Open 272 - Near-Vanilla (Over!)

[AntB]

You're going to have to explain this 'do or die' concept you believe that I'm using

Do as I say or I'll kill you.

I generally have a good idea of how his play-style his, his push on CS doesn't fit his good-town meta, that being said I had a town-read on his spot before he filled it. Therefore essentially I'm asking him to pick up his game or I don't need him in here.

This fits with the do or die thing...

we need every vote we can get on farside.

Then why is your on Magua?

[AntB]

EBOWP: *why is your vote on magua

[Looker]

I'll vote when I'm damn well ready to vote.

Here here.

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• Bella
  • What I was thinking: JK Egg until we get a no-kill, then ask Egg who he JK'd. Whomever he says is town, the real JK counterclaims their JK of Egg, and we discern scum amongst the remaining players. Now of course this won't work not but that's what I was thinking. (Feel free to shut me down with "Well that wouldn't have worked
    anyway
    because of x, y, and z." I know you're good for it.)

[Looker]

*now. This won't work

now

.

[Bella]

In that scenario, Eggscum and his partner would know that there is a JK out there who can block kills and knows Egg is scum. Thus, the partner will be submitting all the kills. The only change of a kill not going through would be through a Doc protect. It's just a bad, bad plan that only matters after several night phases that would be better spent finding a single scum who has no partner on account of Egg being dead.

[andrew94]

v/la 2 days

[Looker]

In that scenario, Eggscum and his partner would know that there is a JK out there who can block kills and knows Egg is scum. Thus, the partner will be submitting all the kills. The only change of a kill not going through would be through a Doc protect. It's just a bad, bad plan that only matters after several night phases that would be better spent finding a single scum who has no partner on account of Egg being dead.

• Or if the JK has been jailing everyone except Egg for the very reason you stated, in which case there'd be two pretty much confirmed town already.
• I gotta go to work. Be back whenever. Try not to replace me.

[Archer]

Dont have a lot of time right now, but will make an effort later tonight, or tomorrow morning latest. Two things did however stick out

It's clearly plain miscommunication because we lynched ConSpiracy and he flipped town, yet a case was made against him for not recieving a town PM, which he clearly did.

I lean towards farside being scum at the moment, although there's no real certainty behind it. Scum partner would be one of AntB, Magua and you, in that order of preference.

"we" lynched conspiracy? You were not even on the consp wagon. Who is this "we?"

Looker your JK scenarios do not work. If Egg is not the JK, then the real one must step forward, letting us lynch scum, leaving only one scum left. Then the real JK confirms town each night or finds scum. All the other plans you are coming up with are far far inferior. Why you keep going on about this who knows?!

[Bella]

We as in the town. I don't understand why you have a problem with that?

[Archer]

Unvote, Vote: Magua

Mafia is Looker+Farside. But lets lynch useless town first.

This is madness. Complete and utter madness. 9 left, 2 of which are scum. One useless townie is not going to stop anything.

We as in the town. I don't understand why you have a problem with that?

Read it as "my scum partner and I lynched Consp yesterday, mwahaha." But I got nothing else on you to make me think you're scum. Guess I would've phrased it differently hence it stuck out.

[Bella]

That's a pretty ridiculous interpretation of what I said.

[Bella]

Aside from the fact that I'm insulted you'd think I'd be that sloppy, there's absolutely no justification for that interpretation of it when you take even the slightest look at how the ConSpiracy wagon went and how I was nowhere near the damn thing, which you pointed out yourself. How could I,. as scum, have considered myself as playing any part in getting ConSpiracy lynched? I did not vote for him. I did not advance any sort of case against him. I was on his side over his farside case and I raised the possibility of lynching someone other than him at the end of the day. I did nothing that could in any way be construed as helping that lynch go ahead.

Just... pay attention, dammit.

[Regfan]

Disussing the possibilty of Egg being fake and a JK not counter-claiming is idotic, there's no logical reason for a cc not occuring yet if that was the case.

My votes on Magua because I want him to do something instead of lurking and stating his disagreement with a Farside lynch without explaining his reasoning behind it.

[Regfan]

On a side note, this game seems to be stalling and stagnating again as it seems to have done in the past. So either add new content (Make a case against someone) or put a up vote up, doing neither does nothing to help progress this game and catch the mafia.

[Egg]

I hate to say this because I'm finally seeing support for his lynch, but I believe Archer gave a pretty serious town tell. I want to know what everyone thinks about this.

I said that I'd bet my cat (if I had one) that Archer was scum. Later, I re-asserted that Archer was scum and he brought the "bet" back up without any prompting from me. He seems to be gloating about how I'd lose this bet. This gloating looks like an "I'm right, you're wrong. You'll see" kind of gloating. Like he knows he's right and can't wait to rub it in my face.

*Sigh*

Unvote, Vote Regfan

[Regfan]

Yep. This game offically wins the worst players award if there is one. Egg mind responding to why you disagree with:
1) Why you disagree with a farside lynch.
2) Why you suspect me as mafia?
3) What are your reads outside of Farside.

In relation to your 'town-tell' on Archer, I read that as null, that comment would be said regardless of allignment in hope that you would reduce your suspicion on him.

Lets get this game back on the right track please.

Unvote, Vote: Farside

[Magua]

You forgot the alternate lynch part.

No, I didn't. Vote's still on Archer. Hasn't moved.

Egg being scum: This idea is just out-and-out crazy. Stop it. Looker, if you're going to claim jailkeeper, claim jailkeeper. Otherwise, drop it.

As for Regfan, I knew this would occur the moment he replaced in. For the record, this behavior for him is a nulltell. Treat it like Jack scumslipping D1. He's simply a really aggressive player.

Mafia is Looker+Farside. But lets lynch useless town first.

You think Looker is scum. I think Looker is scum. Why is your reaction to vote me instead of voting Looker? (I could ask the same question about you and Archer.)

Secondly, we've played together lots. What on earth makes you think that I'm going to do as you say because you put a single vote on me? Your post-by-post-analyses don't persuade me. Your bombast does not persuade me.

Get this through your head:

I thought Conspiracy was scum.

I give several reasons for why I thought this. If you find yourself seriously incapable of believing that I thought this, say so.

Now, with that out of the way:

- You think Bella is town? Yes/no.
- You think andrew is town? Yes/no.

[Regfan]

How sure I am Looker is mafia? 70%. How sure I am Farside is mafia 99%. I would pick voting Farside over Looker any day of the week, and I was hoping me voting you would at least force you to show some ounce of sense, which you still haven't.

Get this through your head: I thought Conspiracy was scum. I give several reasons for why I thought this. If you find yourself seriously incapable of believing that I thought this, say so.

I still find this extremely hard to believe, I've said so already.

Yes, I've stated I have a strong town-read on Bella already and I think Andrew is town without a doubt, again already stated so.

Now some questions for you Magua:
- Do you think Farside is town? Yes/No - If Yes, state why.
- Who do you think Lookers partner is?

[AntB]

@Regfan
You didn't answer my question but instead seemed to evade it by adjusting your vote. My question still stands.
Why vote Magua when you "need all the votes we can get" on Farside?
I'm also curious as to why your expecting a possible CC on the Jailkeeper?

[Regfan]

AntB, I did address your question, here's my answer: I was hoping me voting you would at least force you to show some ounce of sense, which you still haven't.
The you was obviously directed towards Magua, and if that isn't clear enough I voted him in an attempt to get him to start doing something or to state his read towards either farside or myself. I don't expect a CC on the JK, re-read my posts I state expecting a CC to the JK is idiotic. Now AntB, your reads?

[inHimshallibe]

sorrysorrysorrysorrysorry

Vote count coming, I've had absolutely zero time available. Will be keeping the pace the rest of the way.

[farside22]

@Egg: If you believe Archer is now town why do you believe Regfan is scum? I expect better from you at this point.
@Looker/Bella: This debate is pointless. I can't believe no one is voting for Looker for his wishy washy, what if Egg isn't JK when any town worth their salt (WHICH EGG FUCKING DID WHEN BATT FAKE CLAIMED THE ROLE DAY ONE) would counter claim.

I swear Magua do me a favor, just vote me and put me out of this hell hole of a game. If nothing else your doing me a major favor and Regfan is right there is a great case against me. I put myself in a hole this game that it will always make me look suspicious. I already claimed VT, scum will keep me alive because of people's suspicion. And finally I want to see Regan have egg on his face.

[Egg]

Regfan,
1. I don't.
2. You replaced brokenscraps
3. Scum can be found in andrew/you/bella/farside.
As far as archer, I disagree. It's a pretty obscure tell that most people wouldn't think about, so I doubt he'd fake it.

Farside, look through my ISO for brokenscraps. It's there.

[inHimshallibe]

Official Day 3 Vote Tally

9 players remain; 5 votes needed for a lynch.

farside22 (2)

- Archer, Regfan

Archer (1)

- Magua

Looker (1)

- farside22

AntB (1)

- andrew94

andrew94 (1)

- AntB

Regfan (1)

- Egg

Yet to vote (2): Looker, Bella

[Looker]

Aside from the fact that I'm insulted you'd think I'd be that sloppy, there's absolutely no justification for that interpretation of it when you take even the slightest look at how the ConSpiracy wagon went and how I was nowhere near the damn thing, which you pointed out yourself. How could I,. as scum, have considered myself as playing any part in getting ConSpiracy lynched? I did not vote for him. I did not advance any sort of case against him. I was on his side over his farside case and I raised the possibility of lynching someone other than him at the end of the day. I did nothing that could in any way be construed as helping that lynch go ahead.

Just... pay attention, dammit.

• I'm guessing that's what all those quoted votecounts were supposed to show?

@Egg: If you believe Archer is now town why do you believe Regfan is scum? I expect better from you at this point.
@Looker/Bella: This debate is pointless. I can't believe no one is voting for Looker for his wishy washy, what if Egg isn't JK when any town worth their salt (WHICH EGG FUCKING DID WHEN BATT FAKE CLAIMED THE ROLE DAY ONE) would counter claim.

I swear Magua do me a favor, just vote me and put me out of this hell hole of a game. If nothing else your doing me a major favor and Regfan is right there is a great case against me. I put myself in a hole this game that it will always make me look suspicious. I already claimed VT, scum will keep me alive because of people's suspicion. And finally I want to see Regan have egg on his face.

• Or you could just ask for a replacement.
  
• "God I look forward to this game being over."
  • Yeah, maybe you should request a replacement.

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• Either way, I still don't trust Egg, and trying to go above and beyond in a game isn't all that stupid, what with it being a game and all. Whatever.