NY135: Sexy Sedilla Semi-Open - Town Wins

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Yosarian2 (3): Swag136, Untrod Tripod, Empking
Hiraki (1): dramonic
Îdher (1): Oversoul
Empking (3): kunkstar7, saporovirus, Yosarian2
Chair (1): SpyreX
Untrod Tripod (6): Chair, mastin2, T-Bone, Ethos, Hiraki, Knight of Cydonia

Not voting: kanyeknowsbest, Îdher

Deadline is in (expired on 2011-06-27 21:00:00).
With

17

alive, it takes

9

votes to lynch!

Warning: deadline rapidly approaching.

[Ethos]

Hiraki isn't a terrible shot, but I think Swag or Kanye are about 1000x better. Regfan and I plan on getting a reads list out tonight, I am sure everything has changed with Emp-Vig.

[dramonic]

Hiraki is always a good shot.
And I haven't even read the game too!
I'm going to ask Ethos to post his read list in the QT too, since now he, I and Bone are all giant NK targets. Just in case he turns up dead we'll have his opinions on whatever. Not that they'll be super special awesome, but you know, he still is town!

[MrZepher]

unvote

didn't realize I was voting

Sorry guys, just woke up.
get on it now.

I HAS ALL THE BEING BEHIND IN EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

[Oversoul]

Hiraki is always a good shot.
And I haven't even read the game too!
I'm going to ask Ethos to post his read list in the QT too, since now he, I and Bone are all giant NK targets. Just in case he turns up dead we'll have his opinions on whatever. Not that they'll be super special awesome, but you know, he still is town!

This post seems... unneeded.

I am okay with a Hiraki Venge Kill. However, what has priority? A night kill or a venge kill?

[MrZepher]

I'll save my reads for tomorrow since it's almost deadline.

Some points still relevant to today:

Interesting vig claim,
I'm excited to see mastin, but it's unfortunate that he's replacing a slot that I have no reason to believe is town.
Idher's play is interesting in a bad way

Hiraki and KKC are okay
Swag is not a good vig

Actually upon further (ISO) analysis I'm going to change that to Hiraki needs to be the vig
KKC would make me sad in the pants because I would have to work to get Hiraki the rope tomorrow.

Also, I'm okay with an Untrod lynch.
The flip will help my reads, plus he hasn't said much of anything useful in terms of playing like town.

Vote: Untrod Tripod

[Îdher]

We think Untrod is a bad (but not the absolute worst) wagon.

KKB seems to have siteflaked.

KoC is an excellent wagon for several reasons, the least of which is not post 774 which made me laugh out loud.

Hiraki is a good vig shot precisely because he hasn't seemed to realize he is going to be vigged - there are other reasons, but that is a good one.

Oversoul: There are no vengekills in this game.

Zepher: Why are you saving your reads? What possible benefit is there for that?

[Îdher]

Above post was Amrun. Sorry.

[Empking]

Above post was Amrun. Sorry.

Yes but now whose post is this one!

[Îdher]

Oh, and...

Vote: Knights of Cydonia

P-edit: ...

-Amrun

[T-Bone]

That's all well and good Amrun, but what happens when all you vote spreaders cause a no lynch?

[MrZepher]

Zepher: Why are you saving your reads? What possible benefit is there for that?

Because we won't get anywhere right now if I post them and we decide to go with them (not saying that we will, I don't feel like we have the discussion time to deal with them right now). I'm not even that entirely confident with them, this game is so weird.
I'd rather be in a position where I'm more confident in my reads, and we have a flip to help me with that before I put them up.

It saves from distraction where there would be no use for me to put them up now.
It'd be wasted effort on my end since my reads WILL change over the course of the night phase anyways.

[saporovirus]

I don't agree with UT being the #1 lynch. EMPKING GO GO GO.

[Chair]

One last push before I give up and have to swing for a deadline:

I think I forgot that he was one of the masons at first when I was listing my town reads to misder.

-implosion

This needs to be explained asap because it suuure looks like you went "Dramonic is town" but forgot T-Bone without their mason claims being a factor.

Which is absolute teaparty.

Sort of. I don't really remember this well, but i think I had t-bone as kind of scummy, so when i was listing my town reads to misder i forgot to list him as one of the masons. Spyrex, what are you implying with "absolute teaparty?" If you're implying that it's scummy, then how is me not putting the masons together on a list more likely to come from scum than it is to come from town? If not, then what the fuck does "absolute teaparty" mean? Why would it be strange or scummy to, as you said, forget to list t-bone as town without remembering him being a mason?

-implosion

[Hiraki]

Hiraki is a good vig shot precisely because he hasn't seemed to realize he is going to be vigged - there are other reasons, but that is a good one.

I quite realize it.

What do you want me to do? Beg not to be shot? It's the vig's choice. If he thinks I deserve to be shot for my actions, let him decide.

[T-Bone]

Despite his Vig claim Saporo?

[Ethos]

Hey Zepher, opinion on KoC now please.

-Slaxx

[Ethos]

I personally disagree with the Hiraki vig-shot. I understand that some of his actions have been anti-town and he has shown a lack of care to the game but there are much better targets to aim for ie. Kanye. I am also slightly hesitant to continue with the Untrod lynch however given the impending deadline and lack of reasonable alternative I'm going to have to shift my second doubts to the side.

Zepher, I don't understand the refrainment from stating reads at all, sure your reads might change overnight however stating them today allows us to have something to read you based of and gives you a starting spot of where your thoughts on everyone lie, furthermore you should easily be able to explain the change in read from today to tommorow.

Sapor, you've shown a tendancy to refrain from stating any relevant reads or thoughts thus far in the game, since your replacing in you've stated disagreement with a Yos/Ethos lynch while calling Ythanobvtown only to state that you need to re-read Ythan days later with no conclusion noted. Your suspicion of Empking ignores the fact he's claimed Vig and is the complete extent of your 'scumreads' in this game.

Regfan.

[T-Bone]

Shoot Saporo.

[Ethos]

Agreed. A Saporo shot is way better than Hiraki.

[MrZepher]

Null leaning town (actually a little more than leaning). Why?

I mean, he's playing strange, but it's consistent weirdness that I'm blaming on his posting style.
He's playing town enough for me to pass him off for today's lynch, at least until he says something I can't ignore and I double that's going to happen within the next....
20 hours?

PREDIT:
UGH. Fine. Making me waste my time...

Spoiler: Watch List

Main watch list
Dramonic - Null leaning scum
Mastin2 - Probably Scum (Ythan vs Ethos conflict)
KKB - Scum (Is null, but gut makes it lean scum.)
Idher - Null leaning scum (gut read mostly, I find some of their posts strange, but I can't be fucked to find them as of this post)
Hiraki - Scum (Hasn't said anything usefull)
Ethos - Probably town (Ythan vs Ethos conflict)
Empking(as of the vig claim)- Null, leaning somewhere (as of vig claim, WAS just null).


Secondary watch list
Untrod - Scum
KoC - Already listed
Yosarian2 - Null leaning scum, may change
T-Bone - Null

Passing Glance
Sapo - Null leaning town
Spyrex - Town
Chair - Town
Oversoul - Null, newb town
Kunkstar - Null

The watch list goes as thus
Main list: People who that I'm closely watching everything they do/say.
Secondary list: People who I'm paying attention to, but more in terms of how the interact with others
Passing: People who I'm not paying much attention to because they've played town enough; this can change at any point

Also this is a new system for me; I know it's flawed, It's just a system of organization so if it bothers you for whatever reason, take it with a grain of salt.

[SpyreX]

Sort of. I don't really remember this well, but i think I had t-bone as kind of scummy, so when i was listing my town reads to misder i forgot to list him as one of the masons. Spyrex, what are you implying with "absolute teaparty?" If you're implying that it's scummy, then how is me not putting the masons together on a list more likely to come from scum than it is to come from town? If not, then what the fuck does "absolute teaparty" mean? Why would it be strange or scummy to, as you said, forget to list t-bone as town without remembering him being a mason?

-implosion

T-bone kind of scummy being haha aside, this means that you didn't think dram (who's up to as many words as in this post I just quoted) wasn't scummy?

Before I go to sleep tonight if I can't get any bites here I'll move but come on people help me here.

[Ethos]

Dramonic - Null leaning scum
Ethos - Probably town (Ythan vs Ethos conflict)
T-Bone - Null

What? Dram and T-Bone are masons with us, have you even read the thread?

[Hiraki]

(Hasn't said anything usefull)

That answers your question, Ethos.

[MrZepher]

I only caught one of the Mason claims (T-Bone), so I wasn't sure who all was claiming.
Thanks for clearing that up though.

(I did read the thread, but I was doing this weird half/skim thing once my reads started kind of settling)

Besides, Masons are a POSSIBLE role. Obviously I'm still going to be paying attention to what you guys are posting until one of you flips. Duh.