Team Mafia: White Flag Mafia

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:16 pm

No one else on my team cared for Mountainous. And I'm a team player.

SocioPath picked the scum game, though.

VOTE: Sociopath

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:18 pm

Thor665 wrote:
Vote: Inflatable Pie

I agree with the scumtell Equinox has chosen not to mention.

Where?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 1:35 pm

Is it too early to lurker hunt?

InflatablePie · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:28 pm

Vote: mith

I'll never be able to do this again.

An iPie wagon is fine, too.

Equinox · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:46 pm

Okay, so I'll be

V/LA Monday and Tuesday

of this week for finals and stuff. After that, it shall be a whirlwind of activity from me!

Noted.

Llamarble wrote:Whoever is scum chose to be, so:
Why did each of you choose this game / why should I believe you're town?
Who are your teammates?

I love the White Flag setup. I read Mini 1030 and ran Open 268 (which was unbalanced), and I really like the concept of how the mafia need to adapt and how towns should be balanced with this handicap in mind.

Believe that I'm town only on my own merits and not because of what I would tell you about my preferences. I'd have taken this game regardless of the PM given to us. Oh, and it should be easy enough to figure us out, so I'll leave you to that.

I doubt Chris B is an alt. We had some discussion during the pre-game, and we came to the conclusion that his group most likely came from the same site. I have a tentative read based on this meta that I'm going to withhold in favor of grilling the guy for kicks.

DrippingGoofball wrote:Where?

I chose to not mention it, so of course it wouldn't be anywhere.

Let's just say that I think InflatablePie has a higher-than-random chance of being scum right now, and I think Thor665 saw the same thing. Join us on this lovely wagon? We can run after SocioPath later when we're through with inflating the pie.

InflatablePie · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 2:52 pm

Llamarble wrote:Why did each of you choose this game?

Seemed the most interesting. Partly process of elimination, too: never played in a PYP, so I didn't think I'd be good at it; I'm tired of playing in Normals; I've played in enough dram games to last me a while. Finally, I've wanted to play in a Mountainous game since I first started playing mafia, so...

InflatablePie · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:01 pm

EBWOP: I'm not going to claim my team. dealwithitdog.jpg

Llamarble · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:27 pm

Wiki / meta corroborates Thor's story -> townpoints -> IT'S SHEEPIN' TIME.
VOTE: InflatablePie

DemonHybrid · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:34 pm

Vote: mith

Wow. It's not everyday when I can say something like that.

Equinox · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 3:44 pm

People on the mith wagon: Do you disagree with me and Thor665? Who what when where and why?

I love competing bandwagons and all, but I'd like one more slip of paper with InflatablePie's name on it to fall into the ballot box.

TheButtonmen · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:01 pm

D1VC1:

InflatablePie (3): Equinox, Thor, Llamarble
mith (3): Socio, IP, DH
Chris (1): Sotty
Socio (1): DGB

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.

Equinox · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:06 pm

Mod: Can we get a list of nonvoters, please? Thanks!

SocioPath · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:36 pm

Llamarble wrote:Why did each of you choose this game

The mountainous setup is one that is pretty generally stated as being unbalanced for town.
I feel this is bullshit and people keep relying on power roles and using them as a crutch.
There is nothing more pure than actually having to use your words and rely on that instead of waiting around for silly night actions.
Or hiding behind soft claims, or bread crumbs, or cryptography, or other silly nonsense.
Even though this game waters it down a bit with its non-needing of killing the last scum.
So I picked this game for a sense of proof, to show what can be done.
Considering I've won mountainous games in the past, and that was to the last scum dead.
So playing as scum in this game would be counter-productive the point, and would only re-enforce the negative lighting.

DrippingGoofball wrote:SocioPath picked the scum game, though.

VOTE: Sociopath

Oh. Or wait. Then there is that.
DGB just knows me too well.

ISO · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:42 pm

Hi all.

Why I am in this game. I would have requested this one whatever role my team was assigned in it; I'm town because we were assigned town.

Llmarble and Thor665: You claim to prefer being town - is there anything in your meta you can point to that confirms this in any way? (On a related and more general note, I think DGB is the only one in this game I have played with before, so I don't expect I will pay much attention to claims of meta unless they are backed up with linked evidence.)

(On a completely unrelated but important note: I refuse to use the M word when discussing this setup. It puts us in entirely the wrong mindset. I was winning Vanilla games when some of you were still in diapers. Probably. I don't know how old you are.)

Klazam · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:49 pm

vote of respect: mith

Equinox · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 4:53 pm

Are people ignoring the InflatablePie wagon because he's scum?

DemonHybrid, Klazam, SocioPath: Get with the program, please. Explain why you disagree with the other wagon or die.

InflatablePie · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:05 pm

Equinox wrote:People on the mith wagon: Do you disagree with me and Thor665? Who what when where and why?

Who: Me.
What: Wagon.
When: Now.
Where: Here.
Why: Self-explanatory.

Equinox wrote:
Mod: Can we get a list of nonvoters, please? Thanks!

+1

Equinox wrote:Are people ignoring the InflatablePie wagon because he's scum?

I'm sorry, what was that? I was too busy ignoring you.

Equinox wrote:We can run after SocioPath later when we're through with inflating the pie.

Most people would say "deflating", but since I'm Inflatable, not necessarily Inflated, that's incorrect. +A million brownie points for this choice of words.

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@mith: Why don't you have a vote down? Opinion on your wagon? What's the "M word"?
@Klazam: Why not a vote of disrespect?
@iPie: Why so many questions?

InflatablePie · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:07 pm

InflatablePie wrote:@iPie: Why so many questions?

I don't know. I think because if I act all casual towards my wagon and ask questions that look like I'm scumhunting, they won't find out I'm scum. Maybe if Equinox would quit bussing so damn early I wouldn't have to resort to using such methods.

Klazam · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:13 pm

Llamarble wrote:Whoever is scum chose to be, so:
Why did each of you choose this game / why should I believe you're town?
Who are your teammates?

I chose this game because I wanted a simple game, with no power roles.
I am not team claiming.

Equinox/Thor: The only possible “scumtells” I can see about IP at the time you guys voted him is that he was the second to last to confirm, and he didn’t post a regular confirm.

Sorry for being dense, but I think Mith is just as good a wagon as IP is.

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PEdit:
@IP because I respect him enough to vote him.

BUT, I think sarcasm is a valid scumtell. So Equinox/Thor: congrats. You get your vote.

unvote, vote InflatablePie

SocioPath · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:19 pm

Equinox wrote:Get with the program, please. Explain why you disagree with the other wagon or die.

No thanks.

Unvote
Vote: Klazam

DemonHybrid · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:24 pm

1. Equinox, threats aren't the best way to get your voice heard. I had just posted my RVS vote.
2. I agree with you on InflatablePie and his preference for being scum.
3. Question for you: Why focus on IP and not other players with strong scumgames who Llamarble mentioned? Sotty, DGB, Thor and mith (from what I recall) all have strong scum games and you hadn't really focused on talking about them.

Unvote, Vote: InflatablePie

Preview edit: SP became town with that post. I'm going to be looking at the 6 aforementioned people at the moment (Sotty, DGB, Thor, mith, IP, Equinox).

Equinox · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:26 pm

Uh, you just hammered. Congratulations.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:26 pm

?

7 to lynch, and I'm the 5th vote.

LlamaFluff · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:26 pm

Vote Equinox

Very unrandom. There is no backing to an IP wagon as herp-derping is not a scumtell, just a competence one. Equinox is pushing it more then "random wagon" on something like this being a tell.

Other good votes are marble and Klazam.

Equinox · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2011 5:29 pm

DemonHybrid wrote:3. Question for you: Why focus on IP and not other players with strong scumgames who Llamarble mentioned? Sotty, DGB, Thor and mith (from what I recall) all have strong scum games and you hadn't really focused on talking about them.

How do I say this... It wasn't so much InflatablePie's preference for scum games -- as I wasn't aware of that -- but more something I picked up that led me and my team to conclude he may be scum in this game. I chose to not mention people with strong scum games like Llamarble because I do not play like him, and I'll eventually get reads on those people without naming them.

I was hoping I could get people to react to wagons and stuff, given how scum would have to be careful about that, but I guess we'll see how things go on Day 2.

Edit: 7? Oh, damn me. I'm a derp. I thought it was 5 to lynch for some reason. LlamaFluff, read the above and then read Thor665's comment, and connect the dots. That was not a random wagon at all.