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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:20 am

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Baby Spice wrote:But what I wanted to ask thAd is why? Isn't it a little early to be saying pick one or the other now?
As I mentioned I feel there was more than enough support for either of these lynch targets.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:
ThAd wrote: @ everyone: kagelord or friend - pick a side.
Creating a false dichotomy that

A. They are the only acceptable lynches
B. They can’t be both scum

Is scumtastic
Well I want them both dead, so B isn't really valid.
Like I said I wanted things to get moving since we seemed to be just talking, a few people were having closed arguments that I'm sure others ignored, and I also didn't want to let ABR take over like he did yesterday...

Although it's too late for that last bit.
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ThAdmiral wrote:Furthermore I don't feel like much more discussion is going to help. This game is not going to become any clearer until at least one scum flips. I am getting pretty antsy to strike tbh.
Apparently, the nighttime serial killer being dead doesn't help you.
Well no, actually. It doesn't help me hunt for other scum.
Magua wrote:Obviously, Kublai Khan is now going to be either killed or roleblocked. I'm going to make sure that ThAdmiral is the other.

/strike: ThAdmiral

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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:25 am

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MagnaofIllusion wrote:
ThAd wrote:/strike: kagelord

Competing strike wagons ftw.
Self fucking preservation FTL.

Hey look I’m ThAd!! People are suspecting my play. What should I do? I know … immediately form a Counterwagon that assures there is zero chance a succesfull Kill / Block action by Town hits anyone but KK or Kagelord.
Hey look I'm ThAd (actually)!! I'm sick and tired of ABR bossing this game and everybody just following like sheep. What should I do? I know...I don't trust him or who he's chosen, and I know I'm town, so I know that whatever target I choose to strike is automatically better than his one.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:42 am

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Strike: TheAdmiral


Proving it's not too late to turn something shit into something better.


What's with voting if this is how the days are gonna go anyways?
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:35 am

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Alright, so looks like shit happened last night >.>

ABR's strike on KK is meh. I just can't make myself see the KK wagon. However, his post seems genuine and I can't really fault him for it. BabySpice hops on pretty hard though.

I REALLY don't like Camn's attempt to justify the Double block plan so hard. Especially when she gets to the point where she starts justifying it by saying that the strategy of -actually scumhunting- will inevitably lead to our downfall. Specifically this post:
Camn wrote:Cuz the way I see it, eventually we are going to be in LYLO, and we aren't going to have shit. We are going to get beat by one of the scum factions... probably the first one to see its IC member get killed.

Thats what will happen if we dont get a plan together now.
Mine is just what I came up with.. I am into any suggestions?
This is just bad logic, and worse rhetoric. I don't understand how the normal process by which town scumhunt is going to fail us in her eyes.
Mix this with her wishy-washy hop on the KK wagon and something just doesn't seem right.
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ThAd's KK strike is 100% self-preservation, and scummy as hell. Enough said.
Can we discuss a possible ThAd kill? With Toog's strike on ThAd, it's now confirmed that we cannot block & kill, so at this point we can choose from any of the three. So if we can get enough support, I'd prefer ThAd wagon first, Kage second.

In other news, Plum's last big post seemed like it was trying really hard to play the neutral stance. Slight scumpoints for that one.

More later when I have some more time. For now I'd say.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:27 am

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Metropolis:
Revisited
— The Phantom Pollbooth



KageLord [3] – ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

ThAdmiral [1]
– Toogeloo

Hasn't struck a blow yet
– Everyone else



With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:54 am

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Nacho wrote:I'm not attacking the fact that he apologized for replacing out. Where in my post gave you that perception?
Nacho wrote:He hopes that his replacing out won't make his predecessor look scummy, but he doesn't mention anything about town winning or that sort of thing.
ODM said "I'm sorry for replacing out, don't hold it against my replacement." You bolded the second half and directly stated ODM's slot is scummy for making that statement; you didn't explicitly state, "you're scummy for apologizing", but it's clear that's exactly what you're saying. You explicitly are not calling him scummy for being absent for D1 and you are explicitly not calling him scummy for replacing. You're only calling him scummy for the apology/hope.
Hrezs wrote:The simulation lists TWO paramedics, so clearly you were mistaken just as much as I was
Try reading. Your whining is completely irrelevant to my comment.
AGM wrote:Your required reading for tomorrow: My totally different, actually reasoned out opinion that I posted later (instead of just the lolscum response that I give all the time).
The problem is I know you're good at coming up with a plausible case to try justifying your vote after the fact. That plus I'll recheck your iso when I have more time, but I don't recall seeing what you're referencing in the catchup.

@Camn-
-Explain what I missed int he rest of your post. I'm not seeing it. It sounds like you were simply advocating one of the most anti-town strategies that can be advocated in a game of mafia.
-Scum or town who knows the whole (minus DSK) setup aren't any more likely to obviously push scum than players who just scumhunt and figure it out. Revealing that you KNOW who the scum are makes a player into a much more likely NK since you're dangerous to that scum team and you're going to be harder to lynch.
Toog wrote:Say StrangerCoug single-handedly leads a lynch against ABR, and he flips Gang Leader of the Night Riders
If you're actually ballsy-scum publicly claiming your GF, I applaud you. ThAd's "maybe DSK won't kill today" speculation is still a load of BS even if this kills my analogy.

@Mod-

I'm pretty sure you didn't answer my question (and I'm too lazy to check if you did). I'll rephrase it for something a bit more relevant given our current situation:
-What happens if the DSK kills a player who has already been struck?
--Do players who struck the now dead guy get to strike again? (Assuming no)
--Does a strike by the dead player still count? (Assuming yes)
--Which strikes count towards the 40% & 60% thresholds?
---Is it based on number of living players?
---Is it based on number of strikes already cast + number that can still be cast? (if so does it include strikes on the DSK's target)?

@Toog-
You couldn't wait for confirmation on Magua's potential strike before striking?

@Current wagons-
I'd go with ThAd over the other two. KK would be next.

@ThAd-
Going to acknowledge that I saw your responses. I'm not sure how to proceed or if I even need to since your responses were pretty much, "Lol, you're right on all counts, I'm scummy and I don't care. Now that we've agreed, let's lynch someone else." I'm kinda dumbstruck.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:57 am

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IF ABR is actually Gang Leader of the Night Riders, I will be V/LA in Vegas for the next week.
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:01 am

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Well now that the kill + block plan is officially screwed...

I don't know why someone was calling for my claim at this point. It's 6 more until I'm even hospitalized. Anyway, if someone is going to make the 9th strike on someone, wait to see if they want to claim first.

My order: KK, ThAd, me

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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:04 am

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KL gets points for not striking KK
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:04 am

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KageLord wrote:Well now that the kill + block plan is officially screwed...
Kill + Block was never viable.
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:46 am

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Toogeloo wrote:
KageLord wrote:Well now that the kill + block plan is officially screwed...
Kill + Block was never viable.
Well, assuming you were right about DSK waiting to kill until we had already reached a certain number of strikes on someone, we could have done it before the first strike on ThAd. If the DSK decided not to kill today, then yes, it was never possible.
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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:15 am

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Kise wrote:
Magua wrote:Obviously, Kublai Khan is now going to be either killed or roleblocked. I'm going to make sure that ThAdmiral is the other.

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You also intended to rush a strike.. your townread of KK is a good excuse via mindset to explain as much, but this strike-rush is senseless when there's no guarantee a wagon has 12 supporters.
I did, yes, because once there's two wagons, we give up a lot by starting a third, and I wanted to ensure that one of the wagons was on someone I actually had a scumread on.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Striking ThAd, really?
Yes really.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Why on God’s Green Earth would you leave that strike in the post when there is even the slightest chance that Reaper will ignore the strike-through and count it as a valid strike?

If he does it assures we have NO shot at the possible Kill / Block combo
It was stupid of me to leave it in like that, but I was pissed. It's not much of a reason to have done it, but there you go.

Toogeloo strikes ThAdmiral. Now we can't kill/roleblock, which is sad...but...puts more pressure on everyone who hasn't struck yet to at least justify their strike. Which is good. With 7 strikes down, we've got 14 left, so we can still lynch anyone if it's near unanimous.

All of that said, I *really* want to lynch ThAdmiral.

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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:35 am

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The striking has begun again.
I've kept KK in my scum section, but didn't think anyone else was with me on him as scum, so I'm actually happy strikes are been placed on him.
As for Kagelord, haven't seen why people are calling him scum. I'm going to read his ISO before I make my strike.
For now:
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:00 am

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Kast wrote:
@Mod-

I'm pretty sure you didn't answer my question (and I'm too lazy to check if you did). I'll rephrase it for something a bit more relevant given our current situation:
-What happens if the DSK kills a player who has already been struck?
--Do players who struck the now dead guy get to strike again? (Assuming no)
[ No, they can't strike again. - RC ]

--Does a strike by the dead player still count? (Assuming yes)
[ Yes, it will still count. - RC ]

--Which strikes count towards the 40% & 60% thresholds?
---Is it based on number of living players?
[ ≥40% of living players to block, ≥60% of living players to kill. - RC ]

---Is it based on number of strikes already cast + number that can still be cast? (if so does it include strikes on the DSK's target)?
[ There are no fancy relativity formulas. It's simply ≥40% and ≥60% of living players. - RC ]
@Kast: Answers to your questions are integrated above.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:16 am

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KageLord wrote:Well now that the kill + block plan is officially screwed...

I don't know why someone was calling for my claim at this point. It's 6 more until I'm even hospitalized. Anyway, if someone is going to make the 9th strike on someone, wait to see if they want to claim first.

My order: KK, ThAd, me

Unvote

VOTE: KK
for the record, did you like the kill/block plan?

the rest of your post does not surprise me in the least.
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:52 am

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Responding to a pre-prod prod. >.>

I'll get on this... eventually. @_@
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:39 am

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Exe wrote:ThAd's KK strike is 100% self-preservation, and scummy as hell. Enough said.
Can we discuss a possible ThAd kill? With Toog's strike on ThAd, it's now confirmed that we cannot block & kill, so at this point we can choose from any of the three. So if we can get enough support, I'd prefer ThAd wagon first, Kage second.
A couple of people have mentioned the self preservation stuff, but it honestly wasn't. At the time I didn't feel threatened enough to think that I was going to be a second strike option and surely I would have received less attention if I had quietly let ABRs kk wagon push ahead full steam.
Toogeloo wrote:What's with voting if this is how the days are gonna go anyways?
ABR started it...
Kast wrote:@ThAd-
Going to acknowledge that I saw your responses. I'm not sure how to proceed or if I even need to since your responses were pretty much, "Lol, you're right on all counts, I'm scummy and I don't care. Now that we've agreed, let's lynch someone else." I'm kinda dumbstruck.
That's not exactly the impression I was trying to give. I just explained my motivation for everything I've done. If you want clarification on anything just ask.
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:40 am

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Here's the case on kagelord btw. It was easy to miss as it was in the middle of a post near the bottom of the last page:
ThAdmiral wrote:Kagelord - had several posts consisting of almost 100% night-action speculation. It was fluff and arguably pr hunting. Also participation in dgb lynch was highly suspect. Especially considering the wagon was driven by his apparent biggest suspect: abr.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:33 am

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KageLord wrote:Well now that the kill + block plan is officially screwed...
No, it's not.

As long as KK and KL receive the strikes, and the DSK kills someone who has already struck, then it's viable. Given that on D1 the DSK held off until real late in the day it's still a chance.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:46 pm

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ThAdmiral wrote:
/strike: kagelord


Competing strike wagons ftw.
VOTE: ThAdmiral. Starting a competing strike wagon for the sake of starting a competing strike wagon doesn't really help matters. Sorry. I'd strike if it were not for this from MagnaofIllusion:
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:50 pm

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Responding to a pre-prod prod. >.>

I'll get on this... eventually. @_@
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:51 pm

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OK:

Dear everyone: You are about to see a dramatic change in my play. Call it hormones. Call it Spyrex's encouragement.. but I sense the old me it rising her evil, bloodthirsty head. Which means I want death, and carnage, and I want it now.
Also, this mood coincides with me shifting strategies as per ABR's suggestion. I no longer desire a strategic, thought out plan. I desire to kill all non-townies, by whatever means necessary.

A few responses:

@
MOI
: I love high Risk:Reward. It is where I am my best.

@
EXE
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@
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@
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Friend
or
Lady
LambaDelta
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:53 pm

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camn, I will strike LLD right now if you join me.
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:53 pm

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Ok. Fuck it. Here it goes, Friend case in the next 10 minutes or lynch me.

I need to get motivated for this game.
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:54 pm

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Oh, so as soon as the strike threat comes down you're suddenly all motivated to post, eh?

Go ahead and post that case, but it's waaaayy to late for you.

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