Mini 1122: Mafia.Exe Game Over

[Llamarble]

Man, I bet I caught a lot of deadthread rage for hammering tox... Can't wait to see that.

[Nathanael]

And you didn't coordinate a time in the QT when you'd both be on?

Like '6PM tuesdays and thursdays, make some sort of brief post to show you're there and I'll vote?'

This was literally torturing the town.

I feel a little sorry for dragging the game longer that necessary, but I and buttons hadn't arranged anything and I was waiting for TBM to make the first move (since I was the RB). I just didn't want to take any risk.
Actually I hoped TBM would vote mute immediately after I voted him (he definitely could have).


good game all anyway. I enjoyed it quite a lot.

PS: Llama was right, without the tracker this setup would have been extremely weird and/or unbalanced.

[GreyICE]

Meh not really. The "VLA until after deadline" was so bad.

Speaking of VLAs, Buttons, I autovote you on #2, #3 if I'm feeling nice next game with you.

That vote doesn't leave until a moderator confirms you town.

P.P.S. YEAH. Marble was more or less confirmed town because of setup spec since you KNEW there was a RB

[DeathRowKitty]

Everyone knew there was a roleblocker once you died >_>

@Llamarble
Most of the dead QT hate is directed towards Mute actually....there's probably something there to satisfy your masochism though.

[Llamarble]

I did indeed have town on mute up until he started being confirmed scum.
Making post 1412 felt pretty awesome, but oh well.

[TheButtonmen]

And you didn't coordinate a time in the QT when you'd both be on?

Like '6PM tuesdays and thursdays, make some sort of brief post to show you're there and I'll vote?'

This was literally torturing the town.

We had no day chat and hadn't expected a cross-vote like that so nothing was planned, I didn't go for the quick hammer due to the risks involved as I felt we would win the long game for sure.

[TheButtonmen]

Meh not really. The "VLA until after deadline" was so bad.

Speaking of VLAs, Buttons, I autovote you on #2, #3 if I'm feeling nice next game with you.

Hey now.

Early game I got some people riled up so that they were bickering rather then being able to work as a team.
Mid game one of the scum team decided to play awfully and I was strongly active but in a manner that didn't advance the game.
Approching Lylo town was divided and I just lukred my way into end game.

I didn't just V/LA everything, there was an overarching plan!

[GreyICE]

Certain people make it onto a list where if they're not posting
They won't be advancing their win conditions
Because I kill em.

So far it's you and saporovirus.

[GreyICE]

and Nobody Special obv

[Exe]

Yall just had a field day with the finished game while I wasn't around >.>

Final stuffs incoming.

[Exe]

Gaaaame Overrrr

FINAL VOTE COUNT EVER

Mute

(3): TheButtonmen, Llamarble, Nathanael,

Llamarble

(1): Mute,

TheButtonmen

(0):

Nathanael

(0):

ConSpiracy

(0):

No Lynch

(0):

Not Voting

: ConSpiracy,

Mute

,

Vanilla Townie

, was

Lynched

Day 5.

Llamarble

,

Town Tracker

, was

Endgamed.

Conspiracy

,

Town Mason

, was

Endgamed.

TheButtonMen

,

Mafia Goon

, survived the game!

Nathanael

,

Mafia Roleblocker

, survived the game!

TheButtonmen, Nathanael, and Krazy

win the game!
Everyone else, sadly, loses.


More info coming eventually.

[Exe]

Dead QT:
http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/7PLD8seqtQU

Scum QT:
[redacted] Scum have asked me to kindly not reveal their QT.

Setup was:
Mason Pair, Doctor, Tracker, + nilla's

VS

Roleblocker, + 2 goons.

Role PMs & night actions sometime tomorrow.

[Exe]

Oh and mason's can reveal their own QT if they want, but it was pretty uneventful >.>

[TheButtonmen]

The dead QT is solid gold.

[TheButtonmen]

And I mean buttons just has to say that. Because buttons has been wrong about everything. If he was actually right once, people might realize he's scum, but no, everything he says is the opposite of true, so he can't be scum!

As long as you are loud and confident people will think you're being honest

Even worse: all TBM has to say in his post is "lol, setup isn't balanced with a trackurrrr" and Llama is dead because we have a town full of players that don't understand balance! (minus xtox, who hasn't said much of anything)

I wanted Xtox dead not Llama.

Of course, scum decided not to have the roleblocker kill night 1, but that was a mistake.

We didn't think the RB could kill and block, that was news for us too.

"If Tox is indeed town you all are going to listen to the remaining mason. He will decide who is going to be lynched." -ConSpiracy

Oh god...please no >.<

And that's why Hikari got shot.

The town better fucking lynch buttons, or there will be rage.

Trololol.

TBM and Nathanael are so passive it hurts.

Town made is obvious that I could lurk on by.

But losing to buttons just feels painful.

Trololol Mrk. 2

THAT BEING SAID, I STOPPED LOOKING AT NATH AND TBM AFTER THEY STOPPED POSTING. TBM SCUM POSTS MORE THAN TBM TOWN.

Lies!

[DeathRowKitty]

Heh...I just realized I made a post in the dead QT for this game that I meant to make in the dead QT for another game. Good thing there was no overlap between the two games... (The other game's since ended.)

[ConSpiracy]

This is not what I had in mind...

Conspiracy's reads made me cry a little.

Sorry...

Plus Llama is actually a beast of a scumhunter once he starts paying attention.

I noticed... [/sarcasm]

Does Conspiracy not realise he's a Mason or is he just an idiot?

Lol. That gambit failed hard.

Llamarble hit Krazy straight out the gate day 1 and didn't let up until the day ended. Plus Tracker is a PANTS fakeclaim early in the popcorn, as it's 100% confirmable.

Yeah it is, when there are only masons and scum left...

"If Tox is indeed town you all are going to listen to the remaining mason. He will decide who is going to be lynched." -ConSpiracy

Oh god...please no >.<

Teehee.

I am sorrry for not pursuing Nath. Marble was pinging my scumdar so hard and I can't just ignore it. Setup speculation diminished it a bit, but not enough. Oh well, live and learn.

Well done TBM, you are the MVP in the game. You did it very good.

I am fine with the mason QT being revealed. Hiraki may post it if he approves as well.

[Llamarble]

Dead QT was excellent, hehe.
I do like being a VT.
Weighing "Buttons is half as likely as anyone else to be scum" due to role information against "Buttons is scummy" was a messy issue.
I felt like I absolutely should not lynch him unless somebody else flipped RB or more role information came up.
I suppose I'll do it that way again in the future and most of the time it should be the right move.

[GreyICE]

What the hell is with not revealing the scum QT? Pulling a ReaperCharlie here TBM?

[Nathanael]

What the hell is with not revealing the scum QT? Pulling a ReaperCharlie here TBM?

actually it was my fault.
Be assured, there wasn't a lot going on there.

[GreyICE]

Oh lawd, is there info about an ongoing in there?

Mind posting it when that expires?

[ConSpiracy]

Weighing "Buttons is half as likely as anyone else to be scum" due to role information against "Buttons is scummy" was a messy issue.

It was the same as me thinking about you:
"Setup speculation" vs "scummy Llamarble"

[DeathRowKitty]

Anyone with the patience to read through the dead QT probably already knows my thoughts on the game, but I may as well say them here anyway:

Well-played by the scum team. Not necessarily the most impressive play I've seen from a scum team, but you did what you needed to and got into a position in which you could take advantage of town's less-than-ideal play. No use arguing with results.

Town play this game was....interesting. I'm going to gloss over that almost entirely and just comment on two things.
1) Do not speculate on the setup unless you understand setup design and balance. Those of us in the dead QT really wanted to stab some of you when you started saying Llama's role didn't fit in...
2) I kind of felt bad for Llamarble. He really did play that lylo almost perfectly, but there was nothing he could do once Mute voted him.


The setup itself was nice. Masons seem to be getting a lot more popular because of the recent wave of hatred for cops. I think there's an interesting argument to be made from it though that actions in normal games should either be standardized or stated beforehand by the mod. When GreyICE made his claim of being either PGO or doctor, he would never have guessed that a roleblocker could block a PGO, since passive actions usually can't be blocked. From what the mod said, that didn't actually play into the scum's decision to block him, but, well, it really should have and it could have been a big deal. Also of note, if I'd had the tracker role, I wouldn't have thought to ask the mod whether or not the roleblocker was allowed to kill and block because it's so rare outside of newbie games. The scum team didn't even realize it until night 2 and that got one of their goons tracked to a kill (he was likely going down anyway, but it didn't help...). It's not that there was anything inherently wrong with the action resolution Exe was using...it's just unexpected in a normal game. Anyone here have thoughts on that? (I'll probably turn it into an MD thread later.)

[GreyICE]

It's inspired me to start to work on this for my mini normal:
https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id ... 6_PbBw2Xgq

[DeathRowKitty]

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