Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

Tasky · Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:35 pm

Due to eastern holiday I'm going to be a bit lenient about activity this week end. I expect everyone to start posting regularly Monday evening/Tuesday morning.

GreyICE · Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:52 pm

Doombunny9 wrote:Since I've comepletely forgotten about it until RC reminded me... Grey, feel like answering my question I asked in post whatever (Not going to go back and check since RC quoted it for you)

What question? I'm serious. I have no idea, and I'm mostly reading RC posts to figure out how close to the 'scum' line he is today. I've yet to see him as town though, which could be biasing me. If it's something hiding in a wallpost, it's probably because it was totally worthless.

smargaret · Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:41 pm

v/la for Easter

Tasky · Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:10 am

LYNCHCOUNT 1.8 (unchanged)

LYNCH (2/8): GhostWriter, imaginality
NO LYNCH (11): MrTrow, Chronopie, RedCoyote, smargaret, Amrun, Tragedy, RangeroftheNorth, Doombunny9, Kcdaspot, GreyICE, Exe

Deadline is 30.04.2011, 19:00 CET.

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(Pseudo-)Votes

Doombunny9 (2): RangeroftheNorth, MrTrow
RangeroftheNorth (1): Exe
Amrun (1): RedCoyote
Kcdaspot (1): Amrun

Not Voting (8): Chronopie, imaginality, smargaret, Tragedy, GhostWriter, Doombunny9, GreyICE, Kcdaspot

Doombunny9 · Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:32 am

Grey wrote: What question? I'm serious. I have no idea, and I'm mostly reading RC posts to figure out how close to the 'scum' line he is today. I've yet to see him as town though, which could be biasing me. If it's something hiding in a wallpost, it's probably because it was totally worthless.

In post 285 you were talking to RC about why people were obv town etc. etc. In the next post, RC follows up by going against your points with his "implying" post. The post after that, you only responded to something trivial--why he used the word imply. Other than that, you ignored the post and what me and RC were wondering was why you ignored it.

GreyICE · Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:23 am

Oh, it was all nonsense. Half of it was just saying that I 'implied' stuff I flat out stated I believed.

If he wants to talk, he can talk, but at the moment he's in the weird 'smarg grey area' where I have little reads but little reason to believe they are scum.

I should really make a town scum list after easter weekend, but you try it on a phone.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:21 am

posting from phone... real quick i like grey and DB for town... and I dont know about amrun anymore... i need a solid list but im stuck until power comes back on... :/

Kcdaspot · Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:24 am

for claritys sake in no particular order my scum list is chrono smarg and mrtrow. again i will explain better when im at a keyboard.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:22 am

and HEY look at that...

mrtrow read is more gut than anything really.

I played with him on tasky's web of trust game 2.

I was scum then alongside him. I'm getting some vibes now mainly with his frequency of posting. even so he did ask more questions then...

Amrun · Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:09 pm

And, just as I thought, now that the tide has turned on me, kcdaspot drops his buddying to me and his entire stance.

Lolscum

Kcdaspot · Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:20 pm

you're still town but now slightly less town.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:21 pm

stop the tunnel pl0x.

thank you.

Tragedy · Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:26 pm

Hey kcdaspot, why is he town?

Kcdaspot · Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:41 pm

Gut somewhat.

I just think he took a understandable stance to my RVS. Though the tunnel starting to scare me away from that.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:52 pm

Grey wrote:Oh, it was all nonsense. Half of it was just saying that I 'implied' stuff I flat out stated I believed.

What about the other half? I find it odd that you'd just flat out ignore those parts of his post.

I still don't like Kcda's posts. Half of who he thinks are town/scum is all just "gut" and while that's fine, it shouldn't be the majority of his reads as he almost never posts why people are scum/town because of what they've done. He just seems to be placing people in whatever category suits him best and giving "gut" as an excuse when he can't think of anything better.

@Kcda- If you were to completely ignore your gut reads and pick out two people you thought were scum, who would you pick and why?

Amrun · Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:55 pm

It's not tunneling; I have other suspects etc. Following through with suspicion isn't tunneling. Tunneling = scum, though.

GreyICE · Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:00 pm

Doombunny9 wrote:
Grey wrote:Oh, it was all nonsense. Half of it was just saying that I 'implied' stuff I flat out stated I believed.
What about the other half? I find it odd that you'd just flat out ignore those parts of his post.

What parts do you think need answering? Can you rephrase them into actual questions?

Kcdaspot · Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:27 pm

i told you the trow read was gut but smarg has not scum hunted any, just stood in the back and just added something or other to someones suspicions notably even with all eyes on me he dropped me from his scumlist w/o much fanfare AFTER he got into a row with greyice over me calling me scummy.

Dude wat?

and chrono is scum because... well... read the thread...

hell in his post number 2 he freaking EMPHASIZES the fact he thinks that me and greyice had a spat. like he was SURE that was what happened.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:28 pm

Amrun: every other post from you has been about me. read your ISO.

imaginality · Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:10 pm

Kcdaspot, do you feel "[Amrun is] still town, but now slightly less town" and "I dont know about amrun anymore..." are two equivalent ways of expressing the same opinion? Because they read quite differently to me.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #395 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:56 am

yes.

i "didn't know about her anymore" in that being i am not confident in her being my top townie now.

Exe · Post Post #396 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:41 am

So.

Chrono is obvscum.
Ranger is probscum.

Other scum may be doombunny. It's just gut but there's something about his posts that reads off to me. Maybe I'll do an ISO later to see if there's something more concrete than gut.
In fact, his last post seems like a lot of noise generation. The entire accusation of Kcd doesn't sound like "Kcd = scum," but rather "Kcd = useless," and he never actually makes any argument that suggests that Kcd's actions are scum-like. I'd put him as the most likely 3rd scum.

Kcd's posts are distracting. I definitely can't place them as scum, but they seem to just be nonsensical half the time, and it's resulting in a lot of noise.

I think I am fine with

Vote: Lynch

I'd like to see a flip at this point.

Kcdaspot · Post Post #397 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:55 am

rather give chrono one last chance.

there IS a chance he's just being stupid.

Exe · Post Post #398 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:02 am

Stupidity or not, he's not putting in effort, which is scummy. He's not trying to scumhunt, he's trying to commit as little time or effort as possible while appearing to scumhunt.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #399 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:35 am

Grey wrote: What parts do you think need answering? Can you rephrase them into actual questions?

-">implying I didn't just do this for you"= Not sure

precisely

what RC is saying since I'm too lazy to look at context right now but why did you try to leech off of RC's case for why Kcda is town?
-">implying we didn't already discuss this" = Why did you try to restart the "Chrono is town" case when it was already discussed?
-">implying I base my scumhunting on "who could be partners with who" on D1 of a closed setup when there have been no flips" = Should be fairly obvious: Why did you assume that RC based his D1 reads off of who possible partners are rather than whos acting scummy, especially since no one flipped yet?

Exe wrote: In fact, his last post seems like a lot of noise generation. The entire accusation of Kcd doesn't sound like "Kcd = scum," but rather "Kcd = useless," and he never actually makes any argument that suggests that Kcd's actions are scum-like. I'd put him as the most likely 3rd scum.

I'm sorry for assuming that you can make conclusions on why something is scummy yourself rather than having to spell it out. If you were to read Kcda in iso he puts an oddly large amount of people as scum or town based on gut. The reasoning for doing this is just like anything else-Calling people scum to bring focus onto them and possibly a mislynch and calling people town to buddy up to them. I feel he's just using "gut reads" as an excuse for not being able to find any large reasoning for them or as just lazyscum. He also creates noise by doing this since he's just throwing out reads with no weight and even more so by splitting up his posts into many tinier posts. As for why this is scummy, you should know since you called me out for the exact same thing.

Also, since feel I've gotten enough information to make a decision and since we're out of the holidays so no ones going to have to take too long catching up, I'll

Vote: Lynch