not go by Tragedy's [1117]. The mod's votecounts have not been accurate. I already noted that Kcda wasn't selfvoting, it was Antihero who was voting him. And I know the mod missed one of my votes earlier in the game. I haven't had a chance to fully check.
Also, again:Everyone cut/paste the pairings into their quicktopic.
Reckoner:
First of all, there *was* new evidence: Kcda/Baby Spice's alignment.xRECKONERx wrote:Because no NEW arguments have been made and you changed your mind.
But that's not my issue. My problem is that that's exactly what *you* did.
*You* were adamant that one of Reckoner/Kise were a liar.
*You* allegedly reread and reevaluated.
There weren't any NEW arguments when *you* flip flopped.
And now you say that that's suspicious.-
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Mist7676 Mafia Scum
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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Silavor - 11 (Purple Orange, Reck, GreyICE, dramonic, Ashblade, vezokpiraka, Mariyta, Mist7676, Espeonage, EmpTyger, silavor)
Espeonage - 3 (Kise, Nero Cain, Tragedy)
Emptyger - 1 (Charlie)
Not Voting - 5 (PrayPiotr, Thingyman, werewolf555, Llamarble, AntiHero)
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Silavor has been lynched. He was a Town Lover.
Charlie commits suicide. He was a Town Lover.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Mariyta Mafia Scum
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Well, that was some epic fail on Silavor's part.Millions long for immortality who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.
-Susan Ertz
Whoever thinks grammar is not important, think again. Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.-
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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NICE WAY TO FAILBOAT
Antihero, I owe you a good sheeping, despite BOTH halves of the pair claiming Baby Spice as lovers, they somehow flipped town. Tell me who I'm voting today.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Purple Orange Goon
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And a replacement for Thingyman, who's been the one gone the longest, and somehow never received one of the replacement players.Antihero wrote:This thread needs more PrayPiotr and dramonic.
Finally went through and nailed this down:
The only people to ever vote for either of the pair before Day 3 were myself, Reck, q21, dramonic, and llamarble.GreyICE wrote:He didn't get a wagon run up against him? I swear I've seen more than two Silavor votes. I know he was on my scumdar just waaayyyy under kcda/bs and q21/Umbrage (who, to be fair, flipped town, but my god I really dislike what they did to this thread).
Silv/Haylen never had a wagon on them. Theoretically, they had three votes on them at once early during day 1 (between posts 184 and 198), if you combine the votes on Haylen and on silv. But otherwise, they've had a grand total of two at once max. Yesterday, the most they had at once was one. I'll have to go through again and see if anyone even moderately agreed with the suspicion but did NOT vote -- from what I remember, however, most everyone just ignored them.
Sens apparently confused you with Espy, saw double, and removed you from the lineup completely in post 265. (I got distracted and cataloged everything last night. )EmpTyger wrote:Do not go by Tragedy's [1117]. The mod's votecounts have not been accurate. I already noted that Kcda wasn't selfvoting, it was Antihero who was voting him. And I know the mod missed one of my votes earlier in the game. I haven't had a chance to fully check.
Also,WHYDON'T YOU THINK ONE OF THEM HAS TO BE LYING ANYMORE? You were ridiculously adamant about this point, and I don't see how Kcdaspice's alignment flip changes any of that.
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silavor - DAMMIT, MAN! When you didn't mention the werewolves as having to be found, plus self-hammered, you seriously got my hopes up.-
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vezokpiraka Jack of All Trades
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vezokpiraka Jack of All Trades
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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Oh for fuck's sake, vezok is scum.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Purple Orange Goon
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...Holy Moses, he probably is.
Kise, if he flips werewolf-mafia, you win...my interpretation of your system has yelled "lynch vezok, you idiots!" since Day 2. My own train of thought lands me on vezok, but mostly because he looks like the best remaining explanation for the kcda trainwreck. :/ (Well, and his day 3 and 4 posts are...ungood).-
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Purple Orange Goon
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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Reading Vezok is NEARLY impossible. The problem is that his overwhelming motive is survival. He'll happily tell you himself how rarely he gets NKed, and he tries to avoid lynches in whatever manner he can.
Once he gets a little comfortable, he starts to release these little scum and town tells that he has. That's usually one of his scum tells.
The problem is if I move him too high on the focus list he just pulls a "VEZOKPIRAKA WILL SURVIVE" bullshit dive for cover, which is really just a null tell, and then you have to lynch him because he's entirely useless.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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GreyICE Fifty Shades
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I mean seriously, this sounds horrible that I put him as null or town just to make him comfortable, but you have no idea how hard it is to read the scummy unreadable shit.ShowThat which is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil
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Purple Orange Goon
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I had him as town Day 2 because he was providing about 10x the content and definite positions of other comparable lurkers. You have no idea how much of a pleasant surprise it was to read his ISO after slogging through kcda, wolf, and Haylen. I was like, "ZOMG, position! And another position! ZOMG, a bad argument, but it's an argument!" He was the ONLY lurker of that sort who actually seemed to keep some grasp on what was happening in the game and how it was progressing, and be making a substantive comment now and then about it.
I'm mostly going out of theoretical arguments, associative arguments, and some iffy deduction when it comes to him, though, which is why a vote for him feels so darn baseless, even if it isn't.
You've played with him before - does he usually keep up this well in complicated and long games?-
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Purple Orange Goon
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Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
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*pats back*GreyICE wrote:
NICE WAY TO FAILBOAT
Antihero, I owe you a good sheeping, despite BOTH halves of the pair claiming Baby Spice as lovers, they somehow flipped town. Tell me who I'm voting today.
analysis of bad wagons can be very informative. I just need to sit down and do it sometime (hopefully later today).
BTW silavor, don't ever do that again as town.
Vezok is starting to act like he did in 7p vengeful, but I can't read him because (like grey pointed out) he's purposefully making himself unreadable.
You know what the beauty of this game is?GreyICE wrote:Reading Vezok is NEARLY impossible. The problem is that his overwhelming motive is survival. He'll happily tell you himself how rarely he gets NKed, and he tries to avoid lynches in whatever manner he can.
Once he gets a little comfortable, he starts to release these little scum and town tells that he has. That's usually one of his scum tells.
The problem is if I move him too high on the focus list he just pulls a "VEZOKPIRAKA WILL SURVIVE" bullshit dive for cover, which is really just a null tell, and then you have to lynch him because he's entirely useless.
If one person is unreadable, look to the lover for another possible read.
OK, you've already commited the "well, that sucks" tell (I let it go, because it might not apply here), and now this?Mist7676 wrote:Lemme do it. Silavor the mafia lover has died.
Charlie the mafia lover has. Commited suicide DAY 3!! nah just kidding. I hope they r mafia lovers.
There are three scum couples left in the game, who do you think they are?
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@PO: You're using the phrases "vezok" and "keep up well" in the same sentence? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Antihero al;kdjfal;kj
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Oh, and a fun exercise.
Emptyger "wagon" - Antihero, Charlie, Llama, GreyICE,vezok(nonvote),mist, Ashblade (nonvote)
Silavor lynch - Purple Orange, Reck, GreyICE, dramonic, Ashblade,vezokpiraka, Mariyta,Mist7676, Espeonage, EmpTyger, silavorThe distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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vezokpiraka Jack of All Trades
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Yes I do.
In most of my scum games I lost because I slipped. Like really bad. REALLY REALLY bad. Like fakeclaiming s dead scum.
As town I get till LyLo or get lynched quick.
It's hard to avoid a lynch here because there are no NKes and people have no intention of leaving a wagon. Also because it's a normal game I can't get confirmed town to escape the lynch.Windows hasn't detected any keyboard. Press Enter.
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