Open 300 - Mafia on Midol (Town Wins!)

[SocioPath]

This one is for free:

If he's talking about you with his "I like my vote" statement, he's a hypocrite because he says he likes the growing wagon but keeps his vote on another person.

Just stating my opinion. Too busy voting for Papa Zito right now.

1. That second post was pages ago.
2. Troll didn't have a growing wagon on him; it was an offhand remark that I made at his first post.
3. That was the dumbest point anyone has ever made in the history of mafia.

Socio replaces Troll on my scum list. That last post was just awful, horrible.

Oh man, this is gonna be gooooood.

Unvote
Vote: DemonHybrid

Might as well be wagoning yourself.

Translation:

"Oh shit, I forgot to wagon because I was too busy sitting on the fence/creating non-genuine suspicions."

Unvote, Vote: SocioPath

This one is for free:

If he's talking about you with his "I like my vote" statement, he's a hypocrite because he says he likes the growing wagon but keeps his vote on another person.

Just stating my opinion. Too busy voting for Papa Zito right now.

Socio replaces Troll on my scum list. That last post was just awful, horrible.

Just stating my opinion. Too busy voting for Papa Zito right now.

Unvote, Vote: SocioPath

Socio replaces Troll on my scum list.

Too busy voting for Papa Zito right now.

[Thor665]

Super quote wall of things Thor noticed - huzzah!

vote: Xine

She knows what she did

Hi, I'm ducking the Crazy wagon or offering opinions. I make joke! LOL!...LOL!

It's where Dread Cthuhlu lies sleeping.

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

Llama, so you're confirming that it's okay for Cogito to do it... but not Sudo? Got it.

Only have one vote here. That moved CES up a bit though, but I see his early vote as being a minor contribution to the game in getting a wagon kickstarted.

starting to think chk is town afterall here given this last page.

I will give town points to the Llama for going where I would have gone. I don't find CES in the same category of what Sudo is doing at all. I actually found chk functionally town at this stage too, though that opinion took a nose dive later - I'll probably have a quote for that.

Yeah...go back to the newbie queue. You make a great D1 lynch

Fate - you're obvious scum list from earlier also included basically all the players I would describe as "freshman" still. So...why you picking on the little guys? You probably need more capslock, you make more sense with capslock because than I can picture you as a small hairy thing with a mouth, and it makes me smile and listen to you more.

fate/dh chill out imo

I'm Cyberbob, I defuse arguments, I'm town, yo!

@Audience: Does DH posts towaard me read as if he has a geniune scumread of me?

Both of your postings strike me as similar to most interactions with you and Benmage. Null annoyance over something non-game focused. You should refocus since you seem to believe he's the newbie.

I'm calling DH town - his statements are too aggressive, too simplistic, and too ringleader oriented to come across as scum to me, especially considering the playerlist. I find that whole wagon to be made of fail and shame, and those who are on it are now coated in fail and shame. Shamefail!

chkflips sudden spin onto DH is pretty sad too, that's the scummy read I have. Felt like "oh, people are suspecting DH now, huh? I can get in on that" sort of play. I want more of a read there, but he's almost on the scum list. I somewhat agree with those clearing Troll, but...seriously, as though Troll wouldn't go with that angle for town points as a shift? He's not as cleared as people are saying. I actually find Papa Z to be town, his reactions to DH felt the most town-like of anyone, which is just sad again.

I'm calling Socio and Sudo as scum. More to be added as reads become clearer.

Vote: Sudo

Let's team up with the guy who thinks the same way I do for ultimate win via forcing everyone to deal with Thor twice over - a true recipe for awesome.

[DemonHybrid]

What the fuck are you talking about?

I vote PZ.
Troll posts.
I say I don't like Troll's post, but I'm busy voting PZ (hence: I find him scummier)

Some time passes.

You post, top of page seven.

PZ is still who I find scummiest, but you're way scummier than Troll.

You vote, and because my first two posts on page 7 either 1. remind you that you aren't voting me, or 2. push you to vote me regardless, I find that way scummier than anything else, so you've become scummier than PZ. So I vote you.

So I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

[DemonHybrid]

^ was meant for SocioPath.

[Fate]

What was that Fate said pages ago about talking as if the other person is town?

LOL look now he's trying to use MY tells to call people scum while still calling me scum.

Yup three scum all on the Demon wagon. CHOO CHOO LETS GO PAPAZITO HIM OFF A CLIFF SOCIO

[Fate]

@Thor: I pick on the little guys because I'm a bully and an asshole. They're weak and not fit for this game, so I kill them.


*SHRUG*

[DemonHybrid]

What was that Fate said pages ago about talking as if the other person is town?

LOL look now he's trying to use MY tells to call people scum while still calling me scum.

Yup three scum all on the Demon wagon. CHOO CHOO LETS GO PAPAZITO HIM OFF A CLIFF SOCIO

You should stop being annoying.

1. I used it as an ironic example, since that was a big discussion earlier on.

2. By your logic, everything that scum says is wrong, right? Forget about not being genuine, it's all about being wrong, apparently.

Scum sometimes say things that are right, however, not genuine. You expect me to completely disown an obvious tell (acting as if the other person is known town) just because I think you're scum and you used it in this game?

[Fate]

I expect you to die like the scum you are.

Nothing more.

[DemonHybrid]

I don't have an answer for you.

FTFY, broski

[Fate]

For the sake of players I enjoy playing with, I'll stop posting once again.

DH is scum people.

*bows*

Carry on.

[Fate]

1. Nachomamma8
2. Spyrex

!!

[DemonHybrid]

Yeah, no answer still.

You should really stop and preview your posts before you hit submit. Jeez.

[quadz08]

Deleted.
Silly fiance.
~Mod

[singersigner]

Votecount 1.2

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Punkin (1): Sudo_Nym
Cyberbob (0):
AGar (1): Zorblag
DemonHybrid (7): Papa Zito, Fate, Plum, Punkin, Cogito Ergo Sum, SocioPath, chkflip
Oman (0):
Papa Zito (0):
SocioPath (1): DemonHybrid
Sudo_Nym (4): LlamaFluff, Cyberbob, Crazy, Thor665
Zorblag (0):
Thor665 (0):
Plum (1): Nobody Special
Fate (0):
chkflip (0):
Cogito Ergo Sum (0):
Llamafluff (0):
Nikanor (0):
Crazy (1): Nikanor
Nobody Special (0):

Not voting (2): AGar, Oman


Deadline is April 21st, 2011 at 7pm PST.

[LlamaFluff]

Which isn't especially more to go on, given the general silliness of RVS. Were there something worth commenting on, I'd have commented on it.

Well there was the early random-ish crazy wagon, then the seemingly serious DH wagon that took off and had five people (including Fate who counts as three noise wise) which you never commented on. You have the same vote out as before, that serious?

[AGar]

I'm here, not dead.

Reading up now. Whoops.

[Thor665]

If I die night one AGar is scum

[Fate]

^Hider Claim?

"ZOMG ROLEFISHING VOTE: FATE"


"HAH! NOooooooooooooooo I was WAITING for someone to jump on me for that! IT WAS A GAMBIT TO CATCH OPPORTUNISTIC SUCM BECAUSE ONLY SCUM WOULD PUSH SUCH WEAKTELLS LIKE THAT IN A GAME OF THIS CALIBER. TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLL"

^You'd wagon the hell out of me in that situation, right?

SO WHY NOT.

DEMONHYBRID. Its the same damn thing.

[AGar]

4. DemonHybrid - I don't understand his "trap," and his responses from the current wagon are almost stone cold. Scum lean.

Simple. I post an almost noobish statement without an RVS post for my first post. Someone targets it opportunistically and votes me for it. That person is scum for taking advantage of a situation that SHOULDN'T exist in a game with this playerlist.

Everyone else is bandwagoning (which gives nulls, pretty much), but Papa Zito came out of nowhere and voted me for that specific post. Do not like.

Your trap is indeed a scum-trap, in that it was scum-laid. Nice try on a mislynch though.

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@Audience: Does DH posts towaard me read as if he has a geniune scumread of me?

Nope.

Were there something worth commenting on, I'd have commented on it.

I agree with this.


LF doesn't seem as town as people are spouting.

Wagon on DH is good.

I like my vote.

The RVS is not a time frame, but a state of mind.

Wait, what?

Talk about hypocricy.

Um.... people can like one wagon and be more enticed by another? Like you were.

Seriously, you're all over the place here trying to fling suspicion.

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UNVOTE: DemonHybrid

Anybody else think he's acting too freakin'

weird

to be scum? Since when do scum set up "traps" on themselves and then call whomever votes for them scum? I mean, come on. The whole "Haha I caught you SCUM!" made me laugh but I can't imagine any scum in their right mind trying something like that.

And yes, my original vote on DH was a shameless bandwagon vote because I agreed with PZ's minor scum-tell that he pointed out. But since DH apparently dropped a minor scum-tell

intentionally

that makes it

not

scummy.

Your distancing... it is not subtle enough.

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This one is for free:

If he's talking about you with his "I like my vote" statement, he's a hypocrite because he says he likes the growing wagon but keeps his vote on another person.

Just stating my opinion. Too busy voting for Papa Zito right now.

1. That second post was pages ago.
2. Troll didn't have a growing wagon on him; it was an offhand remark that I made at his first post.
3. That was the dumbest point anyone has ever made in the history of mafia.

1. How does that matter?
2. That does not make yours not hypocrisy
3. No, it was actually pretty good.

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Conversely, Thor is scum if he doesn't die N1. :p

VOTE: DemonHybrid

L-2, but you need it scumbag.

[DemonHybrid]

Um.... people can like one wagon and be more enticed by another? Like you were.

Seriously, you're all over the place here trying to fling suspicion.

What other wagon did I like?

Was Fate ever voted?

Was Troll ever voted?

[DemonHybrid]

In fact, was anyone else who I stated suspicion for EVER voted?

This includes Fate, Troll, PZ (other than me) and Socio.

How can you or anyone else call it a "wagon" then?

Is Socio voting for chkflip but stating that my wagon is good the same thing? Yes or no? If yes, what the fuck are you smoking?

[AGar]

Um.... people can like one wagon and be more enticed by another? Like you were.

Seriously, you're all over the place here trying to fling suspicion.

What other wagon did I like?

Was Fate ever voted?

Was Troll ever voted?

Troll was never a wagon, and if you need to pick apart technicalities to get your suspicion spread around, feel free. But the point is, you were voting one person and suspect of another, and then you're calling SP scum for

doing the same thing

.

[DemonHybrid]

Um.... people can like one wagon and be more enticed by another? Like you were.

Seriously, you're all over the place here trying to fling suspicion.

What other wagon did I like?

Was Fate ever voted?

Was Troll ever voted?

Troll was never a wagon, and if you need to pick apart technicalities to get your suspicion spread around, feel free. But the point is, you were voting one person and suspect of another, and then you're calling SP scum for

doing the same thing

.

Wait, what?

Talk about hypocricy.

VOTE: DemonHybrid

I know I said I was going to build a case, and by all means I still will if you'd like me to, but I think this post pretty much sums up DH's scummy attitude/behavior all into one. Not only is Socio's post not hypocritical in any sense, but it's painstakingly obvious that you're stretching your hands as far as you can to try to deflect this wagon off of you.

So, do you like the fact that he completely ignored the last 6 pages just to handwave himself onto the

growing wagon

? Or that he said he liked the

wagon

even though his vote was completely elsewhere and he forgot about it?

Like I said, I don't give a fuck if I get lynched. But I swear to god, if everyone forgets about his posts on this page and lets him slide, I'll be more than angry.

No, it is not the same fucking thing.

[DemonHybrid]

A WAGON has more than one person voting for the same person.

A SUSPICION is when someone suspects someone else, WAGON or NOT.

I voted for PZ but had other SUSPICIONS.

Socio was voting for someone else but said he liked a WAGON.

Why the fuck do I need to explain this like 50 TIMES

[Sudo_Nym]

Before I start, I'd like to point out that Oman has yet to post. The game only started yesterday, so I'm not super worried yet, but I'd like an awareness made.

Anyway, let's take a look at this!

Super quote wall of things Thor noticed - huzzah!

vote: Xine

She knows what she did

Hi, I'm ducking the Crazy wagon or offering opinions. I make joke! LOL!...LOL!

The crazy wagon was an RVS wagon. It bears no commenting, as I told cyberbob; and as you'll notice, it's already dissipated, more or less. I especially don't get why you'd try to pin anything on me based on my first post in RVS with what's obviously a joke vote, anyway.

It's where Dread Cthuhlu lies sleeping.

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge.

Um, what? That was a direct response, still in RVS, to someone asking about Troll's signature.

Llama, so you're confirming that it's okay for Cogito to do it... but not Sudo? Got it.

Only have one vote here. That moved CES up a bit though, but I see his early vote as being a minor contribution to the game in getting a wagon kickstarted.

starting to think chk is town afterall here given this last page.

I will give town points to the Llama for going where I would have gone. I don't find CES in the same category of what Sudo is doing at all. I actually found chk functionally town at this stage too, though that opinion took a nose dive later - I'll probably have a quote for that.

Sudo may not have made any super impact yet, but CES hasn't, either. The fact that you'd try to call me out for not being super serious in RVS, while be fine with CES doing the same, speaks of tunnel vision, at the very best. I won't bother quoting the rest of your post, largely because it's ridiculous. "Shamefail," seriously? The whole thing reads like you're trying to make the facts fit the circumstances, rather than the other way around, and it's not a good place to be.

Also, this:

Oh man, this is gonna be gooooood.

Unvote
Vote: DemonHybrid

Might as well be wagoning yourself.

Translation:

"Oh shit, I forgot to wagon because I was too busy sitting on the fence/creating non-genuine suspicions."

Unvote, Vote: SocioPath

Translation: "Oh, shit, I need to deflect suspicion! Who can I target?" For a man who said himself that he's fine with being lynched if it generates discussion, you're doing an awful lot to counterwagon anybody who hones into your view.