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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:14 am

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Also,
unvote,vote Nero
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:22 am

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Nero wagon... so tempting...
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:59 am

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Maemuki replaces Substrike22.

Vote Count

Chronopie (0)
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Dry-fit (0)
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Bunnylover (1)
- Maemuki
PranaDevil (1)
- Katsuki
bristep123 (0)
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Nero Cain (2)
- diddin, mothrax
Iecerint (1)
- Antihero
vezokpiraka (0)
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Katsuki (0)
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Meransiel (0)
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popsofctown (0)
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ender241 (5)
- GhostWriter, Fate, bill1148, Iecerint, vezokpiraka
Jedo the Jedi (7)
- Meransiel, Untrod Tripod, ender241, Bunnylover, Riceballtail, bristep123, Nero Cain
diddin (5)
- Dry-fit, LynchMePls, Fritzler, Jedo the Jedi, DeathRowKitty
mothrax (0)
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Riceballtail (0)
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Antifinity (1)
- popsofctown
LynchMePls (0)
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Untrod Tripod (0)
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Maemuki (1)
- Antifinity
Fritzler (0)
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bill1148 (1)
- PranaDevil
GhostWriter (0)
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Fate (0)
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DeathRowKitty (0)
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Antihero (0)
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No Lynch (0)
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Not Voting (1)
- Chronopie

26 votes available, 14 votes needed to lynch.

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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:03 am

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Nero went BACK on the jedo wagon?

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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:46 am

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*salutes* Yo. Anybody can tell what's been going on or I'll have to do it the old-fashioned way (eh, then again, it's only 11 pages...)?
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:47 am

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Also:

UNVOTE: Bunnylover
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:33 am

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Fate wrote:Nero went BACK on the jedo wagon?

Unvote:
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I approve of this product and/or service.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:31 am

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diddin wrote:Attacking someone based on whether they post on weekends even if they say they don't is crap.

Nero: What was Jedo's alignment in Mutiny? If he was town, why are you using this tell to incriminate him as scum now?

unvote, Vote: Nero Cain


Nero has posted little relevant content and is now using crap reasoning to push the wagon on Jedo.

As a matter of fact, this makes Jedo probably town, IMO.
This post is crap. First of all I'm NOT voting Jedo for "posting on the weekends", I'm voting Jedo for
LYING
.

He posted a pre-emptive "OH HEY GUYS I'M NOT GOING TO POST ON THE WEEKENDS." This looks like an excuse for lurking. In mutiny, when he was town, he DID NOT post a pre-emptive post like that.

Also I have far more "content" then alot of people.
Fate wrote:Nero went BACK on the jedo wagon?

Unvote:
Vote: Nero CAIN
I was never there before therefore I couldn't go back. Fate fail is fail.

This built up way to fast built up on false and crap reasoning. Both Diddin and Fate are missrepping like crap. I hate Mothraxs vote on me b/c he was agreeing with Diddin's crap case. Not to fond of Anti vote for agreeing with Fate's lie.

unvote;vote:Diddin


His line about Jedo being prob town sounds like Chainsawing for town cred.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:38 am

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Unvote

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For lying? As a person with an out-of-my-hands sometimes posting restriction, maybe I sympathize with Jedo. But the way I see it, most people do not say they won't post on the weekends simply because they intend to be watching the game but not saying anything. They do it because of a history of having something to interfere with them most of the time during the weekends in their real life, and them posting on the weekends isn't a taboo so much as it is a smile of fortune for them. Why you would attack this by calling it lying is beyond me. It's like someone saying they're on vacation and V/LA, posting from the hotel lobby, and getting voted for not being at the beach.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:50 am

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GhostWriter wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: Nero Cain

For lying? As a person with an out-of-my-hands sometimes posting restriction, maybe I sympathize with Jedo. But the way I see it, most people do not say they won't post on the weekends simply because they intend to be watching the game but not saying anything. They do it because of a history of having something to interfere with them most of the time during the weekends in their real life, and them posting on the weekends isn't a taboo so much as it is a smile of fortune for them. Why you would attack this by calling it lying is beyond me. It's like someone saying they're on vacation and V/LA, posting from the hotel lobby, and getting voted for not being at the beach.
I very much believe that scum players make up excuses to lurk all the damn time. For instance, and you might remember this one Jedo, in mutiny...I think when I was getting mislynched.....VOX went V/LA right before the lynch to excuse himself for not voting. Kat has a history of going V/LA.

Maybe its just me but if I go on vacation, I stay on vacation. And I don't even see the point in posting while I'm away.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:51 am

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ITT, we watch scum flail.
NC wrote:This post is crap. First of all I'm NOT voting Jedo for "posting on the weekends", I'm voting Jedo for LYING.

He posted a pre-emptive "OH HEY GUYS I'M NOT GOING TO POST ON THE WEEKENDS." This looks like an excuse for lurking. In mutiny, when he was town, he DID NOT post a pre-emptive post like that.
GW already covered why this sucks, so I'll refer you to his last post.

I was never there before therefore I couldn't go back. Fate fail is fail.
NC wrote:This built up way to fast built up on false and crap reasoning. Both Diddin and Fate are missrepping like crap. I hate Mothraxs vote on me b/c he was agreeing with Diddin's crap case. Not to fond of Anti vote for agreeing with Fate's lie.

unvote;vote:Diddin

His line about Jedo being prob town sounds like Chainsawing for town cred.
First off, the whole "OMG, everyone on my wagon is scum" analysis = weak.
Second, why did you vote diddin here if you were so gungho on LAL? Convictions don't match up with actions here.
Third, why would scum chainsaw other scum give them towncred? Wouldn't scum be chainsaw defending
town
for towncred? Did Jedo become town all the sudden?

Contradictions and inconsistancies are scummy, NC.
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:09 am

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Nero Cain wrote:
GhostWriter wrote:
Unvote

VOTE: Nero Cain

For lying? As a person with an out-of-my-hands sometimes posting restriction, maybe I sympathize with Jedo. But the way I see it, most people do not say they won't post on the weekends simply because they intend to be watching the game but not saying anything. They do it because of a history of having something to interfere with them most of the time during the weekends in their real life, and them posting on the weekends isn't a taboo so much as it is a smile of fortune for them. Why you would attack this by calling it lying is beyond me. It's like someone saying they're on vacation and V/LA, posting from the hotel lobby, and getting voted for not being at the beach.
I very much believe that scum players make up excuses to lurk all the damn time. For instance, and you might remember this one Jedo, in mutiny...I think when I was getting mislynched.....VOX went V/LA right before the lynch to excuse himself for not voting. Kat has a history of going V/LA.

Maybe its just me but if I go on vacation, I stay on vacation. And I don't even see the point in posting while I'm away.
Maybe vacation wasn't the best comparison. However, of note is the fact that these people don't do this at the start-up of the game. They do it later.

Nero Cain wrote:He posted a pre-emptive "OH HEY GUYS I'M NOT GOING TO POST ON THE WEEKENDS." This looks like an excuse for lurking. In mutiny, when he was town, he DID NOT post a pre-emptive post like that.
That's the fun part. He did.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:12 am

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Antihero wrote:Second, why did you vote diddin here if you were so gungho on LAL? Convictions don't match up with actions here.
Third, why would scum chainsaw other scum give them towncred? Wouldn't scum be chainsaw defending
town
for towncred? Did Jedo become town all the sudden?

Contradictions and inconsistancies are scummy, NC.
You should let me explain first then.

I truely belived that Jedo was scummy for his lie. Diddins post was full of crap and lies. Add this in with his "Hey I'm going to bandwagon...opps wagon is to big so I'm hopping off" from earlier in the day. Sure, I could buy a Jedo/Diddin group. But the "he's prob town" line doesn't strike me very well and sounds like Diddin might have some inside info.

Opinions change throughout the game.

[First off, the whole "OMG, everyone on my wagon is scum" analysis = weak.[/quote]
Perhaps but that doesn't mean its not true or that all of you are town. When Diddins case is a lie. Fate's case is a lie and you and Moth voting me for agreeing with liars...
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:16 am

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I will give you this: I did not like Diddin's jump off of the wagon.
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:18 am

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GhostWriter wrote:That's the fun part. He did.
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 99&start=0

I must be blind as a bat then. Can you tell me wich ISO # it is?
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:22 am

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Iso # 2.
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:22 am

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I dislike the idea of nero scum, considering he does have a valid point or am i missing something?
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:27 am

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Tell me the valid point, in your own words.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:28 am

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Not the same thing GW. In THIS game he said I'M NOT GOING TO BE ACTIVE ON THE WEEKENDS in his first post. In THAT game he said this is my only post this weekend. Doesn't seem like the same thing to me.

But its a moot point considering Diddins possibly inside information.
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:42 am

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Not a moot point, since you just read back to me a part of iso 1 in that game, rather than iso 2, which is what I pointed out. And the point is that he does it in, I believe, all of his games. Regardless of alignment. And if in one game he explains the whole situation but doesn't in another (the whole situation shows that he has a little wiggle room in the weekend posting department), I hardly see that as vote worthy.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:19 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:You should let me explain first then.

I truely belived that Jedo was scummy for his lie. Diddins post was full of crap and lies. Add this in with his "Hey I'm going to bandwagon...opps wagon is to big so I'm hopping off" from earlier in the day. Sure, I could buy a Jedo/Diddin group. But the "he's prob town" line doesn't strike me very well and sounds like Diddin might have some inside info.
OK, your vote on diddin makes sense.

Your vote on Jedo didn't, and your diddin-scum theory would imply that jedo is town (or, at least, not scum with diddin). I guess that's why you removed your Jedo vote...?

So, where do you stand on Jedo now?
NC wrote:Opinions change throughout the game.
Yes, but in this case, they changed over the course of one post.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:32 pm

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Antihero wrote:I guess that's why you removed your Jedo vote...?
Yes.
So, where do you stand on Jedo now?
I'm thinking town. Diddins "He's prob town" line is scummy to me. If Jedi is town then it would make sense for scum to attach his attacker. Calling him prob town leaves the door open for him to attack Jedo later on.
NC wrote:Opinions change throughout the game.
Yes, but in this case, they changed over the course of one post.
New information [from Diddin] changed my opinion.
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:07 pm

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Nero Cain wrote:
diddin wrote:Attacking someone based on whether they post on weekends even if they say they don't is crap.

Nero: What was Jedo's alignment in Mutiny? If he was town, why are you using this tell to incriminate him as scum now?

unvote, Vote: Nero Cain


Nero has posted little relevant content and is now using crap reasoning to push the wagon on Jedo.

As a matter of fact, this makes Jedo probably town, IMO.
This post is crap. First of all I'm NOT voting Jedo for "posting on the weekends", I'm voting Jedo for
LYING
.

He posted a pre-emptive "OH HEY GUYS I'M NOT GOING TO POST ON THE WEEKENDS." This looks like an excuse for lurking. In mutiny, when he was town, he DID NOT post a pre-emptive post like that.

Also I have far more "content" then alot of people.
Fate wrote:Nero went BACK on the jedo wagon?

Unvote:
Vote: Nero CAIN
I was never there before therefore I couldn't go back. Fate fail is fail.

This built up way to fast built up on false and crap reasoning. Both Diddin and Fate are missrepping like crap. I hate Mothraxs vote on me b/c he was agreeing with Diddin's crap case. Not to fond of Anti vote for agreeing with Fate's lie.

unvote;vote:Diddin


His line about Jedo being prob town sounds like Chainsawing for town cred.
The fact that you call being active once on weekends when he said he was V/LA on weekends a serious scumtell is amusing. LAL is a shit policy for reasons just like this. Real life happens. He may have been able to post just this weekend but will be busy on future weekends.

The fact that you manage to attack everyone on your wagon in some way but single me out with a vote screams flailing scum.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:36 pm

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I was never attacked. Interesting.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:42 pm

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diddin wrote:The third and fourth spots on a bandwagon are generally considered to be the scummiest spots to be on.
Do you agree with that concept? This is interesting because you were third on the Jedo wagon.

@Antihero: You never answered my question. Was your vote on Iecerent a random vote, and if not what was its basis?

@Prana: What do you feel your bill vote is going to lead to?

I don't like Nero's reaction to the wagon being formed on him.
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