Newbie 1074(Game Over|Scum Win!!!)

[desiderata]

Hoppster, you just lied through your teeth. Pine, he's manipulating you by saying you're innocent and pointing in my direction, since you're already suspicious. He's good, but just as you were noticing his manipulation yesterday, he comes out with this. Or you're in it with him.

Hoppster is scum, people. His results are bogus. Seriously. He just made a bet that there's no cop.

[Hoppster]

Nice try, scum.

Is your scumbuddy the one who counterclaims me, then? That makes our life a lot easier.

Also, note how she doesn't vote me, even though if she's town I

have

to be scum.


No need to rush this lynch, we have time to catch her scumbuddy.

[Pine]

Oooh, ouch. See, Des, I was waiting for your post to make a definitive decision on Hoppster. But yeah. You done fucked up. This:

Also, note how she doesn't vote me, even though if she's town I

have

to be scum.

Hoppster, I salute you on spotting this. I was waiting for it too.

VOTE: Actual vote reserved to prevent quick-hammering. Gonna be Des though.

OKAY!

This Town-confirms Hoppster and Scum-confirms Des. I know I'm Town, so that narrows it down to kr0b or Silver as the scumbuddy. I'm willing to bet on Silver, due to my early game suspicions, the degree to which he took advantage of being on peoples' Town list, and process of elimination. kr0b is slightly cleared for not falling into my trap.

Hoppster, I really don't see much reason to prolong this. We're in lynch-or-lose, and I've got solid reads on who both of our scum are.

Setup:

desiderata

Mafia <Goon or RB>

Silver1337

Mafia <Goon or RB>

kr0b

Town <Vanilla or Doctor>

Pine

Vanilla Townie

Hoppster,

Town Cop (or brilliantly gambitting Vanilla)

Hazard with a Glove,

Vanilla Townie

Nachomamma8,

Vanilla Townie

drewoftherushes,

Vanilla Townie

1joe60,

Vanilla Townie

[Hoppster]

Fine. I'm not QUITE as sold on the Verbs/kr0b slot as town due to its visibility issues, but I am similarly encouraged by the lack of a vote when you voted me.

I'm likely dead tonight SO DON'T SCREW UP TOMORROW AND RUIN MY HARD WORK.

[desiderata]

I was asleep when pine voted. He'd have taken me for scum, on top of that. Ok. Here we go. Tags is a bitch on a phone but whatevs

VOTE: Hoppster

[desiderata]

I'm on a phone. Tags suck. But there. Pine, I hope you're scum, otherwise you're just obnoxious town.

[Pine]

Actually, I'd seriously consider NKing someone else, Hoppster. Fishing for a Doc might be a better gambit on their part, because if they go for you and a Doc exists, they're screwed.

In Newbie games there is four possibilities for setups.

1^st Possibility~ 1xGoon 1x Roleblocker 7xTownies

2^nd Possibility~ 1x Goon 1x Roleblocker 1xDoc 1xCop 5xTownies
3^rd Possibility~ 2xGoon 1xCop 6xTownies

4^th Possibility~ 2xGoon 1xDoc 6xTownies

Either you're the only PR and scum have none, or there's a Doctor out there. Doc needs to protect you. There's going to be four of us going into the night phase. You, me, Silver and kr0b. Setup 3, they should kill you and be done with it, because they'll know for certain there's no Doc. But setup 2...that means that of the unknown roles, which consist of me and one of {kr0b, Silver}, one is a Doctor. I'd kill one of us and RB the other to be absolutely certain you don't get doctored.

If they don't get the Doctor, then you're going to survive anyway, Hoppster.

So chin up, Billy buddy. You may endgame yet!

@Des: Too little, too late. Real Town in your position would be desperate, because getting mislynched would mean total loss. See Hoppster's desperation for a good example of Town in the crosshairs during LyLo.

Also, I'm cleverly disruptive Town, intended to be obnoxious to scum. Notice that it has cleared two innocents and helped damn one scum. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. That's what Vanilla Townies like me are FOR. Scumhunting and dying to give Town information. Hoppster played his PR perfectly by flying under the radar until it was time to give the Town critical information, then blitzing his way into a probable NK.

[Pine]

Also, Hoppster, if we lynch Des and she flips as a Roleblocker, we'll know the setup and know with certainty that you're going to survive. Remaining scum will have no choice but to go Doc-fishing.

[Hoppster]

If des is a roleblocker, a mass claim will win the day for us.

One person claims doc, des roleblocker flip confirms the doc claim (presuming no counter-claim shenanigans).

That means 1 scum, 3 confirmed townies.

That's game!

[desiderata]

Pine, are you in on this? Do you really think I can do anything else? Hoppster is lying in such an extravagant manner because he's scum. THERE WILL BE NO TOMORROW FOR TOWN IF YOU LYNCH ME, and you guys are planning on night actions. It's such a joke, and there's nothing I can do. I got the impression yesterday that hoppster was manipulating you, and I said so. I think so again today. This style of play is stupid - you're getting carried away by emotion.

So, think. You say you think hoppster is manipulating you. You vote for him. THERE'S NO QUICKLYNCH. And what did hoppster need to get ready for? Results. If you're town, pine, then he was thinking whether to clear you or someone else, TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE MORE MANIPULATIVE. Of course hell point to me. You seem to be easy to convince. You get so caught up about what "scum" would do! Read what drew wrote on day 2, knowing now that he's town. Think.

[kr0b]

Vote: Des

[Hoppster]

So, think. You say you think hoppster is manipulating you. You vote for him. THERE'S NO QUICKLYNCH.

Well, obviously. You and your scumbuddy didn't post inbetween Pine voting and unvoting (or kr0b is at least a rather sensible scumbuddy).

[kr0b]

A cop comes out, no counter-claim and says that Des is scum. It's pretty concrete as far as I'm concerned.

[kr0b]

And for the record, I'm doc. I protected Pine last night phase and didn't manage a protect on the first night phase as I missed the deadline.

[Hoppster]

COOLBEANZ.

That's the game basically in the bag then. I hope Silver has a nice time pondering over who to NK.

[kr0b]

He could save some time and tell me who he's going to target so I know who to protect...

[Pine]

I'm ready.

VOTE: desiderata

For the record, I have a doubt. But the odds of this all playing out and Des not being scum are acceptably small. Two scumtraps in a row and Hoppster and kr0b both stepping into Town traps...yeah. That could be brilliant scumming, and both Hoppster and kr0b are fully capable of that, but I'm willing to take the odds.

Hammer. Game over if I'm wrong. Probable game won if I'm right.

[Hoppster]

GG, scum.

[kr0b]

[Hoppster]

*patiently awaits Mod for flip of Great Justice*

[desiderata]

OMG Pine you suck.

Hoppster, you were awesome. Congrats.

[desiderata]

And drew, we tried, at least we know that

[desiderata]

kr0b, you had me going there for a second. Nice playing to Pine's ego. And silver's incompetence, I guess. Shucks. Pine being town makes it even less likely that I'll play another game in this site.

[kr0b]

It's all down to Hopps on this one, I barely had a chance to play at all in this. What I did play I enjoyed thoroughly.

[Hoppster]

Hoppster, you were awesome. Congrats.

Ta.

/dances


I'll get some thoughts up on the game later once the mod confirms the result (and I've caught up in my other games).