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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:53 pm

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tanstalas wrote:LOL @ Zod

I'd like to know what the 3 or 4 possibilities were. You called me scum or town...

So, you think there may be as many as 2 other 3rd parties? You're not very good at this game are you?


As I said, I forgot the others. They were in my head right up until I went to write them. Read the god damned thread.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 2:57 pm

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I've seen enough.

Shun: Zod
....what?



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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:01 pm

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Nachomamma8 wrote:
Zod wrote:Lol @ implying theres a doctor
Lol @ implying the doctor will protect you
Lol @ you screaming I'm scum with making a case at all

It's not reaching to say there's a protective role.
The doctor will protect me, you can BELIEVE IT.
Oh, sorry. I thought that's how things were done since you sure haven't given anything for a case on me, and you most certainly haven't commented on what I have provided on you.

ZING!

It is reaching to say there's a protective role, unless you are a backup one.
I watch Naruto in Japanese(when I do watch) so, no, I won't believe it.
I don't have a case on you(yet), so I don't have to give one on you. And "WTF IS THIS SHIT, KILL IT WITH FIRE" doesn't need any attention beyond a lynch.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:03 pm

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Nobody Special wrote:I've seen enough.

Shun: Zod


Have you been looking at whats been happening in the last 12 or so hours? At all? Or do you really want to be in the same basket as Mr "MORE ZOD VOTES PLOX" and Mr "KILL IT WIT FIRE"?
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:11 pm

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And since Zod did ask for a case on him...

Cue the music.
Don't worry, your buddies will go out more impressively. But this fits for your lynch.

Zodiark wrote:Thoughts: I'll be honest, I was about to read up and then things happened IRL and had to go out, didn't get back for several hours, and didn't have a chance to post for many hours more, and by that time, my mum was on the computer, being the only computer in the house. I was wanting to get a post out, thats all.

Saying that he just wanted to "get a post out" shows that he really didn't care about what it brought to the game; he only cared about throwing a post down so it didn't seem like he was lurking.

Zodiark wrote:On closer examination, I think I will keep my vote on tans. His 33 seems to be very reaching for a reason to have an early 'serious' bandwagon, but then happily jumps onto me for a rather flimsy reason in 49. 73 screams of scum not happy that his two bandwagons are going nowhere.

Finding reasons to keep his vote where it is. I say this because he is seriously reaching right here, and being overly vague about things by not giving real reasons.

Zodiark wrote:EBWOP: Meant to say questions, not points. 'u scum bro?' is a suitable replacement.

Scum worried about phrasing tally: ONE

Wow, now scum is appealing to the mod, and threatening to rage-quit. So add that to the long list of reasons to vote tans.

He's pushing tans as scum because he's getting frustrated with another player. And the long list of reasons...? This?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry guys, falling behind a little bit. I myself am fairly concise, in fact its a bit of a weakness, as I always struggled with 'Write 1000 words on' essays in high school, always completing them in about 700 and fitting lots of information in that much. I don't do text walls so much as quote walls. And no, text walls, or lack thereof, is a null tell, so stop trying to make it otherwise tans.

If anyone has any points they want addressed, please bring them up.

Also, I may as well have my say on the alliance proposal. I'm against it, because the person suggesting it has to be 110% that no one on the alliance is scum(ignoring the possibility that the proposer is scum himself), and, at the end of the day, it means that only one person is playing the game. I don't play mafia just to have one person decide how the game ends from the very start of the game.

This post has absolutely no benefit to scumhunting whatsoever.

Zodiark13 wrote:I'm moving on from tans, this back and forth is doing nothing but distract me from everyone else, and most of his points in his last post against me are either noise, pointless, or, in one question, rolefishing.

Unshun

Not too sure where to go from here though. A good point to start on though;

FoS(Finger of Shunning?): ReaperCharlie

His last nine posts have been completely pointless. And the last time I saw someone doing as what he did in his 236, the person doing it was scum.

Unvote + FoS is one of the strongest scumtells on the market right now.
And he dropped it.
He dropped it like he dropped the ball when his scumbuddies said "Zod just don't get lynched day 1 LOL".
As an aside, "last time I saw someone doing that, they were scum" is the bullshittiest of bullshits in the whole world, especially since he doesn't denote what exactly RC was doing.

Zodiark wrote:How about no. Ignoring the fact that it was an IRC game.

And he can't link it...
Because it was an IRC GAME?
Okay. Sure. Yeah. I believe him.

Zodiark wrote:I'm not voting you because your active lurking, I'm voting you because your being purposely pointless. Theres a difference between not posting content, and posting anti-content.

This post speaks truth. He's not voting him because of active lurking. He's not voting him at all.
HAR HAR HAR

Zodiark wrote:Doom/Nacho: Was fairly townish till Nacho replaced in, since then the slot has steadily been slipping towards scum.
NS: Epic lurker. Slightly scum, but more activity will fix that. hint hint
Hiraki: 99% chance of being town. Shan't say more there.
RC: Mostly noise since the alliance thing. Heavily leaning scum.
Pulindar: Makes good posts, 80% chance of rain being town.
umbrage: Not sure what to think here.
kryptinen: Not sure if I have a town read or a pity read.
Charlie, Rhinox, Stefunny: Hasn't stood out either way. Null.

Let's translate this.
One scum read, two town reads, 9 null reads?
GOOD READS BRO

Zodiark wrote:I'm a Lover with Hiraki. Thing is, neither of us know the others alignment. This post is what makes me think Hiraki is town. He put himself as a potential candidate for lynching, if there was a possibility that I was scum, because, if I am, which I'm not, Hiraki being lynched would mean I die as well. Scum wouldn't pull something like that D1, if at all.

Oh, and he's not paranoid of his lover at all. BUDDYING UP TO YOUR LOVER BECAUSE YOU'RE AFRAID OF DEATH = SCUM.
I'm sorry that Hiraki has to die, though :(

Zodiark wrote:Nice fake claim, scum. Self voting, yay, lets look at the possibilities.
1) Gambiting scum.
2) Stupid VT.

Nice... fakeclaim? HE SAYS THAT TO A VT? WHAT?

Zodiark wrote:You are worse than tans. Either get a case together or you swing tomorrow.

Case is finished. It's your turn, kid.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:12 pm

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Sorry, I have one more addendum.

Zodiark wrote:It is reaching to say there's a protective role, unless you are a backup one.

LYNCH IT.
LYNCH THE ROLEFISHING SCUMBAG WITH FIRE.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:14 pm

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EBWOP:
WITH FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 3:22 pm

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Haylen wrote:
Shun Count
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Charlie: Stefunny
Umbrage: Nobody Special
Reapercharlie: Charlie
Zodiark: Pulindar, Tans, Nachomamma, Kryptinen
Rhinox: Hiraki
Hiraki: Umbrage
Tans: Zodiark, Reapercharlie


Not being a shunning bastard: Rhinox

Deadline:
Thursday 19th May 9pm BST (
(expired on 2011-05-19 16:00:00)
)

Votes to lynch:
7/12
Prods:

Notes:

Stefunny.
I see you.
Please fix this votecount for me.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 4:44 pm

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Prologue
Nachomamma8 wrote:
Haylen wrote:
Shun Count
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Charlie: Stefunny
Reapercharlie: Charlie
Zodiark: Pulindar, Tans, Nachomamma, Kryptinen,
Nobody Special

Rhinox: Hiraki
Hiraki: Umbrage
Tans: Zodiark, Reapercharlie


Not being a shunning bastard: Rhinox

Deadline:
Thursday 19th May 9pm BST (
(expired on 2011-05-19 16:00:00)
)

Votes to lynch:
7/12
Prods:

Notes:

Stefunny.
I see you.
Please fix this votecount for me.
Not sure if Rinox is voting tans or not due to the fact that he said vote not shun.

Here, maybe I can help a bit Nacho, I moved NS over to the Zod lynch.

Btw, Hiraki still hasn't commented on the lover thing, I believe it but I'm confused as why he hasn't confirmed. Hmm I guess he hasn't posted since then.
[areaNacho's reads]I'm not quite sure I agree. Based on RC's interactions with Zod I feel they may be buddies (based entirely on Zod's flip)

I feel that umbrage was just as ridiculous as Tans and is only slightly less town for it.

You had nothig on Rhinox. What are your thoughts on him. I was leaning town there, but his lack of attention has been bothering me. I realize logically that it's not a scum tell, but it makes my gut think he may be scum. I'm going to say I still think town but anti-town play right now. [/area]
lovers thingthe most likely possibility I normally think of with lovers is for one to be either third party or scum.

That doesn't mean it's a good idea to lynch them, but it doesn't mean it's a bad one either. And since it's just my general assumption it doesn't mean much.

VTHa, I was right. Tans claimed VT at the beginning of the game when Krypt was first posting in Spanish.

I don't doubt that a VT could be in this game, I believe many players have roles, but I won't assume everyone.
Case on Tansum still leaning town for both umbrage and tans, need to go over them again but even reading through your points I still feel I'm right.

Also, still doubting the jester thing.

Epilogue

Zod is at L-2, my case still stands (and no one has tried to refute it) Nacho's case stands now as well. I see no reason to move my vote and hope that two of you will realize that this is for the best. I truly believe Zod will flip scum. I am not expecting a mislynch, and that's why I have been shunning him. Anyone else is a possible mislynch.

Mmm last note. Zod said that he was voting Tans first, but his original vote on Tans was RVS. Tans' original vote on him was not, and that vote did not feel OMGUS either. It could be because I found the reason as legit, but I think it was just a good reason.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:04 pm

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Shun: tans


Now that he's claimed, he dies. No excuses. Pull your heads out of your asses and kill some scum now. I'm not lynching Zod. tans wants him dead and that's enough to convince me he's probably town.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:06 pm

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@Nacho: Hmmm... Yousa point is.... well say.

Still though. I will only vote for Zod if it comes down to the wire, as I have a strange feeling he is just scummy, scummy town.
Plus I think it's tans PLUS Umbrage BUT NOT Zodiark. I find it very unlikely that three scum would ALL just cross-bus on Day 1.

Why are you so sure the doctor will protect you, Nacho? Are you just trying to WIFOM scum away from killing you? Not to mention, if you're scum, you've just given yourself the perfect excuse for "why it wasn't YOU that died last night", if anybody asks. Being of course: "ohhh because they thought the doc would be protecting me, duh". #424 is bad all around. ZING or no.

I still don't think Zodiark is scum.

And to boot, I think NS's "I've seen enough, Shun Zod" post warrants severe suspicion. That reeks of opportunism at the end of the day, while still having the excuse of "ohhh but you guys, there was a deadline. i'm sorry i thought thats what town wanted". Ummm. How about NO.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:07 pm

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p-ebwodp (lol): <3 to Umbrage for shunning tans.

TANS IS BETTER TO LYNCH THAN ZODIARK.

SEE THE LIGHT.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:09 pm

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Hmmm...
Well, I think that RC's town because of him pushing the alliance thing far past what would be beneficial for scum, and because of the whole jester point.
But I just reread him and he's an okay choice for buddy to Zod due to the whole not mentioning him thing, and due to leaving his vote on someone who he believed was a Jester for quite a while.

Pulindar wrote:You had nothig on Rhinox. What are your thoughts on him. I was leaning town there, but his lack of attention has been bothering me. I realize logically that it's not a scum tell, but it makes my gut think he may be scum. I'm going to say I still think town but anti-town play right now.

The "whatever happens, happens" Rhinox is usually town, and that's the read I'm getting from him right now.
But, I haven't played with him as scum in a little while so my eyes are on him.

Umbrage wrote:Now that he's claimed, he dies. No excuses. Pull your heads out of your asses and kill some scum now. I'm not lynching Zod. tans wants him dead and that's enough to convince me he's probably town.

Nope. Absolutely not. No way in hell.
And I will scream louder than you could ever wish for this one.
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RC wrote:Still though. I will only vote for Zod if it comes down to the wire, as I have a strange feeling he is just scummy, scummy town.
Plus I think it's tans PLUS Umbrage BUT NOT Zodiark. I find it very unlikely that three scum would ALL just cross-bus on Day 1.

:(
I think it's more likely to be Umbrage PLUS Zodiark, and thus not tans.

RC wrote:Why are you so sure the doctor will protect you, Nacho? Are you just trying to WIFOM scum away from killing you? Not to mention, if you're scum, you've just given yourself the perfect excuse for "why it wasn't YOU that died last night", if anybody asks. Being of course: "ohhh because they thought the doc would be protecting me, duh". #424 is bad all around. ZING or no.

The doc will protect me.
But I don't want to tell you exactly why because as long as this looks like WIFOMing scum, the scum will shoot me.
And if the scum shoot me, then the story I detailed recently will be on its way to being true.

RC wrote:And to boot, I think NS's "I've seen enough, Shun Zod" post warrants severe suspicion. That reeks of opportunism at the end of the day, while still having the excuse of "ohhh but you guys, there was a deadline. i'm sorry i thought thats what town wanted". Ummm. How about NO.

NS would not pull that with me as town or scum.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:28 pm

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ReaperCharlie wrote:p-ebwodp (lol): <3 to Umbrage for shunning tans.

TANS IS BETTER TO LYNCH THAN ZODIARK.

SEE THE LIGHT.


His vote was already on me from before. Pay more attention to the game RC, you are making it quite clear that you are skimming scum.

Especially since you already commented on his earlier vote.

If you don't switch to Zod like you said before deadline that will cement my opinion that you are scum.

Hurry up RC and buss Zod, who is most likely your partner this game
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Umbrage wrote:
Shun: tans


Now that he's claimed, he dies. No excuses. Pull your heads out of your asses and kill some scum now. I'm not lynching Zod. tans wants him dead and that's enough to convince me he's probably town.


And what about the reverse? If I get lynched, when I flip town, will that be enough to convince you that Zod is scum?
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:55 pm

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tanstalas wrote:
Umbrage wrote:
Shun: tans


Now that he's claimed, he dies. No excuses. Pull your heads out of your asses and kill some scum now. I'm not lynching Zod. tans wants him dead and that's enough to convince me he's probably town.


And what about the reverse? If I get lynched, when I flip town, will that be enough to convince you that Zod is scum?

Why do you keep stating that a scum flip or a town flip should convince someone of another person's alignment. In a game where we could have multiple scum groups and possible third parties this is so not the case. You're push for a self lynch irritates me to no end and while I agree with some of the case that has been built on Zod you continue to push for his lynch with statements like these:
tanstalas wrote:
(@RC)

If you don't switch to Zod like you said before deadline that will cement my opinion that you are scum.

tanstalas wrote:
If we don't lynch someone, scum get a free kill. Now, are you going to part of the solution or the problem?

tanstalas wrote:You'd prefer a no lynch and let scum have a free kill tonight?

These are almost like threats and it really bugs me that you sound like you are bullying others into agreeing with you.

I was jokingly speculating about lovers being the pink and blue unicorns, but I do believe that lynching potential lovers at this point might be a mistake. I would assume one of them is most likely scum but I would really like to
hear from Hiraki
to see if he confirms Zod's claim before we lynch him.

I would like to see the lurkylurky Charlie get some pressure but as everyone has pointed out we are drawing near deadline and it's time to pick a lynch.

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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 5:58 pm

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Stefunnny wrote:You're push for a self lynch irritates me to no end and while I agree with some of the case that has been built on Zod you continue to push for his lynch with statements like these:

Oh please do not push a lynch based on irritation. Please.

Stefunny wrote:I was jokingly speculating about lovers being the pink and blue unicorns, but I do believe that lynching potential lovers at this point might be a mistake. I would assume one of them is most likely scum but I would really like to hear from Hiraki to see if he confirms Zod's claim before we lynch him.

Hmmm?

Hiraki confirms: LYNCH ZOD
Hiraki denies: LYNCH ZOD

Seems to me there's really nor reason to wait.

Anyways, if you don't switch to Zod, I will never let you borrow the orange crayon at recess ever again :(
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Tans pushing for a self lynch doesn't irk you in the slightest? I've not had a lot of experience with this situation, but the few times I have seen this happen it's been a great way for scum to discourage their own lynch.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:10 pm

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Stefunny wrote:Tans pushing for a self lynch doesn't irk you in the slightest? I've not had a lot of experience with this situation, but the few times I have seen this happen it's been a great way for scum to discourage their own lynch.


Why would I have done that if I was not town? We are coming close to a deadline and a mislynch is better than a no lynch.

I'll self hammer at L1 if we get there. Like I said a mislynch is better than a no lynch, and I'd rather not be in a game where town obv has their head up their ass.

Am I at L-1?
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:13 pm

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Stefunny wrote:Tans pushing for a self lynch doesn't irk you in the slightest? I've not had a lot of experience with this situation, but the few times I have seen this happen it's been a great way for scum to discourage their own lynch.

It irks me for idiotic play, but it's not a scumtell.
This has happened to me a lot lately (METROPOLIS by reapercharlie and IN THE COURT OF GODS by zoraster are the poignant examples), and I've pushed the lynches of the self-voting bastards like a good townie should. And yet, they keep flipping town.

This one is at least somewhat bordering on townie because of the VT claim refuting Umbragescum. Also, I've never actually seen scum do it when they weren't the leading bandwagon. It's more of a last result type deal.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:19 pm

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Stefunny wrote:Tans pushing for a self lynch doesn't irk you in the slightest? I've not had a lot of experience with this situation, but the few times I have seen this happen it's been a great way for scum to discourage their own lynch.


Link me to examples when you were in a game and this happened.

I know it does happen, but I want to see if you were actually in games like you said when this happened.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:21 pm

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EBWOP: And by example of your 'experience' in this I mean when someone who is SCUM claims VT when they do not have the biggest wagon at the time when they self voted AND it is close to a no lynch situation
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:26 pm

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Nacho, I'd like to apologize to you. In the past I have had a hard time dealing with you because I think perhaps you pushed a lynch on me and I was town, and it made me angry. I let emotions affect my feelings toward certain players but I've kind of changed my perspective of other people in the game as of late.

Your last few posts have made more sense than most of the crap in this thread and you are actually quite persuasive. I didn't think about Hiraki denying the lovers claim and what affect it would have on my views of Zod. You pointed out both situations and what they would mean. While I'm not convinced that Tans is town and that his VT claim/self lynch was town motivated your posts are :Good posting:

I suppose if it came down to last minute I would consider Zod, but I would really like to see Hiraki's reaction before we potentially lynch him. I still would rather see a Tans lynch, but I agree that a no lynch is not a good situation.

@Tans, your ebwop post has circumstances that are not what I was referring to, but I have seen scum self vote/threaten to self hammer. I will have to go back and do some rereading in previous games (At least one situation was on MS) so it might take me a few.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed May 18, 2011 6:36 pm

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EBWOP: I've only been in a few games on site but I found at least one of them this game is one example.
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