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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 2:18 am

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I think Buttons is reading the game, I guess.

But things like Xine, Conspiracy seem to slide gracelessly past him, like ships in the night. This isn't even a tunnel. This is a wet blanket over his head.

Buttons, commentary on what's going on right now, and some votes that do important things would be nice.

Xine - town or scum, and why?

Conspiracy - Impressions? You reamed MME pretty hard for lurk/flaking, that slot hasn't been THAT much better until now.

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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:40 am

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Sorry for the delay, had unexpected business yesterday.


first my current readlist:
town: GreyICE, TBM
almost town: Mute
...
scummy: Llamarble, Xine, PR/ConS, Hiraki, MME

I am quite comfortable with my town-list (ICE/TBM): I think GreyICE is self-explanatory, I don't think we should consider a scumgambit like he supposedly pulled off with Krazy while there are other (an quite too many of them) options.
TBM's town-read is basically based on his GreyICE-vote when there was the Krazy/GreyICE-issue. as I pointed out here, Krazy-scum was indeed more likely to be scum with the evidence available at the time and I think if TBM was scum he would have immediately bussed as soon as he saw the Krazy-wagon gaining speed (it really looked like it would go to lynch immediately).

Mute: while I am not so sure as GreyICE, his point does make sense to me. There isn't actually a lot more to say about mute.

After those town reads is the point where it get's fuzzy. Everyone else looks scummy and every time I reread I get different vibes. Of course they can't all be scum, so I must admit that I'm currently a little lost on individual reads.

I think another approach is more useful: team analysis.
I think the following make good scumteams at this point:
Xine/Llamarble
Hiraki/ConS
MME/Xine (this is based mostly on the fact that Xine spent a lot of effort to get MME replaced, which could indicate a help-in-survival.)

the scumteams I cannot see are:
LLamarble/ConS (based mostly on LLamarble's attack on pappums)
Xine/Hiraki (based mostly on the Hiraki sheep of the first Xine-wagon D3)


I think at this point, what we need most is a flip in order to establish a base-line.
I don't think dragging this confusion on is going to help us in the long run.

therefore:

I will hammer Xine in my next post
(probably tomorrow). If anyone has anything to say, speak now or forever hold your peace.
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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:49 am

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Nath have you considered all possible combinations for scum-teams? I don't see a llama/Hiraki team, nor xine/MME (or in this case CS), nor MME(now CS)/Hiraki.

Maybe I'm talking out my ass with that.. but I want to re-read D2 to try and find out who would be scum with Llama. I am hesitant to re-read the
entire
game with a xine-town and xine-scum mindset to try and see whether she is in fact a VT or scum, and/or who her partner would/could be with the mindset of her being scum.

I still say Llama is the best lynch, if not today then god damn it D4 better see him hanging in the gallows.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:18 pm

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Mute, are you tunneling?
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so." - Mark Twain
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 3:36 pm

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Xine are you daft?
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:09 pm

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You have been doing almost nothing all game except for voting and attacking Llamarble. I don't deny he seems scummy, but tunnel vision is not the most useful thing. Who do you think his scum buddy is? Why?
As far as your re-read quandary, I'll tell you this, do your re-read with the frame of mind that I am a VT, save yourself time.
as far as calling me names, could you skip it next time, thanks.
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:14 pm

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If you posed that in the form of a question/request and not statement, sure.
But sure I'll do my best to not offend.
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:04 pm

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Xine wrote:You have been doing almost nothing all game except for voting and attacking Llamarble. I don't deny he seems scummy, but tunnel vision is not the most useful thing.
Why is this the first time you are saying he is scummy? And for what?
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:17 am

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ok, there isn't really happening anything new.
so, as promised
vote: Xine
.

@Mute:
I did consider teams which I found particularly likely and teams I found particularly unlikely.
you do know that ConS replaced pappums and not MME, right?
I can see a Xine/MME team quite well, I'm neutral on LLama/Hiraki and MME/Hiraki.
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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:30 am

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Nathanael wrote:@Mute:
I did consider teams which I found particularly likely and teams I found particularly unlikely.
you do know that ConS replaced pappums and not MME, right?
I can see a Xine/MME team quite well, I'm neutral on LLama/Hiraki and MME/Hiraki.
I'll wait for the mod scene to do the read-through as you just hammered, but that was just me having who replaced who slip my mind.
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:46 pm

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That'll do, pig. That'll do.

Still no luck on the MME replacement...hopefully I can get one during this night phase...

Vote Count Final

Day 3



Xine
(5): Hiraki, GreyICE, ConSpiracy, Llamarble, Nathanael,
My Milked Eek
(2): Xine, TheButtonmen,
Llamarble
(1): Mute,
Hiraki
(0):
ConSpiracy
(0):
Mute
(0):
GreyICE
(0):
Nathanael
(0):
TheButtonmen
(0):

No Lynch
(0):

Not Voting
: My Milked Eek,

With
9
alive it takes
5
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 3 is
PENDING
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Note: Weekends are my busiest time. Expect me to not post much from Friday to Sunday.

Do not expect me to play to a meta.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:49 pm

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At last, the third round of debate came to a close. It was final: Xine would swing from the gallows.

Sadly, he had no relation to the evildoers.


Xine
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Vanilla Townie
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Lynched
Day 3.

Night begins, the thread is locked.
Deadline
for Night 3 is
PENDING
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:20 pm

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Xtoxm has agreed to replace My Milked Eek! I will update this as soon as possible letting everyone know when the Night will end.
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:35 am

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Night 1 will end in 24 hours. Please have all actions in by that time.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:56 am

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These mornings are beginning to feel repetitive. Once again, a friend was missing from the town. Hopefully, the mafia would be stopped before it was too late...


GreyICE
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Town Doctor
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Killed
Night 3.

Day has begun, thread is unlocked.
Deadline
for Day 4 is
10:00 AM EST 4/26/11
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 4:50 am

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My bad at lynching Xine. At least we lost a very scummy player. So the GreyICE kill was expected and thanks of the delay of it we know that there is a roleblocker in the game. On the other hand we may find some leads to scum trying to attack GreyICE for his "ambiguity" with the claim. New assigment: skim the thread for GreyICE attacks.
Xtoxm, have you read the thread already or didn't you make it to the end, yet?
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 5:23 am

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I'D LIKE TO SOLVE THE PUZZLE

VOTE: XTOXM

SCUMBUDDY: NATHANAEL

Though Hiraki could replace one of them.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:34 am

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ConSpiracy wrote:My bad at lynching Xine. At least we lost a very scummy player. So the GreyICE kill was expected and thanks of the delay of it we know that there is a roleblocker in the game. On the other hand we may find some leads to scum trying to attack GreyICE for his "ambiguity" with the claim. New assigment: skim the thread for GreyICE attacks.
Xtoxm, have you read the thread already or didn't you make it to the end, yet?
Would you like to give me a brief summary of events?
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:49 am

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Between exams and this night lasting approximately seven months I've completely lost interest / track of this game, more posts to come probaly in about 36ish hours after I've had a chance to sit down and re-read / get back into the game.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:56 am

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Xtoxm wrote:
ConSpiracy wrote:My bad at lynching Xine. At least we lost a very scummy player. So the GreyICE kill was expected and thanks of the delay of it we know that there is a roleblocker in the game. On the other hand we may find some leads to scum trying to attack GreyICE for his "ambiguity" with the claim. New assigment: skim the thread for GreyICE attacks.
Xtoxm, have you read the thread already or didn't you make it to the end, yet?
Would you like to give me a brief summary of events?
I will under three conditions:
1. You won't whine about it being from my perspective. I made it, so I am not going to make it solely informational.
2. Don't expect it either today or tomorrow. At least friday it will come up.
3. You are going to participate in this game, at least more than the last game we played together in.

Llamarble. I like how you try to fit the Xtoxm-piece in your place. I also like how you try to make a statement in all caps, as if we are bound to believe it then, especially if you made no effort to back it up.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:08 am

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He's trying to pull a "Grey did it, Neruz did it, Q.E.D. I am town cuz I'm doing it."
>_>
BTW nice job just throwing Hiraki in there as well cuz why the fuck not right? Not like you've given a reason for it. Nor for anything in your post.
I reserve the right to gloat if I am right about Scumarble.
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thank you for replacing in XToxm, have you gotten anything you can add to the table? (Judging by your asking of a quick summary it's hard to say whether that's true or not. =S)
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:42 am

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ConSpiracy wrote:
Xtoxm wrote:
ConSpiracy wrote:My bad at lynching Xine. At least we lost a very scummy player. So the GreyICE kill was expected and thanks of the delay of it we know that there is a roleblocker in the game. On the other hand we may find some leads to scum trying to attack GreyICE for his "ambiguity" with the claim. New assigment: skim the thread for GreyICE attacks.
Xtoxm, have you read the thread already or didn't you make it to the end, yet?
Would you like to give me a brief summary of events?
I will under three conditions:
1. You won't whine about it being from my perspective. I made it, so I am not going to make it solely informational.
2. Don't expect it either today or tomorrow. At least friday it will come up.
3. You are going to participate in this game, at least more than the last game we played together in.

Llamarble. I like how you try to fit the Xtoxm-piece in your place. I also like how you try to make a statement in all caps, as if we are bound to believe it then, especially if you made no effort to back it up.
#1 is obvious. Half the reason for asking you is to help me get a read on you. Vote count analysis indicates to me that one out of you and Hiraki is mafia. The other half, of course, is to give me the general idea of what's happened. It's not as easy to notice things when reading through. In particular, a list of who's claim what would be nice.

#2 A fair compromise.

#3 As we're in Day 3 here, you'll probably find i'm more active. I generally lurk on Day 1.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:46 am

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thank you for replacing in XToxm, have you gotten anything you can add to the table?
The only thing that has immediately stood out to me from my skimming is the way CS's predecessors and Hiraki's votes have fallon on wagons, I think one of the two is likely mafia. I will work on reading the thread in full and forming actual reads in the next few days.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:51 am

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Lolololol Xtoxm, why not immediately SHOW us those votecount analysis, instead of just spouting your ideas about us.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:54 am

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@Conspiracy: What is your read on Hiraki?

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