Mafia 125: Khan's Game of Mafia (Game Over)

Fate · Post Post #2150 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 6:30 am

So now you're being picky about what scumtells you HAVE been caught on?

LOL

Starbuck · Post Post #2151 (ISO) » Thu May 19, 2011 11:07 am

I haven't been caught on any scum tells because I'm not scum.

You are blatantly lying about me and I'm not gonna let that slide.

The Fonz · Post Post #2152 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 2:13 am

@Korlash: You're right, RC's vote for Kmd is based on a really weak point, compared to his consistent attacking of CB. Also, he tries to accuse the Bob wagon of being a 'policy lynch' which wasn't true, and is also a very common argument scum use to defend buddies. Man, I'm torn again now.

Starbuck feels like her irritating, self-righteous, snarky town self here. Star, can you provide some scum meta?

iamausername · Post Post #2153 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 4:23 am

iamausername wrote:
Fate wrote:You were fake suspicious of him, so therefore you COULDNT claim him as an innocent on N2, when you were deciding your FAKECLAIM.

So what you're saying is that you think I was fake suspicious of Korlash on D3, then suddenly stopped being fake suspicious of Korlash on D4 for... no reason whatsoever, THEN decided on D5 to claim that I had found him innocent on N3?

hey

hey fate

you don't get to ignore this just because starbuck is still screaming "lynch me lynch me i'm the mislynch please lynch me me meeeee"

Fate · Post Post #2154 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 9:18 am

I still haven't crosschecked your ISO for those days, but YEAH that's about what I'm saying. Aka the D4 for scumreasons you drop Korlash as a "suspect" and buddy up to him, then when reviewing you play for a fakeclaim you see Korlash as someone you can pass off as an innocent.

I've fakeclaimed A LOT in my time, I know how it works

Fate · Post Post #2155 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 9:18 am

Keep calling your buddy a mislynch though, real cute.

Kublai Khan · Post Post #2156 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 9:23 am

Day 5 Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 4

"I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it,
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it,
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin',
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin'"

- Bob Dylan

Starbuck

- 3 - PokerFace, Fate, RedCoyote

Fate

- 2 - Korlash, iamausername

PokerFace

- 1 - The Fonz

RedCoyote

- 1 - Starbuck

Players not voting:

none!

Notes/Prods

:
- Activity great!
- Deadline Secret
- PokerFace will be V/LA June 2-6

Fate · Post Post #2157 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 9:25 am

Iam is in NO WAY going to bus today.

His plan is probably to mislynch Me/Red today and fake a guilty lon the last tomorrow for a win.

WE NEED ALL TOWN ON THIS SBUCK LYNCH

Korlash · Post Post #2158 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 5:04 pm

Fonz wrote:@Korlash: You're right

That's going to haunt you for a while... Somewhere out there a room full of people are shaking their heads in disappointment.

Fate wrote:I still haven't crosschecked your ISO for those days, but YEAH that's about what I'm saying. Aka the D4 for scumreasons you drop Korlash as a "suspect" and buddy up to him, then when reviewing you play for a fakeclaim you see Korlash as someone you can pass off as an innocent.

And he was hiding on a grassy knoll phoning area 51 about the fake moon landing! But shhh... it's suppose to be a secret.

Starbuck · Post Post #2159 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 11:18 pm

So Fate, are you saying since I'm town that I should vote for myself?

That's not really kosher.

Starbuck · Post Post #2160 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2011 11:19 pm

Unvote
Vote: Fate

The Fonz · Post Post #2161 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 12:26 am

No, Fate's saying you're scum. And you knew that.

Starbuck · Post Post #2162 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 5:10 am

Fate said that we need all town on my lynch, so therefore he's saying that since I'm town that I should vote for myself.

Fate · Post Post #2163 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 5:43 am

This isn't even mafia anymore.

Starbuck is playing the "I'm so cheeky and obstinate I'm townnn" card.

I lynch that shit on site. Sbuck has not done one protown thing since replacing in

Starbuck · Post Post #2164 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 9:55 am

I'm not playing any card.

I decided to try and do something different this time with replacing in and it obviously backfired. I still think I drummed up some good info, and I hope it can be used if I'm lynched and when you all see I'm telling the truth.

iamausername · Post Post #2165 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 9:14 pm

I am going to be V/LA until Tuesday

Sorry bout that.

Starbuck · Post Post #2166 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2011 10:56 pm

So Fonz, I think this has gone on long enough and it's time for you to make a decision.

RedCoyote · Post Post #2167 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 2:13 am

Starbuck 2148 wrote:I haven't said content later or scum on my wagon.

Gosh, this is really so bad. If you deconstruct this sentence for she's actually saying here, she's just completely stonewalling Fate (and, by extension, all of us).

So do you think there is scum on your wagon or don't you?

Starbuck 2151 wrote:I haven't been caught on any scum tells because I'm not scum.

Your smug anti-town act is not convincing me at all.

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Fonz 2152 wrote:he tries to accuse the Bob wagon of being a 'policy lynch' which wasn't true

I will say, in complete honesty, that I saw Cyber as town throughout the majority of this game. The only point that I ever really changed that was yesterday when I was feeling particularly down thanks to the unsuccessful predictions I had consistently had up until that point. I wanted to strongly emphasize that I was completely doing a 180 on Cyber mostly because of DGB's scumhunting.

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Fate 2163 wrote:Starbuck is playing the "I'm so cheeky and obstinate I'm townnn" card.

I lynch that shit on site. Sbuck has not done one protown thing since replacing in

I wish you were around when Ojanen had the slot. D1 and D2 were fun as hell, man.

But, yeah, that's the perfect word for it. Cheeky. Obstinate. Bull-headed. She won't give an inch, and I don't know what to do to make her.

She should not be rewarded for this behavior though, I know that much.

I've laid out the case here, here, and here. If Starbuck was willing to give us anything, anything at all, then I might be willing to really make the push for PF today, who I think has an equal or better shot at flipping scum, but there's still absolutely solid precedent for lynching Starbuck today. It should not be thought of as something to settle on, but as a very rational choice.

There are two very important questions you can ask yourself that will help you come to realization that Starbuck is a good choice.

1) Who do I think is least likely to be the Vig?

The answer is Starbuck. The kills clearly don't matchup with the slot's suspicions. I can elaborate on this if necessary, but it would do you good to look over this yourselves. I cannot say the same thing about Fate at all. The people voting Fate need to seriously go sync these two players up side-by-side if they haven't already.

2) Who has had the least impact on this game overall?

The Mod has 42 VCs in this game.

Total VCs Starbuck's slot is voting no one:

27 of 42

(if that doesn't put things into perspective, I don't know what will.)
Total VCs Fate's slot is voting no one: 2 of 42
Total VCs RC is voting no one: 1 of 42

There have been four lynches in this game.

Total amount of lynch wagons Starbuck's slot was on: 0 of 4
Total amount of lynch wagons Fate's slot was on: 2 of 4
Total amount of lynch wagons RC was on: 4 of 4

Starbuck claims her not being a factor in this game is a positive for her, and me and Fate (even though 2 out of 4 is not a large amount by any stretch) being on a lot of lynch wagons is bad news for our slots. I can tell you right now that I would take being on four mislynches over no lynches at all coming into D5 any day of the week. For all the bad things you can say about me, I have been trying in this game. Starbuck's slot is the one that has been coasting. Her not voting in 27 of 42 VCs is unheard of. Hell, the only reason why it isn't, like, 31 of 42 is because I basically twisted her arm to MAKE her vote today. If I hadn't have turned the screws on her, she might

still

be voting no one.

Korlash, username, and Fonz, consider the above. Please don't tell me Fate is a better lynch here. Like I said, I'd be more than willing to argue the merits of PF today, but, otherwise, Starbuck needs to go. No amount of gut can write the heaping amount of evidence here off. It is unacceptable for you to simply dismiss her for being cheeky any longer. She's being lynched on a firm foundation of scummy behavior.

Starbuck · Post Post #2168 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:03 am

RedCoyote wrote:Starbuck claims her not being a factor in this game is a positive for her

MISREPRESENTATION.

I never said that.

RedCoyote · Post Post #2169 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:04 am

That's all you have to say?

Starbuck · Post Post #2170 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:06 am

You've been going after me all day, Red. I don't expect you to stop now, but just where did I say that? Hmmm?

Give me a quote, please.

Starbuck · Post Post #2171 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:07 am

You also didn't "basically twist my arm". Quit taking credit where there's no credit to take.

RedCoyote · Post Post #2172 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:25 am

Starbuck 2170 wrote:Give me a quote, please.

Starbuck 2055 wrote:I know I really haven't brought anything to the table. It's been awhile since I've replaced in to a game longer than 20-30 pages.

If you thought not bringing anything to the table was scummy, you wouldn't be doing it, no? I mean, by all means, correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love nothing more than for you to tell us more about your performance in this game.

Starbuck 2171 wrote:You also didn't "basically twist my arm". Quit taking credit where there's no credit to take.

Actions speak louder than words, hon.

RC 2050 wrote:You've been in this game for 18 days and you never casted a vote, never so much as gave this game the time of day. Either get out of here or give us something real to chew on.

Ten Minutes Later (Literally)...

Starbuck 2052 wrote:But that's okay because as scum, you'll latch on to that to make me look scummy and get an easy lynch out of it.

Vote: RedCoyote

Starbuck · Post Post #2173 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 4:43 am

RedCoyote wrote:If you thought not bringing anything to the table was scummy, you wouldn't be doing it, no?

But I have brought items of discussion to the table. It may not be exactly what you are looking for me to bring, but I brought some bacon.

RedCoyote wrote:Actions speak louder than words, hon.

But you still didn't twist my arm, dear.

Korlash · Post Post #2174 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2011 6:06 am

RC wrote:She should not be rewarded for this behavior though, I know that much.

I don't actually think lynching someone else qualifies as rewarding Star...

RC wrote:1) Who do I think is least likely to be the Vig?

*clap* great argument man... If not being the vig makes a person scum then I'm afraid for us... That seems to be a lot of scum...

Star wrote:2) Who has had the least impact on this game overall?

what? The most replaced slot has had the least impact on the game? No wai... That's not true... That's impossible!!!!

RC wrote:Total amount of lynch wagons Starbuck's slot was on: 0 of 4

Didn't want to put me in that list eh? Afraid she wouldn't stand out as much?

RC wrote:I wanted to strongly emphasize that I was completely doing a 180 on Cyber mostly because of DGB's scumhunting.

that only makes it worse to me.

RC wrote:Starbuck claims her not being a factor in this game is a positive for her

Will you actually be able to, at some point, provide a quote to back this one up?