Open 309 - Fire and Ice [Game Over]

[Kcdaspot]

from the top.

A case on nikanor

All quotes are by him so let's start... I'll link at times to prevent ultra quote stripe-ing

Iso 3:

HOW THE FUCK IS THAT HYPOCRITICAL

(Sorry, just wanted an excuse to post that. )

Unvote. Vote: Robocopter87.

He's not trying to scumhunt. He is attacking silavor and calling him a hypocrite, yet his vote is parked on 'not voting'.

fluff then the fourth vote on the robo wagon. states a reason, still scummish. "LOL at Silavor! robo scum thoo..."

Iso 6:

lol

Can we lynch Toro after we're done with Robochoppah?

setting up a lynch. scummy as fuck.

Iso 8

"I want to lynch toro!" but your vote is on robo.

and then in iso 10:

Unvote. Vote: Hiraki.

omg matt y r u delaying

... this was two posts later mind you

then his next two posts are hops to me and Tid?
Keeps his vote on tid for "lurkingscum" and then fluff posts two consecutive times tacking on the "lol silavor might be scum vs. otherscumteam robo" to the second. In FIVE POSTS He goes from toro is scum to robo while calling matt out for delaying to me for NO REASON to TID for "lurking"? and now he says he suspects silavor. IN FIVE POSTS. why did we not lynch him then?

next post says the he supports the robo but now suspects and wants to hear from tid, but he's sick so "lolbai"
then he says he is unsick and wants to say something but "Don't lynch robo!!!"
AND THEN THIS He tells robo to claim! ..... to which he does and then he goes and votes YOYO FOR NO REASON.

but what happened to the thing he needed to say?

"LOLFORGOT"

so why did he vote yoyo?

YOYO IS SCUMMIER THAN ROBO!!11!! so what the hell happened to the suspicion on toro? on tid? hell on silavor? what did it go "LOLPOOFTHEYNOTSCUMMYANYMORELOLKTHX"? this is just scummy as all get out.

and thats D1... srsly.

actually i could go on. but i think my case is made.

nikanor is the lynch today.

[MehPlusRawr]

He made a case on a townie, and is now lurking. I don't see how that's town.

Not town != scum.
Making a case on a townie is not scummy, especially in this setup where everyone should logically be doing their best to hunt scum.
And I was lurking because I unexpectedly had no internet access since two days ago. Unless you meant the lurking in general, which was an unfortunate side effect of joining a few more games, but I'm trying to become more active in them now.

...annd ninja'd with a case.

Yeah, I think I prefer Nik to Hiraki/Toro today, for reasons posted by kcda but also because his posts give me something of a strange feeling. He really hasn't posted anything of value at all, it seems to be mostly questioning and fluff. He has pretty much no reasoning for any votes.

Vote: Nikanor

[Nikanor]

Okay, do I actually have to go and make a case on Toro? That would be fucking ridiculous as he's really obviously scum, but y'know. Whatever.

He's not trying to scumhunt. He is attacking silavor and calling him a hypocrite, yet his vote is parked on 'not voting'.

fluff then the fourth vote on the robo wagon. states a reason, still scummish. "LOL at Silavor! robo scum thoo..."

a) It isn't fluff, it's a joke. There is a huge difference. I can explain it if you do not understand.
b) Making a joke before making a vote is not scummy.
c) Would you like to attack my reasoning for voting Robo? It's good logic, so I don't see why you'd have a problem with it.
d) Fourth vote isn't scummy, etc. etc.

setting up a lynch. scummy as fuck.

"Lining up lynches" is a tell, but you're not using it correctly. It would be scummy if I had said, "If Robo flips {town,scum}, I'm going after Toro." What I said is not scummy.

Iso8: "I want to lynch toro!" but your vote is on robo.

As you've already pointed out, I had said in my iso6 that I wanted to lynch Toro after lynching Robo.

Vote: Hiraki.

... this was two posts later mind you

I voted Hiraki to see Toro's reaction. If you had been looking at context, Toro had said that if a wagon on Hiraki had appeared out of nowhere, he would unvote Hiraki. So I voted Hiraki to see what Toro would say.
In other words, my vote on Hiraki had nothing to do with Hiraki.

Keeps his vote on tid for "lurkingscum" and then fluff posts two consecutive times tacking on the "lol silavor might be scum vs. otherscumteam robo" to the second. In FIVE POSTS He goes from toro is scum to robo while calling matt out for delaying to me for NO REASON to TID for "lurking"? and now he says he suspects silavor. IN FIVE POSTS. why did we not lynch him then?

This paragraph is hard to follow, so I'll try to address each of my votes in point form.
a) I never had any serious suspicion of silavor. I thought that it was possible, but I never followed through with it because it was really weak.
b) I was joking about calling matt out for delaying. Hence the deliberate spelling mistakes. Did you actually think that was serious?
c) My vote on Tid followed a reread that I did after Robo asked me to be serious. My reasoning behind my vote was sound, so I don't know why you're attacking that.

next post says the he supports the robo but now suspects and wants to hear from tid, but he's sick so "lolbai"
then he says he is unsick and wants to say something but "Don't lynch robo!!!"
AND THEN THIS He tells robo to claim! ..... to which he does and then he goes and votes YOYO FOR NO REASON.

a) Do you doubt that I was sick?
b) I asked Robo if he wanted to claim because I figured that was the best way to get a read on him. I had decided before I made that post that I was going to hammer Robo if he claimed anything but townie, and vote Yoyo if Robo did claim townie. Robo claimed townie, so.
c) Do you think that I said "I have something important to say" then pretended to forget for some reason? Because that doesn't make any sense.

YOYO IS SCUMMIER THAN ROBO!!11!! so what the hell happened to the suspicion on toro? on tid? hell on silavor? what did it go "LOLPOOFTHEYNOTSCUMMYANYMORELOLKTHX"? this is just scummy as all get out.

It was four days until the deadline and the only two wagons were on Yoyo and Robo. Do you expect me to try to start a wagon that late in the day? Ridiculous.

Feel free to continue. I can refute or explain anything you say. It would be nice if you would save time by just voting Toroscum, but whatever.

[Nikanor]

I quote failed again.

CIRNO HALP ME.

[MehPlusRawr]

Defense but no offense?

[Cirno]

Official Vote Count as of post #679

Toro (3)- Hiraki Nikanor Amor
Hiraki (2)- silavor Toro
Nikanor (2)- Kcdaspot MehPlusRawr

Not Voting (2)- projectmatt Alduskkel

With

9

alive, it takes

5

to lynch.

You can always see the countdown to the deadline in the OP. It is on June 28th at 3:36pm cdt.

Looking for a replacement for Alduskkel.

>playing on EM
>roll cult
>see a guy named projectmatt with the same avatar
>cult him
>he immediately suicides

You're gonna get yours, bro.

[Hiraki]

Defense but no offense?

Why would he give offense?

Nikanor said nothing about KCDAscum.

[silavor]

Nikanor, give us your case on KCDA.

[Hiraki]

Nikanor said nothing about KCDAscum.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: I said that, not Nikanor.

[projectmatt]

>playing on EM
>roll cult
>see a guy named projectmatt with the same avatar
>cult him
>he immediately suicides

You're gonna get yours, bro.

Haha, my playing usually isn't that wreck-less. It was the unranked lobby though and there was a ranked game with people that I really wanted to play with. n_n

ALSO - I did a re-read and fuck my life. Hikari is townie, and Toro has said some incredibly odd things today but both are solid town reads.

Yes, I am taking the cop out and falling back on the two I am pretty sure actually

are

scum. KDCA just actually started to contribute, but I'll give it a fair shot. Nikanor. I want you to make a case on KDCA, if you could. He's one of your fos's, right?

[Nikanor]

>playing on EM

>roll cult
>see a guy named projectmatt with the same avatar
>cult him
>he immediately suicides

>stopped playing on EM

FTFY.

Kcda is not one of my scum reads. Toro has said odd things today because he is scum. Either bus Toro or vote me, please.

[Toro]

Uh...Nik? That's the mod.

[Cirno]

scratch that.

[Hiraki]

....

[silavor]

matt, you should bus Toro already.

I'm voting MPR tomorrow, btw. You know, after Toro's scum flip.

So wait, matt and MPR are toro's buddies?

In a game where each scum team has two partners?

Nikanor, explain your reads. And give a case on Toro, you haven't actually explained why you've tunneled on him all day.

[Hiraki]

silavor. You're dead tomorrow.

I hope you realize this.

That's all.

[projectmatt]

Fuck this.

I've given you a chance, but I'm convinced that Nikanor's tunnel on me is an excuse for him to push on somebody randomly and never get much backlash, because, well, the person he is tunelling on is a "newbie" and he won't get much backlash for it, because, well, I'm a newbie.

matt, you should bus Toro already.

This is Nik's first actual mention of me in terms of his read. Though, we have directly interacted before. Baseless? Seemingly, yes. So, when asked about it, his response is:

itz cuz im a geenass

You've explained your reasoning for Toro being scum (HAHA, JUST KIDDING. YOU HAVEN'T.) I would expect any player who is going to give off such blatant comments to be able to at least SLIGHTLY back up his points.

Oh, and here's another jewel from Nikanor:

tbf I'll probably vote matt tomorrow so that we can go down to one kill a night. I'm just trying to scare him into making a post.

Well, I DO think this makes my accusation on him attempting to push for a random lynch on someone who isn't completely accustomed to defending themselves evident. He thinks he can "scare me" into posting, and again, this posts addresses me as nothing more then some random n00b.

Now, do you see what I'm getting at here? If his entire focus is just on Toro, he'll look bad. He needs an easy target..

Well, then I proceed to call Nikanor out about the tunnel, and of course, it is subsequently ignored and a few posts later, he says yet again:

. Either bus Toro or vote me, please.

Oh, but there's more random contradictions aside. From a few posts earlier:

I'm voting MPR tomorrow, btw. You know, after Toro's scum flip.

Is it me and Toro or Toro and MPR?

Oh, and just one more thing, to you know, seal the deal: All posts quoted were made less then one page ago.

I think I've made my point abundantly clear. Nikanor, you're getting lynched today.

VOTE: Nikanor

[Toro]

silavor. You're dead tomorrow.

I hope you realize this.

That's all.

The anger is strong with this one, how many people have you pulled this on now?

[Hiraki]

2.

[silavor]

silavor. You're dead tomorrow.

I hope you realize this.

That's all.

Are you finally admitting to being scum?

Finally.

[Hiraki]

GOOD ONE.

[silavor]

If you're not claiming scum, then why am I dead tomorrow?

[Hiraki]

Are you honestly this brain dead?

[Alduskkel]

Hey, don't replace me. I should have a post up reasonably soon (within 24 hours or so).