Pine wrote:Your whole post is an attack on Mastin.
You are very careful not to insult or personally attack him
, but everything you said (and much of what you have said since) are attempts to dismiss or discredit him, his reads, and the results of his investigation. Why are you doing this?
Emphasis mine. I don't think it's because we're careful, it's that ICE and I are generally decent human beings and don't tend to personall insult someone (just their spelling, har har har). In any case, IT ISN'T CHARACTER ASSASSINATION. Stop using such emotionally-laden language to mislabel something. Character assassination is defamation of character. We did no such thing.
Additionally, we didn't try to discredit the results of the investigation--did you miss the immediate post above where we say Silver is town?
Finally, why are we doing this? Again--either Mastin is scum, or Mastin is town. If it is the former, well, y'all will probably lynch him before LyLo anyways. But if it is the latter, his play has not, imo, been good for the town, but y'all are following him anyways. So, we are trying to get town to rethink that. That's it.
Pine wrote:Are you high? Cop. Cop has innocent. Confirmed mislynch < possible mislynch
If this was the case, cops would always claim on D2 whenever an innocent result they had got voted. C'mon.
Do you not get how the chances of town mislynching were still quite high after Mastin's claim? It was FOR SURE going to happen (on us) if we didn't claim.
Pine wrote:So...Mastin should have spent his daycop power on someone who wasn't the leading lynch? Instead, he used it on someone who he had a gut feeling was about to be mislynched, confirmed them, and saved us from mislynching?
YES. You yourself noted that it went against Mastin's game theory in your ISO #33. Investigating the scummiest-looking player is usually a wasted investigation. Why are you changing your tune now?
Pine wrote:I was talking about you and your Masonbuddies. The fact that you subconsciously, absent-mindedly don't include you and your buddies in the confirmed Townie category is extremely suspicious.
First, why are you scumhunting on confirmed town? This plus your #501 of trying to still subtly throw suspicion on us is bad. Unlike what we are saying about Mastin--which is, basically, hey, let's reconsider the influence we're giving this guy--you're still saying, "Hey, SZS is still might be scum."
Second, your original question was worded as us "pushing against two nigh-confirmed townies." How does that at all describe our mason buddies? Jmurph is on the Toon wagon with us. We've been working in concert with Thor on Amor; yes, our vote is on Toon, but Amor is the leading wagon atm, so it's not like switching now makes a functional difference.