Open 279 - Rusty Guillotine Mafia - Game Over!

GreyICE · Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:19 am

VP Baltar wrote:It didn't go well because you are pig-headed. Like I said, end of game will vindicate me so you may as well start tucking your tail between your legs for post game.

'kay.

I don't negotiate with terrorists either.

VP Baltar · Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:21 am

I'm uncertain about if he's scum or not. I find it hard to believe that a scum would be so blatant in pushing a bad case and exposing himself at this stage when the town has fully imploded and skating by is the much easier road. That being said, if VV isn't scum then GreyICE almost certainly is.

Speaking of which: VV - What do you think about what I've said regarding LuckayLuck?

Fate · Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:24 am

You wouldn't flip till after lylo if you're town. Why WOULDN'T scum be pushing a mislynch this hard today?

VP Baltar · Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:38 am

Fair point.

Regardless, I'm still quite certain about LL. We only get one lynch per day and that's the one that needs to happen. Did you look at what I asked you to look at?

Fate · Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:41 am

Not yet.

chesskid3 · Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:22 am

LL dies at deadline sweet

Vigilante Ventriloquist · Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:47 pm

Ummm...I'm gonna be honest here; on my first time through the new pages, I thought Fate had just completely lost it and given up. I'm still not entirely sure that didn't happen.

Rather than comb through the last 10 pages and spam the thread more than it's already being spammed (and be stuck reading those pages again), I'm just going to address the important points as I remember them.

Point 1: Fate
There is a huge inconsistency going on in his play right now. He's been screaming and shouting that he won't be lylo mislynch fodder and that if we're going to lynch him, it has to be today. Then he goes and joins every wagon that springs up to try to get someone other than himself lynched. Looks like his I'm-being-lynched-today-or-not-at-all thing goes out the window when he's actually in danger of lynch.

Point 2: LuckayLuck
LL is the player I've had a town read on for the longest this game. That being said, it's interesting to note that Fate's breakdown seemed to really go into overdrive mode when chesskid called him and LL scum. I still don't think LL is scum and I'm not entirely sure LL-Fate interactions make sense if they're both scum (the one-way pseudo-mason relationship from LL's side that suddenly reversed and Fate accepting it but keeping him at arm's length). Overall, LL stays as town for now.

Point 3: VPB
If Fate is town, VPB is scum. I can not at the moment fathom that Fate is town.

Point 4: replacements
So apparently we had 2 replacements come in, read a few pages, throw down a vote, read more of the thread, and not have their reads change at all. Not sure what to make of that. I'm more inclined to call GreyICE scum here out of the two, just because the delayed flips with potential VPB-town would make pushing a mislynch low-risk. Then again, I don't actually remember who either replacement replaced and I'm too tired/lazy to go back and check.

Point 5: Equinox
...has been looking town the past several pages.

Point 6: AGM
Dude, this point isn't about you; it's addressed to you: What the hell are you doing?

@chesskid
Look back at Fate-LL interactions. They would be fucking weird if Fate and LL are both scum.

I think that's everything important.

VP Baltar · Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:52 pm

:O that was actual good posting. In this game. I'm in shock.

Fate · Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:53 pm

Yeah wow, AGM actually put forth EFFORT?

HOLY FUCK

GreyICE · Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:54 pm

That was VV you dip

VP Baltar · Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:54 pm

That was VV

Fate · Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:54 pm

FIEAUIHEUISFHQUIAHWEF
PGFIOUEAGIOAH
HGF
SJHFIAQEHFIH

F
UCK YOU
AVATARS

FUCKIIN HELL

I SHOULDA KNOWN BETTER THAN TO THINK AGM WAS COMPETENT

LuckayLuck · Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:56 pm

Equinox wrote:LuckayLuck, how caught up were you in the thread when you voted crypto?

And yeah, this question needs answering, please.

all the way

GreyICE · Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:56 pm

Wait, so chesskid who sheeped the LL wagon is more likely to be town than me who started a brand new wagon.

So the scumteam is LuckayLuck+Fate? Or I just am quixotic scum?

GreyICE · Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:57 pm

Like really, what's the theory. If both candidates are scum, then... I'm town... duh...

If they're not, why wouldn't I sheep a wagon?

But both are town...

Equinox · Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:57 pm

LuckayLuck wrote:all the way

...yet you somehow missed that chesskid3 replaced crypto?

LuckayLuck · Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:01 pm

Equinox wrote:
LuckayLuck wrote:all the way
...yet you somehow missed that chesskid3 replaced crypto?

...

yes.

not sure how that's relevant, but I did know crypto and maemuki were being replaced out and I knew some people were coming in and I voted crypto because I wanted to before anyways, didn't really care who replaced him

LuckayLuck · Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:03 pm

LuckayLuck wrote:
Unvote. Vote: Shadow Dancer

(L-1)

I will throw caution to the winds and trust in crypto & fate. I begrudgingly give Jarti credit on having a 'note to self' on Shadow Dancer's shady activities.

Post #1048 of Shadow Dancer's actually simply makes no sense. It has no townie flow to it.

LuckayLuck wrote:
LuckayLuck wrote:The mafia team is Shadow Dancer, zoraster, and Jarti. Bam.
I'm thinking I'm actually only 2 for 3 here.

btw, the reason I corrected myself here is because I figured one of SD or Jarti was the scum (but not both)

LuckayLuck · Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:05 pm

LuckayLuck wrote:
zoraster wrote:
LuckayLuck wrote:
LuckayLuck wrote:The mafia team is Shadow Dancer, zoraster, and Jarti. Bam.
I'm thinking I'm actually only 2 for 3 here.

That's good news for you, because I'm thinking it's only one of Shadow Dancer/Zoraster.

If there's one person to lynch preferably, it's Jarti for me. He never addressed his change in attitude to me during day one, and his re-change on day two, despite it being a sticking point.

errrr, never mind. It was because of this.

I'm doing a re-read of myself. etc.

whatever. My tone might sound scummy. I've bounced around a lot of wagons. But when it came down to it, I put shadow dancer at L-1 and stayed on it.

that's my self-defense.

Equinox · Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:07 pm

Relevant when I'm trying to figure out if you're scum skimming or town who just missed a detail.

So, why crypto at that point? (If you made a case before, just humor me with a summary or something.)

Preview edit: Uh, that... was out of the blue. Okay.

LuckayLuck · Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:12 pm

why crypto:

he didn't vote shadow dancer.

chesskid3 · Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:58 pm

never said fate LL scum together
one of them is scum. I think it's LL, but fuck it I don't really care at this point but LL dies first.

VP Baltar · Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2011 1:26 am

I think the real question is, why is LL isoing himself when deadline is approaching and we need to figure out who the scum are?

Equinox · Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:22 am

That's not a crime, VP Baltar. Post 2072 is, though.

VP Baltar · Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Fri Apr 15, 2011 5:19 am

No, I'm tired of pointing out obvious motivations to people in this game. There is no reason to be looking over your own responses to see if they make sense if you're town. Town's motivation in this situation is to scumhunt effectively. Therefore, you must be looking at other people and determining who is scum. LL has put in no effort today to do so and is now looking at himself to evaluate the believability of his past responses.

tl;dr - if you're not looking at motivations, then you're not scumhunting.

What do you feel is wrong about me pointing this out to you, Equi? I mean, other than it's obvious and I shouldn't have to?