Cold War Mafia - GAME OVER!!

[ThAdmiral]

@ dp: explain yourself, and explain the inconsistency yesterday if you want to avoid being lynched.

@ furc: you are acting the idiot though.
And you sooo know you are, don't even.

But this is exactly what I mean... when the day first started ThAd posted this:

It sounded like llama might have been the vig target, i.e. redcoyote's target.

Other than that... ghostwriter anyone?

which were exactly my thoughts reading through (RC vig'd Llama, and somebody else targeted GW). I think this is a major town-tell in ThAd's favor, because this scenario makes the most sense from a townie's point of you.

When I said "ghostwriter anyone" I was actually seeing if anyone wanted to jump aboard a gw wagon...

Because I hadn't realized gw had been replaced...



and then killed...

[ThAdmiral]

Iso on lowell (the easiest since he's posted the least):

looking pretty good tbh. Votes ghost a couple of times which I can't be unhappy with, and for good reasons to boot (reference his iso posts 0, 2, 3, 5 etc.). Says PI or gw wagon is better than a thad one - once again no complaints here.

In fact all up has been reasonable, pretty solid in the reads. Whenever he has changed to vote someone else has explained himself adequately.

I'm officially giving lowell the thad stamp of approval.

[Sotty7]

Day 2, vote count 7

DavidParker - 6 -

ThAdmiral, LynchMePls, InflatablePie, Lowell, bvoigt, EGL

Furcolow - 5 -

Scott Brosius, DavidParker, XScorpion, Stephoscope, smargaret

gonnano - 1 -

Amrun

Amrun -3 -

gonnano, Beasts of the Sea, Furcolow

mothrax - 1 -

Nachomamma8

smargaret - 1 -

Artem

Not voting - 3 -

mothrax, Feysal, Sathoris

With

20

alive, it takes

11

to lynch.

Deadline for the end of day two is Tuesday 23rd March @11am CST

[Stephoscope]

too many lurking bastards for JFK to handle ATM.
But if you leave me alive during the night, I'll be happy to oblige.

Are you implying you are going to kill someone?

[LimMePls]

I like the growth of the DP wagon and his completely failure to refute the points against him.

[LimMePls]

too many lurking bastards for JFK to handle ATM.
But if you leave me alive during the night, I'll be happy to oblige.

Are you implying you are going to kill someone?

If he were is this something you should be drawing attention to?

[DavidParker]

I like the growth of the DP wagon and his completely failure to refute the points against him.

My failure to refute points against me is my insistence that me full-claiming isn't beneficial to town at this point.

[LimMePls]

There are many more points than that. Get crackin.

[gonnano]

With regard to recent developments, I'd be willing to consider a DP lynch. I still like my Amrun vote for now, though. Furcolow reads foolish rather than scummy to me.

[bvoigt]

Who did you protect N1?

You're town, aren't you?

Yeah. Or was that a rhetorical question?

[Lowell]

@sathoris' 1382- why do I care how many scumteams there are?

[Stephoscope]

If he were is this something you should be drawing attention to?

Absolutely. It was a blatant statement, and softclaims are bad. I think he needs to say exactly what he meant.

[Beasts of the Sea]

I don't like Artem's clarification follow up post 1214. It is such a minor thing to clarify with a completely ridiculous suggestion (mass claiming) that the only reason he would want to clarify that is to cover his bases.

Town silencers are also not unheard of.

Can you like to a couple past games please?

Ever heard of "How does a scummy vig prove himself town to the rest?" ("He shoots himself") I believe the same holds in multi-vig scenarios. If somebody is (soft-)claiming a vig and is being scummy, as a vig you can prove their alignment to the town, just like you would prove yours. RC is an experienced player, so I can easily see him playing this strat.

But the whole point is that RedCoyote was an alternate night vig. Before vigging someone who soft claimed vig you would have to be pretty gutsy or really sold on a scum read to not even consider that the person is the other alternate night vig.

I agree with DP comments being scummy. In addition, he seems to be playing up this "role related information" while before it was just observation about the way something was phrased in his role pm by comparison.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DavidParker

[InflatablePie]

Someone put a bullet in gonnano's head already.

[Artem]

Last time I checked, SKs weren't anything BUT bad guys.

Last time I checked, SKs weren't the only role qualified as "3rd party".

I don't like Artem's clarification follow up post 1214. It is such a minor thing to clarify with a completely ridiculous suggestion (mass claiming) that the only reason he would want to clarify that is to cover his bases.

After some of the stuff you posted during D1, I kinda wrote you off as somebody who's not comfortable with the whole multiple-scenarios / beliefs / probability thing.

We are playing in a partial information game paradigm. I

will

consider hypothetical, yet plausible scenarios and I

will

clarify what I think was an imprecise statement from me, because this is how I think.

If you find that scummy, fine; just know that your frequentist is cramping my Bayesian style. (wut?)

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Also, I get the feeling that the current DP wagon is primarily pressure (most likely from scum) to get DP to full claim, rather than being based on DP actually being scummy.

[XScorpion]

I get the feeling that people are pussying out on voting for Furc and voting DP instead because they're too afraid that Furc might be a village idiot.

It's just like yesterday. I want to get Amrun/Pi lynched, but instead some random gets the noose instead. Can we please lynch the actual scum this time please?

[InflatablePie]

Also, I get the feeling that the current DP wagon is primarily pressure (most likely from scum) to get DP to full claim, rather than being based on DP actually being scummy.

I've been calling DP scummy on gut alone for a while now. You can check me in ISO. Just sayin'.

[Furcolow]

I'm not convinced DP is scum, but he did post a lot of one liners like this one

[DavidParker]

That's what I do. Anything in particular you want an exact explanation for? My claim is not something I'm willing to explain yet.

[ThAdmiral]

I've asked a few times but you haven't satisfactorily explained yesterdays inconsistency.

[Sotty7]

mothrax

and

Scott Brosius

have been prodded.

[mothrax]

Prodded. Will catch up when I get off work. (I finally got my comp back)

[Furcolow]

I'm really not convinced you're scum, David, so no, I don't really need an explanation.

[smargaret]

Stephoscope is making me really nervous, here. Day 1 was all active lurking and fluff posting; Day 2 has been all rolefishing. Read his ISO - he only has six posts that aren't one-liners, and most of those are two-liners. If he's scum, he's dangerous scum.

Gonnano - it's interesting that he keeps pushing jmj after mothrax replaces in. I'm seeing a lot of posting of information and not a lot of taking positions. When he does say "X might be scum" it's sheeping someone else - RC and Ghostwriter, for instance. His preoccupation with why people want him dead is also troubling. I think he's ever so slightly more likely to be scum than Steph, but Steph is doing more damage to town - I'd be happy to see a wagon on either of them.

Lowell actually reads more like this is his playstyle, not like he's scum. Can someone who's played with him before verify whether or not this is the case? There's a little bit of wagon hopping, but out of these three people, he looks the most town.

DP in no way clears Furc, but I'd rather leave them to the vig and let the town look at the three people above.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Steph

[Furcolow]

Why is smargaret alive?