Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[RayFrost]

RayFrost, what were your faith totals N1 and N2?

Lemme check for n1. N2 was 4.

[RayFrost]

N1, I had two faith.

[RayFrost]

I'd also like to say that I didn't worship n0. Mostly because I didn't feel I'd get much faith, and I didn't want to risk powering scum up if I wasn't ensuring that I powered worthwhile town (me) as well.

[Magua]

Now that you've claimed all this, will you say what you did with your faith N1?

[RayFrost]

Nothing. I had two faith. I thought faith carried over, so yeah.

[Magua]

Apologies. I meant N2.

[Vi]

Vote Count XI:

Verbosity reigns!
MagnaofIllusion (L-3) ~ Demonic Angel, Seraphim, AlmasterGM, Debonair Danny DiPietro,

RayFrost,

ooba
Plum (L-5) ~ sottyrulez, Faraday, VP Baltar
RayFrost (L-6) ~ Parama, Magua
VP Baltar (L-7) ~

MagnaofIllusion,

Plum

Minimum (L-8)

Not Voting:

Nobody Special,

ooba,

RayFrost, MagnaofIllusion

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[MagnaofIllusion]

It is in their nature.

That’s an absolute cop-out excuse to accuse me of being scummy for the same behavior then.

I literally do not care if VPB is the SK. Even if he were to claim it in the thread, I would not vote him.

Then you are pointlessly short-sighted. Because not lynching a claimed dangerous 3rd party over someone who can possibly flip Town is frankly stupid. Not that he has directly claimed SK but in the situation you described it is a terrible move.

Question about your Donation power, Magna. Please elaborate on how it works. Here's how I think it works from what you said in a hypothetical setup with you (Balance + Austerity), ooba (Balance + Justice), and RayFrost (Justice + Syncretism).

N1, no one has any faith.
ooba worships Austerity.
RayFrost worships Austerity.
You use Donation, targeting ooba.

N2, you have 0 faith.
RayFrost has 0 faith.
ooba has 2 faith.

Is that correct?

Nope that isn’t correct. I will explain in detail. And an example is the easiest way to do it.

Myself = Balance and Austerity
Ooba = Balance and Justice
Rayfrost = Justice and Syncretism

N1 3 players worship Balance and 1 player worships Austerity. None worship Justice and 2 worship Syncretism.

N1 I myself use donation.

If I donate to ooba N2 I would have zero Faith and ooba would have 4 (3 Balance from normal worship and 1 donated from Austerity). He does not receive any donated amounts from balance since he is a member of that domain.

If I dontate to Rayfrost N2 I would have zero Faith and Rayfrost would have 6 (2 from Sycretism, 3 donated from Balance and 1 Donated from Austerity).

That should explain how it works fairly clearly, I believe.

[VP Baltar]

Three days of massive posting and the battery is under 50%....scum definitely are causing shenanigans with this. Since we'll be starting the day with 50% battery tomorrow, I think it'd be very wise if everyone is here and ready to vote as soon as the day opens tomorrow.

[Seraphim]

I wonder if the battery has more to do with post count as words per post rather than actual time elapsed.

[Magua]

That’s an absolute cop-out excuse to accuse me of being scummy for the same behavior then.

It is not a cop out to say, "It's odd that Magna isn't being analytical" when your observed behavior is to be analytical. It would similarly not be a cop out for me to say, "It's odd for Fate to be nice and pleasant to everyone."

Then you are pointlessly short-sighted. Because not lynching a claimed dangerous 3rd party over someone who can possibly flip Town is frankly stupid. Not that he has directly claimed SK but in the situation you described it is a terrible move.

I'm really a terrible player. Like I said, I only got in here because Vi mistook my name for yours.

Nope that isn’t correct. I will explain in detail. And an example is the easiest way to do it.

I'm not seeing the difference between your example and mine.

Perhaps if I just tried to reword it?
N1: Donate and pick a target.
N2: All faith that you get that your target would not normally get goes to the target. You lose all remaining faith (ie, what both you and your target would've gotten).

Is that accurate?

I wonder if the battery has more to do with post count as words per post rather than actual time elapsed.

Does it matter? No.

Seraphim, you think VPB is town (as in, not the SK), yes/no?

Who do you think are the tigers?

[MagnaofIllusion]

[quote=""Magua"]

I'm not seeing the difference between your example and mine.

Perhaps if I just tried to reword it?
N1: Donate and pick a target.
N2: All faith that you get that your target would not normally get goes to the target. You lose all remaining faith (ie, what both you and your target would've gotten).

Is that accurate?[/quote]

Yes. In your example I thought somehow you were having me leach Faith from Rayfrost to ooba also. That is not the case on re-read.

[Seraphim]

Seraphim, you think VPB is town (as in, not the SK), yes/no?

I believe that VPB is most likely town and am operating on that premise. Certain aspects of his role and his play do not signal SK to me.

Who do you think are the tigers?

AT LEAST one of Plum/MoI, if not both. After that, Demonic Angel and Nobody Special are both possibilities. AGM, DDD, and Parama follow a third tier after that. I would want to see Plum/MoI both dead before I even consider any of the other players.

[Magua]

Does the donation still go through if you are nightkilled the same night you do it?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Does the donation still go through if you are nightkilled the same night you do it?

I'll have to inquire about that to Vi. Role-pm does not indicate anything related to that scenario.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vi's answer is cryptic but the general indication is No.

[RayFrost]

Magua: I killed dramonic.

[RayFrost]

You have the blessings of the sky father

for this post. For the really realz.

Anyway... not buying the plum hate for the moment, but I admit to having bias based upon [redacted] caused by [redacted].

Parama, didn't you say you had a case somewhere n that head of yours? If so, eel free to, I dunno... post it sometime. In the meantime, have a healthy bowl of blatant OMGUS.

Vote: Parama

By the way, I breadcrumbed it here.

Also: if you feel like asking more information, feel free.

[Magua]

Poor dramonic.

In the meantime, I think RayFrost is town. Part of it is his answers to some questions (I don't see scum saying they did nothing N0 and nothing N1 and oh yeah I killed a town N2), and part of it has to do with his claim and private information I have. Either way, I don't think he's scum.

UNVOTE: RayFrost

This claim also makes me feel much better about VPB.

[RayFrost]

Well, faraday owes me a song.

[RayFrost]

Going to say that I can't shoot again, though. It was one of those "one time only" things. Sadly.

[RayFrost]

Also going to say that I know my kill went through because the flavor of my cast matches the flavor of the game(s) it originates from, and the flavor of the kill matches the aforementioned.

[Seraphim]

BTW, if anyone wants to claim either of the Duplicity or Equinox kills, go for it.

If you don't think it's important, don't claim it. It should be fairly obvious why I'm asking this.

[Magua]

Also going to say that I know my kill went through because the flavor of my cast matches the flavor of the game(s) it originates from, and the flavor of the kill matches the aforementioned.

You shouldn't've have said it was 1-shot only. But now that you have, full details? I've been working under the assumption that the kill flavors were tied to the role dying, not to the method of death. I am very interested in this, especially given that both quadz and VPB have claimed kill powers that included no flavor.

@Seraphim

, can you give me full details of your "person who's been voted the most" power?

[Faraday]

Well, faraday owes me a song.

wheeeeeeee any preference?