Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[Empking]

That looks like misrepresentation. MOS is saying your ideas on that players should only be on the large wagons near deadline seemed to have changed now you're under fire.

[Magua]

That looks like misrepresentation. MOS is saying your ideas on that players should only be on the large wagons near deadline seemed to have changed now you're under fire.

*looks at votecount*

Is 2 that much less than 3 now? Ant has two votes. I want people to vote Ant.

I don't particularly want people to vote Peregrine. I've never encouraged people to vote Peregrine. I wanted Ant to clarify his statement from his actions. If MoS wants to believe I was trying to get Ant to vote Peregrine, he can believe this, but it doesn't make it true.

Case in point: I've not bothered MoS or mikeburnfire about their votes on me. Me questioning ATTM isn't because he's voting me. It's because I think he's scum.

[Magua]

Double post:

...or are you so desperate to not get lynched that you'd encourage others to abandon the best practices you advocated yesterday?

If I'm so desperate to avoid being lynched, why am I not encouraging people to vote dana?

[mikeburnfire]

Magua, I'm sorry, but the only way you'll get a lynch on Ant is if you outright claim to be a daycop with a guilty. Go ahead. Do it for the lolz.

[Ant_to_the_max]

Why is Peregrine a better lynch when you are voting me, and there are three votes on me compared to 0 on Peregrine?

I find that either one is acceptable to me.

@Ant- Um, regarding my post above this one, here is one example.

But that is MoS stepping in for me =/

But yes, dana will get a look into.

[mikeburnfire]

^ Before or after Night Phase?

By the way, seeing as how I'm such a keen eye, and everyone considers me to be town, I'll probably die tonight. If this is the case, it's been a pleasure playing with you.

[danakillsu]

PeregrineV - Why the dana vote? Who's case are you agreeing with on her being scummy?

Well, if you look at Dana day1 and Dana day2, do you see a difference? We have more information to work with (all of day1), yet his activity has decreased in both quality and quantity. I feel like it could be because with 2 dead town, scum doesn't have to work as hard? No hard evidence yet.

How do you see a decrease in quantity and quality as compared to the rest of the players? I'm not seeing that at all. Also, assuming there was one, that's a pretty lame argument for a couple of reasons. With 2 dead town, scum would be working harder, since there would be a greater likelihood of them getting lynched. But even if you assume you're right about that....let's say we had 2 dead scum already somehow. I can pretty easily see you saying that I'm scum trying to fly under the radar now that his scumbuddies are dead by posting as little as possible. I don't think what you're saying here is remotely accepted site-wide.

[Mastermind of Sin]

That looks like misrepresentation. MOS is saying your ideas on that players should only be on the large wagons near deadline seemed to have changed now you're under fire.

*looks at votecount*

Is 2 that much less than 3 now? Ant has two votes. I want people to vote Ant.

I don't particularly want people to vote Peregrine. I've never encouraged people to vote Peregrine. I wanted Ant to clarify his statement from his actions. If MoS wants to believe I was trying to get Ant to vote Peregrine, he can believe this, but it doesn't make it true.

Case in point: I've not bothered MoS or mikeburnfire about their votes on me. Me questioning ATTM isn't because he's voting me. It's because I think he's scum.

I didn't claim that you were trying to get Ant to vote Peregrine. I claimed that you were questioning his lack of vote on Peregrine, and that if he *had* been voting Peregrine it would be in violation of the ideas *you* professed yesterday. So thus I question why you wondered why he wasn't voting Peregrine, when it should have made perfect sense to you.

[Magua]

I didn't claim that you were trying to get Ant to vote Peregrine. I claimed that you were questioning his lack of vote on Peregrine, and that if he *had* been voting Peregrine it would be in violation of the ideas *you* professed yesterday. So thus I question why you wondered why he wasn't voting Peregrine, when it should have made perfect sense to you.

I find consistency to be the hobgoblin of small minds.

And, no, "perfect sense" to me would be something like "Magua and Peregrine are both scummy, but Magua is the better lynch." That would've made perfect sense to me, and I would've moved on with my life. But that's not what he said. He said something that didn't make sense to me. Which is why I asked the question. A nice, orderly progression.

[PeregrineV]

PeregrineV - Why the dana vote? Who's case are you agreeing with on her being scummy?

Well, if you look at Dana day1 and Dana day2, do you see a difference? We have more information to work with (all of day1), yet his activity has decreased in both quality and quantity. I feel like it could be because with 2 dead town, scum doesn't have to work as hard? No hard evidence yet.

How do you see a decrease in quantity and quality as compared to the rest of the players? I'm not seeing that at all. Also, assuming there was one, that's a pretty lame argument for a couple of reasons. With 2 dead town, scum would be working harder, since there would be a greater likelihood of them getting lynched. But even if you assume you're right about that....let's say we had 2 dead scum already somehow. I can pretty easily see you saying that I'm scum trying to fly under the radar now that his scumbuddies are dead by posting as little as possible. I don't think what you're saying here is remotely accepted site-wide.

So you feel your level of play this day is better or the same as day1?
I have seen a decrease in some people, and I've been hitting them up for more gameplay.
I feel the oppposite. I have less material day 1 as town, so that's my hardest day to play. As the game goes on, there is more data to use.
For example- what do you think of Thor? What do you think of Magua? What do you think of Mikeburnfire?

[Mastermind of Sin]

fyi I will be V/LA from June 2-6, I'm leaving for the weekend on Thursday morning.

[ooba]

To be honest, I can see where Magua is coming from with this ..

At least the one time, I saw a player going "I find X & Y scummy; Y more than X" but chose to vote X; it was a scum move.

[ooba]

I can see Ant~MoS links with the recent exchanges ..

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastermind of Sin
@RC- Do you think it would be more advantageous to policy lynch MBF over MoS?
I personally feel that would be the better pick out of the two.

I never could understand the hammer as the mod specifically told us we had an extension. Given the late day wagon-buildup on MoS (Per+RC), it can make sense

I read it as we get 48 hours AFTER we get a replacement, so we do NOT have two more days, right now we have less than 2 hours. I will give EP 1 (ONE) hour to get in here before I switch my vote

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Give me another two hours to re-read with MoS,Ant scum in mind and I'll tell you my thoughts. In either case (dana\CDB scum or MoS\Ant scum), I will NOT support the following lynches for today - MBF, Per or Magua.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I still don't understand either of those groupings...

[danakillsu]

For example- what do you think of Thor? What do you think of Magua? What do you think of Mikeburnfire?

It's not like I haven't said anything about the three of them, and I've even given my read specifically on mbf, so I won't be saying anything more about him. Thor is a town read of mine. His play is mostly consistent with what I've seen from town-Thor in the past, and it's generally helpful to the town. Magua is pretty null for me, and I think Magua's normally pretty difficult to read. He might be slightly toward scum.

[Ant_to_the_max]

I'm going to be V/LA for a week and a half starting Friday anyway, so I won't be around to help out during an extension anyway. We'll just have to make a decision before the deadline, although it's gonna suck.

fyi I will be V/LA from June 2-6, I'm leaving for the weekend on Thursday morning.

This just stuck out to me. Both times they have been conveniently close/on the deadline. I am going to leave this here and think about it some more.

[Mastermind of Sin]

lol...do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

[Ant_to_the_max]

No. Enlighten me.

[Magua]

A tad less than 36 hours until deadline unless we're definitely getting a CDB replacement and a deadline extension.

The votes, as so:

Ragnarokio (2): danakillsu, Empking
Ant_to_the_max (2): Ragnarokio, Magua
danakillsu (3): ooba, Thor665, PeregrineV
Magua (3): Ant_to_the_max, Mastermind of Sin, mikeburnfire

I'm town. I think Ragnarokio is town. I'm meh on danakillsu, but I also don't have a scumread on him.

I'll vote danakillsu close to deadline, as I assume he will vote me. But in preference to both of those, I'd much prefer to just lynch Ant.

[Mastermind of Sin]

No. Enlighten me.

The implication that my V/LA has anything to do with this game is just stupid. You do realize that this isn't the only game I'm involved in, right? My previous V/LA also fell on the deadline of the game I'm modding, and I had to have my co-mod take over to close out the day.

[Thor665]

Unvote: danakillsu
Vote; Magua

Boats.
Are rocked.

[Thor665]

Vote: Magua

Semi-colon; not to be clever.

[ooba]

Unvote. Vote:Ant_to_the_max

MoS, I'll try and explain both my groupings in detail ..

[danakillsu]

Hey... what do you know? I finally got around to checking this, and I have 19 posts in 10 pages today (not including this one), whereas I had 41 posts in 24 pages yesterday. That's 1.9 posts per page today compared to 1.71 posts per page yesterday. Note that I'm not trying to use this to say that I'm posting a ton of content, or more content than somebody else, just to dispel the notion that as compared to the other players, my posting has dropped in frequency.

[Magua]

Vote: Magua

Semi-colon; not to be clever.

You can only vote me if you show MS Paint pictures of us fighting.