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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:04 pm

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Kast wrote:-I would like everyone who has not yet struck to EXPLICITLY state whether they think we should Block AND Lynch among KK/Kage OR whether it would be better to ignore that and just Lynch the top suspect.
I prefer just going after the top suspect since I do not believe ThAdmiral and KageLord have the same alignment and I more strongly suspect ThAdmiral, but the Kublai Khan/KageLord split is decent too.

In my opinion, the DSK should kill either Friend or Toogeloo.

Jesus SC, still as passive as ever.

Tell me, beyond KK/Kage/Admiral, who is scum?

In other words, beyond the top three suspects and wagon threats today, who is scum and why?
Here's a hint: I have no reason to direct the DSK to players I think are town; therefore, Friend and Toogeloo are two of my suspects. I think Albert B. Rampage has tied himself closely to the latter as well.

Friend is making it look like he's scumhunting without actually scumhunting. I see a bunch of names thrown around in his ISO, but I can't come up with a coherent case on any of them looking at his ISO. The most damning post of his is his #40, where he claims striking DrippingGoofball is a bad idea, yet does it anyway.

Toogeloo's early strike on Day 1 and defending it with fear that the strike wagon will be scum-driven comes off as what would in a normal game be support for a perpetual RVS. He's also starting to develop the same problem as Friend if not a worse one with the lack of real scumhunting.

The big thing that makes me think that Albert B. Rampage is Toogeloo's scumbuddy is an active attempt to halt discussion of him on Day 1. I'm still undecided on ABR's crowning himself King of the Wagons, but regardless of Toogeloo's alignment, it's unnerving too.
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:14 pm

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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:24 pm

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I honestly dislike both wagons. I can see some of the KK arguments, and none of the Kage ones.

Honestly, I'm more up for Admiral than wither of the K's.

But I'd strike KK over Kage.
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:44 pm

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ThAdmiral - Struck KageLord
Kublai Khan - Struck KageLord
curiouskarmadog - Struck KageLord
Kise - No Strike Yet - Leaning KageLord
Friend - No Strike Yet - Leaning KageLord
Plum - No Strike Yet - Leaning KageLord
AlmasterGM - No Strike Yet - Previously voted KageLord
TOTAL = 7 + Hrezs

Hrezs - No Strike Yet - No Preference between ThAdmiral & KageLord

Toogeloo - Struck ThAdmiral
Kast - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
MagnaofIllusion - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
Exe - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
Magua - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
StrangerCoug - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
Lady Lambdadelta - No Strike Yet - Leaning ThAdmiral
TOTAL = 7 + Hrezs

Albert B. Rampage - Struck Kublai Khan
Baby Spice - Struck Kublai Khan
camn - Struck Kublai Khan
KageLord - No Strike Yet - Leaning Kublai Khan
Nachomamma8 - No Strike Yet - Voting Kublai Khan
Bunnylover - No Strike Yet - Leaning Kublai Khan
TOTAL = 6

Is everyone in agreement with this breakdown?
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:26 pm

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If that is true above, doesn't that mean no one will be RB or lynched?
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Post Post #805 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:27 pm

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It means compromise, Bunnylover, compromise.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:14 am

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Seeing the summary I feel there is enough support for a ThAd wagon that I don't regret the following -

/strike - ThAdmiral
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:32 am

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It doesn't look like enough people support a Kage/KK Lynch&Block that it's worth pursuing.

@KK/ABR-
Thanks for putting in that work.

@Kise-
When you're back from V/LA, clarify if you prefer ThAd or Kage. You previously said you're up for striking ThAd, but more recently said you prefer Kage to KK. Do you prefer Kage to ThAd or ThAd to Kage?

@Friend-
You haven't stated a thought on ThAd. Do so. Is he better or worse than Kage?

@Plum-
Please catch up.

@AlmasterGM-
Please clarify, are you opposed to ThAd lynch?

@Hrezs-
Do you mean that ThAd-scum is likely to be unlynchable whereas Kage-scum would be lynchable?

@Nacho-
Please catchup.

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What are your thoughts on ThAd and are you willing to lynch him?
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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:37 am

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@MoI-
Hmm, not sure I agree. Undeclared people need to clarify if ThAd is one of their targets. We don't want to bring two competing wagons to 11 and 6 strikes then DSK suddenly kills the last person before they can place a strike.

To be clear there, if you are a townie, don't place a 6th strike on an uncertain to be lynched player. Doing so creates a significant opportunity for DSK to prevent town from lynching anyone today.
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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:13 am

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Sorry I've been silent. Crazy weekend, and won't have a whole lot of time to post today.

I'll keep an eye on the thread as much as I can today in case there's something urgent.
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:28 am

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StrangerCoug wrote:He's also starting to develop the same problem as Friend if not a worse one with the lack of real scumhunting.
I blame the game. After striking, most of the motivation to hunt is lost as you wait to see how the remaining players pan out their strikes. As Kast put it, a player who strikes is largely ineffective the rest of the day.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:17 am

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That is why it's best to have a coherent plan before striking ><
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:01 am

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@Kast: I knew I forgot to respond to something. I wouldn't be oppose to lynching ThAdmiral, but I would rather lynch KK before him.
I don't have a scum read on ThAdmiral, but nor do I have a town read. What would make me in for his lynch is him /striking Kagelord for the sake of competeing wagon.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:23 am

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Metropolis:
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— The Phantom Pollbooth



KageLord [3] – ThAdmiral, Kublai Khan, curiouskarmadog

Kublai Khan [3] – Albert B. Rampage, Baby Spice, camn

ThAdmiral [2]
– Toogeloo, MagnaofIllusion

Hasn't struck a blow yet
– Everyone else



With 21 alive, it takes 13 strikes to kill, and 9 strikes to send someone to the hospital.

The deadline for Day 3 is April 14th, 7pm PST (10pm EST).

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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:01 am

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Blood, kublai. That is my only desire.
To bathe in the blood of my enemies.

That last post of yours does give me a nice townie vibe, though... I will admit.
Let's see a Thad lynch!
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:05 am

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Does ANYONE have a problem with lynching ThAd?
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:10 am

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UNVOTE
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:15 am

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Ready to strike ThAdmiral when we have the all-clear...
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:22 am

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its all clear.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:28 am

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Strike: ThAdmiral
then.
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:45 am

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ckd wrote:what exactly are you attacking then? my problem with that post is it just seems fluffy...
I'm attacking the fact that when ODM replaced out, he was more concerned with his replacement looking scummy than he was about the town winning.
I can see town replacing out and apologizing to his replacement for leaving him in such a shitty position if he was replacing out close to the lynch.
I can see town replacing out and hoping they don't get blacklisted.
Can I see town replacing out and hoping that everyone else doesn't find the replacement scummy with no "good luck town" or anything like that? Hell no.
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2) When I got my role, and just now to go look what mixmaster did
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:02 pm

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Of the three wagons, I like the idea of lynching ThAd the least. I think he's the least likely of the three to be scum.

But I agree with Toog, after striking there is the tendency to sit back and watch.
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:22 pm

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Why do you think he's least likely to be scum? Blatant self-preservation isn't a scumtell for you?
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:23 pm

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got prodded...hopefully will have time to update tomorrow...neck deep in family/
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:37 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:Why do you think he's least likely to be scum? Blatant self-preservation isn't a scumtell for you?
Self preservation, no. Not in an interesting large. People want to play not be an early lynch.

ThAd seems a little more commited to stances, a little more willing to be noticed. KK seems to have said little and stood for little, and I have a read of KL.

KK and Kl are scum reads for me, ThAd is much more of a neutral one.
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