Iso's continued:
Javert - first gut reaction is jerk.
This is my biggest problem with Javert
Javert wrote:ender241 wrote:If you want to DayVig you should wait until we have pretty much confirmed scum.
I'll find out what he is tonight.
ender241, I hope you're getting around to explaining this.
Why the pressure for a claim? Wasn't the soft claim pretty self explanatory?
Now you have the unvote, while thinking. What were you expecting with this exercise?
Juls - As I said early and reread of Juls nothing really screams town. Plus there is the buddying I talked about with Rhinox which reminded me of our last game together.
There are post that say next to nothing of value (IE: Fluff)
Juls wrote:As for prosaurus playing the newb card. Without discussing his ongoing games, I will just say that it is not a surprise for him to play the newb card, nor do I find it scummy. This is Pro's first non-newbie game. While I don't plan to allow him to get by on that without scum-hunting I'm not going to assume he is auto-scum based on it. It can be intimidating playing with experienced players as a very raw new player.
Talks about the way Me-Weird presents a case, which I don't get.
Most of my feel on Juls is meta/gut. It's also lack of content. She was one of few to make a case on someone else but it was weak.
null leaning scum
me=weird - + points to MW for breaking down the EA case.
This is in regards to TS statement of Ender hinting a PR:
Two things. 1. Why are you so against ender claiming/us finding stuff out about his role? 2. You're implying you would just take him at face value, ignoring possibilities of him being scum. Why are you so convinced of his towniness?
1. Did you read the light claim from ender why or what does a full claim gain the town (2) if he's scum fake claiming/hinting then he outs the real none of this happened soooo how is he scum?
I like your points on NE especially this:
First, he says he thinks the votes on ender are "ridiculous", but later on(when there's a wagon) he votes ender for including possibilities of javert being town, which as I have said multiple times, even though there are more possibilities of him being town, doesn't mean he is. The one where he's scum could still be more probable.
There is some back and forth between NE and MW that I need to read NE before I decide on a few things here:
And I see that the point is a stretch at best as the only thing NE stated was during the rVS stage here:
here
I found something in MW that I believe means he is town. I'm going to hold this one close to the chest.
NE: I don't' care for his vote or reasoning for voting ender. He does explain his reasoning to EA and further reasoning.
Do you think everyone on the Javert wagon is scum? One? more? My biggest complaint would be that I don't see many suspects for various reasons from him.
He thought Oso was scum and that changed. Now he has a list of 4 all of who was on Javert's wagon, but I don't see further reasons (except ender) for suspecting them.
Now he votes for TS.
meh read = null/uncertain
NE: Is your TS vote in conclusion with the Javert wagon. What about Pro?
Oso: I read him as town. This is gut feeling more then anything before I get into his post
I read his RVS as aggressive scum hunting early on, he has good points on why he believes ender is scum and gives good points on his belief in Javert's claim.
This all reads as intuition/reading the game and analyzing the game and players.
read: town
break time.
I took the day off do to lack of sleep. I should finish this today after a nap.
Sarcasm is just a way of saying how stupid you think someone is but in a more polite way.