Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)
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VasudeVa Mafia Scum
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Bah fuck, didn't get scum. I thought for sure NS was scum when I replaced in. I suppose I'm reading the game then.
I'm gonna try something new. Give me a bullet points of what happened so far to aid me in my reading. Help me get a read on you. Thx.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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- Day one- Twistedspoon spams scummy posts and defends himself with WIFOM.
- He claims, turns out Hazard also apparently has the same role, but at the same time Amrun's PM says TS's role is scum.
- We lynch Twistedspoon... he's not scum.
- Day two- Nobody died overnight.
- Hazard reveals he visited Kalofer and this gave them a QT, and Kalofer had the same role as Hazard.
- Kalofer visited me and got 'Action failed', I part-claim.
- Stels claims to be a Candy Animal - with no goodies.
- I propose a plan, gets little support, we lynch Stels... he's not scum.
Just quoting to make sure you don't miss this.Hoppster wrote:Hazard, did you visit me?Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I'm still at a loss why no one visited me n1. Seems like a no-brainer... I don't think anyone did.-
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We have nothing to suggest that you'd know if people visited you yet, but that's a good point...Amrun wrote:I'm still at a loss why no one visited me n1. Seems like a no-brainer... I don't think anyone did.
Ummm, why?Hazard with a Glove wrote:I targeted kalofer.
Amrun, you should have brought this up before/shoved it in our faces more explicitly if you did and we ignored you. >>Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Idk if I would know or not, but no one claimed to have visited me.
I didn't mention it d2 because i didn't want to plant ideas. I wanted to see what Hazard would say.
Then when he claimed Kalofer I didn't know what to think of that. And Kalofer claimed you and I was just like "..."-
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ToastyToast Mafia Scum
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@vezok: there is no way I'm agreeing to a mass claim. Why do you keep role fishing? isn't it obvious that it fucked us up in that two Zoo visitors are now dead?"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Zyrconium Goon
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Scummiest person + scummy role = not scum, sadface.
Summary as best I can(dropping everything at 1 vote for less spammyness.):
Late RVS
After TS DefendsCharlie wrote:Vote count 1
Twistedspoon (3) - Hoppster, Zyrconium, Hazard with a Glove
Zyrconium (3) - Stels, ToastyToast, mb53
Kalofer (2) - Morthas, crazypianist1116
Amrun (2) - Nobody Special, vezokpiraka
After TS claimsCharlie wrote:Vote count 2
Twistedspoon (6) - Hoppster, Zyrconium, Hazard with a Glove, Morthas, vezokpiraka, Kalofer
Zyrconium (3) - Stels, ToastyToast, mb53
<snip>Charlie wrote:Vote count 3
Zyrconium (4) - Stels, ToastyToast, mb53, Twistedspoon
Twistedspoon (2) - Hoppster, Hazard with a Glove
I believe this was the first count after Amrun claimed "bad people want our goodies", this was badly phrased... and badly interpreted.
<snip>Charlie wrote:Vote count 10
Twistedspoon (5) - Amrun, Nobody Special, Hazard with a Glove, Hoppster, vezokpiraka
Zyrconium (3) - Stels, mb53, ToastyToast
Hazard with a Glove (2) - crazypianist1116, Morthas
And 4 days later:Charlie wrote:Vote count 13
Twistedspoon (7) - Amrun, Nobody Special, Hazard with a Glove, Hoppster, vezokpiraka, ToastyToast, Kalofer
Hazard with a Glove (3) - crazypianist1116, Morthas, Stels
Twistedspoon, Zoo Visitor, lynched Day 1
Beyond that there was a lot of bickering and wagons going every which way(by which I mean a 3-4 way tie that stagnated for like 10 days)Charlie wrote:No one was killed N1
Charlie wrote:Vote Count 16
Hazard With a Glove (3) - Morthas, crazypianist1116, Stels
Nobody Special (2) - mb53, Kalofer
Morthas (2) - vezokpiraka, Hazard With a Glove
And then 3 days after the 1st vote on Stels(since when I unvoted him), Stels was dead.Charlie wrote:Vote Count 17
Hazard With a Glove (4) - Morthas, crazypianist1116, Stels, Nobody Special
Nobody Special (3) - mb53, Zyrconium, Kalofer
Morthas (2) - vezokpiraka, Hazard With a Glove
Zyrconium (2) - ToastyToast, Amrun
Fuck, wall post.... this is why I was so tempted to ignore VV's call for summaries.Charlie wrote:Nobody Special is being replaced as per his request.
crazypianist1116 has picked up his prod.
Vote Count 22
Stels (7) - Hoppster, crazypianist1116, Amrun, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka, Zyrconium, Kalofer
Hazard With a Glove (2) - Morthas, Nobody Special
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crazypianist1116 (1) - Stels
Stels, Muscial Monkey (Vanilla Candy Animal) in posession ofNo Goodies,lynched Day 2-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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So what are your conclusions from that, Zyrconium?
I may try to do some VCA in a bit, but I've never done it before so I'm a little nervous to screw up.-
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Hazard with a Glove Goon
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Vote: Hoppster
I would have tried to wagon him before Stels died, but you all had to go kill him before I got on.
No, Hoppster I did not target you. Hoppster is obviously trying to get all of the Zoo Visitors to use their ability on one person. And if he does the ability he says he does, then it would be a waste anyway/ Just think about it. He wants all the possible town PRs to use their PR in a hope that they'll get something, but most likely not. It'd be stupid to do that for 2 or 3 nights straight and even not getting anything. And he can just say, "Oh well I wasn't ready to not use the ability."
I visited Zyrconium. And I did get soemthing.I have not yet begun to procrastinate-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Why did you decide to visit Zyrconium?
Why didn't you target me either night?-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Zyrconium, were you aware that you were stolen from?-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Why would you choose at random?
Why not choose me, whom you know has candy?
Did you have any thoughts about Zyrconium's alignment before this? Do you have any now?-
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ToastyToast Mafia Scum
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@Hazard: If Hoppster wants all Zoo Visitors to target someone, then why does he want himself targeted? May just be a phrasing issue
waiting for some more input from people"A train robbery is where you take a train to your destination, make your move, and take a train back, right?"-Isaac
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Hazard with a Glove Goon
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I could use information on everyone, but I can't visit everyone. Solution, random.
What is it with you and not being chosen? If I know your role, why do I need to visit you (not saying I know his role for sure, just what he's told us). I'm not doing this just so get candy, it's the information.
Before this, not really. Now my best guess is Candy Animal.
@Toasty Because he may have the ability to make our power roles (if used on him, at least) null and void.I have not yet begun to procrastinate-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Do you think Zyrconium is town, then, Hazard?-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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So do we think candy animals can't be scum?
I am inclined to think so, but if we are wrong, we might be truly fucked.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Also, I'm fairly certain VV just committed Amished's scumtell. Not sure if troll.-
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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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WTF HAZARD
I SPECIFICALLY ASKED YOU TO TARGET ME
EGEJGOIRJGO
I DIDN'T HIDE MYSELF LAST NIGHT AND YOU PROBABLY COULD HAVE CONFIRMED ME AS TOWN
AND NOW I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO EACH NIGHT NOW PREVENT THE SCUM KILLING ME
AND YOU'RE LIKE "LOL YOU WERE TRYING TO TRICK ME"
SERIOUSLY, WTF?! >>
Aaaand this is all BS. As I've said, I didn't hide last night, and the plan was that you'd only need to do it for the one night if you did what I said, the stuff about every night was to throw the scum off-scent. But no, you decided that you were just going to go with random.org or whatever.Hazard with a Glove wrote:I would have tried to wagon him before Stels died, but you all had to go kill him before I got on.
No, Hoppster I did not target you. Hoppster is obviously trying to get all of the Zoo Visitors to use their ability on one person. And if he does the ability he says he does, then it would be a waste anyway/ Just think about it. He wants all the possible town PRs to use their PR in a hope that they'll get something, but most likely not. It'd be stupid to do that for 2 or 3 nights straight and even not getting anything. And he can just say, "Oh well I wasn't ready to not use the ability."
I visited Zyrconium. And I did get soemthing.
And what makes you think Zoo Visitors are all the possible Town PRs? The reason I wanted ALL ZOO VISITORS to target me was because it was painfully obvious to me that as soon as I suggested the plan, if they weren't going to kill me (and I didn't think they were going to kill me) that they would be killing a Zoo Visitor.
And trying to wagon me? What's this?
Uh-huh, here was your vague post opposing the Stels wagon without addressing my case AT ALL, and then your vague non-specific attack followed by NO VOTE which now lets you say "WELL I MEANT HOPPSTER". No, that's not going to work, sorry.Hazard with a Glove wrote:Sorry, pretty busy irl, with Track in full swing and lots of projects in school etc. I'm just checking up really.
But I', apposed to a Stels lynch, I'm really not convinced and nothing he's done seems damning. IMO, I'm thinking scum is on this wagon, cause I really haven't seen much reason at all for this.
Your reason provided for targetting Kalofer is also a steaming heap of BS.
WAIT THAT SEEMS AWFULLY FAMILIARHazard with a Glove wrote:Because I didn't understand how he knew TS was town and I figured it give me information.
MMHHM, THOUGHT SO.Hazard with a Glove wrote:Next, don't lynch TS. Just don't, it WILL be a mislynch.
So how come you had mysterious reasons for thinking Twistedspoon was town, yet Kalofer does as well and it doesn't occur to you that you have the same mysterious reasons?
VOTE: Hazard
Okay, my thinking was admittedly quite selfish, but when it turned out we were lynching Stels and thus couldn't use the 'Zoo Visitor-Cop target Stels' plan, my plan was to confirm myself as town. There have been suspicions about my role as a scum fake-claim or whatever, and I wanted to prove my hiding was OPTIONAL - and I thus had a role that would be extremely improbable to be in the hands of scum imo.ToastyToast wrote:@Hazard: If Hoppster wants all Zoo Visitors to target someone, then why does he want himself targeted? May just be a phrasing issue
waiting for some more input from people
The reason all Zoo Visitors were needed to target me was because it was very likely imo that one (and it was probably going to be Kalofer) would be killed, and then I'd be held responsible. This problem would not occur if ALL ZOO VISITORS targeted me.
@ Amrun: I'm waiting for follow-up posts and discounting that first post by Vas as null.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Morthas Goon
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@Hoppster: As much as i love to see Hazard votes i get scum vibes from how you always target easy targets. I'm starting to doubt my read on him, he seems like a VI now
Can i presume you have used your secondary ability since you didn't hide this night?
@Hazard: COULD YOU FUCKING STOP FUCKING IGNORING MECapitalism, ho
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