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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:44 pm

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saporovirus wrote:I like Tyrion a lot even though he is sort of a bad man. He has good impulses but often doesn't act on them. I think people who only see the tv series might be fooled into thinking he isn't a bad man.


Hmm? I don't think he's a bad man. I mean, he's loyal to his family, and he's part of the evil family, but he never really does anything I think is morally reprehensible.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:03 pm

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saporovirus wrote:I like Tyrion a lot even though he is sort of a bad man. He has good impulses but often doesn't act on them. I think people who only see the tv series might be fooled into thinking he isn't a bad man.


Hmm? I don't think he's a bad man. I mean, he's loyal to his family, and he's part of the evil family, but he never really does anything I think is morally reprehensible.


He's a morally neutral man, maybe.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:07 pm

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saporovirus wrote:I like Tyrion a lot even though he is sort of a bad man. He has good impulses but often doesn't act on them. I think people who only see the tv series might be fooled into thinking he isn't a bad man.


Hmm? I don't think he's a bad man. I mean, he's loyal to his family, and he's part of the evil family, but he never really does anything I think is morally reprehensible.


He's a morally neutral man, maybe.


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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:09 pm

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Tyrion is closer to a man without morals. Not to say that he is amoral, just that he doesn't feel a particular call to do good. He sometimes does good by people that he feels he has a duty to or people that he sympathises with, but I think that is closer to whimsy than good intentions. I wouldn't say he's morally neutral, just capricious.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:11 pm

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saporovirus wrote:I like Tyrion a lot even though he is sort of a bad man. He has good impulses but often doesn't act on them. I think people who only see the tv series might be fooled into thinking he isn't a bad man.


Hmm? I don't think he's a bad man. I mean, he's loyal to his family, and he's part of the evil family, but he never really does anything I think is morally reprehensible.


He's a morally neutral man, maybe.


Out of all the kings, queens, and hands of the king that have tried to rule from King's Landing thus far during the series, I'd argue that he's probably the best ruler.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:31 pm

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ABR wrote:She only said "I haven't played with dolls since I was 7" and then excused herself

I'm not questioning the writing; I'm questioning the delivery.
SC wrote:He also just killed her wolf, so it's cool that she's upset at him.

This would actually explain the actresses's choices well. It didn't occur to me because it isn't brought up and it was actually months ago in flavor, though.
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:34 pm

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Iecerint wrote:
ABR wrote:She only said "I haven't played with dolls since I was 7" and then excused herself

I'm not questioning the writing; I'm questioning the delivery.
SC wrote:He also just killed her wolf, so it's cool that she's upset at him.

This would actually explain the actresses's choices well. It didn't occur to me because it isn't brought up and it was actually months ago in flavor, though.


I don't think its MONTHS. Maybe a month tops. They are en route to King's Landing when they kill Lady.

EDIT: also, in the book, Sansa is explicitly cool to Ned because she is mad about her wolf.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:37 pm

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Neat. I guess they smoothed it over the subtext for the show because they want to help explain why Ned lets Arya take sword lessons.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:38 pm

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Damn spoilers lol I can't help but read them as they pop up
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:53 pm

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At least Ned defends her against the hydra when it attacks during the zeplin race.

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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:46 am

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http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2011/07 ... artin.html

adwd review has got me hyped. probs shouldn't click if you've not read up to book 4 obviously.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:32 am

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Faraday wrote:http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2011/07 ... artin.html

adwd review has got me hyped. probs shouldn't click if you've not read up to book 4 obviously.

Any spoilers there?
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:35 am

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I nearly shit bricks when the dragon killed Daenerys
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:41 am

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^The spoiler tag is so tempting ..
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:49 pm

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I started reading Faraday's link.

Yes, there are definitely spoilers there. In fact, I stopped reading because there's some spoilers for Dragons itself and I don't want it even slightly ruined for me.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:51 pm

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ooba wrote:
Faraday wrote:http://thewertzone.blogspot.com/2011/07 ... artin.html

adwd review has got me hyped. probs shouldn't click if you've not read up to book 4 obviously.

Any spoilers there?

Nothing in any way major at all. Some, but like, nothing major, I'm pretty much as anti spoiler as possible. If you're being really cautious don't read it, but it doesn't reveal anything plot wise. It didn't reveal anything to me I didn't already expect/know but be safe and avoid it I guess.

To summarise: the book is fucking good and the scope is massive. Buy it >_>

Here's the blurb for those unaware, I think. not really spoilery but tidbits:

Spoiler:
From the Wall to Slaver’s Bay, the world is blighted by war and chaos. In Westeros, the War of the Five Kings continues to rumble on, as Stannis Baratheon regroups his forces at Castle Black and prepares to march against the Boltons, with the northern houses divided between the two sides. In King’s Landing, intrigue seethes as two queens prepare to stand trial. In Dorne, long-gestating plans finally start to see fruition. In the Free Cities, an army of exiles and sellswords from Westeros gathers, breaking their contracts in the hope of finally seeing home and hope again. In Slaver’s Bay, a young girl must try to unite warring factions howling for her blood, unaware that her every command sends reverberations through the balance of trade and power in the world, and even dragons may not be enough to protect her…
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:12 pm

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The front of my pants reveals how excited I am about this.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 4:11 pm

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So pumped for ADwD. I was trying to get through the series again before it comes out, but that's not happening. I'll probably finish AGoT again, and maybe ACoK
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:12 pm

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I'm about 75% of the way through AFFC. Might have to speed-read the rest, since it's a re read anyway.

I love Jaime and Cersei's POV chapters.
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:54 pm

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Nexus wrote:I'm about 75% of the way through AFFC. Might have to speed-read the rest, since it's a re read anyway.

I love Jaime and Cersei's POV chapters.


I particularly like her comeuppance.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:10 am

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Bought A Storm of Swords today, already blasted through 260 pages since getting home. Going back to it in 2 mins.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:06 am

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I nearly shit bricks when the dragon killed Daenerys


CRAAAAAAAP

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I propose we identify which book we are spoiling before we spoil each other.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:42 am

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saporovirus wrote:
tanstalas wrote:
I nearly shit bricks when the dragon killed Daenerys


CRAAAAAAAP

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I propose we identify which book we are spoiling before we spoil each other.


it's a fake spoiler
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:44 am

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^ pity, really.

ChannelDelibird wrote:Bought A Storm of Swords today, already blasted through 260 pages since getting home. Going back to it in 2 mins.

the best book. second half is
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:57 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
saporovirus wrote:
tanstalas wrote:
I nearly shit bricks when the dragon killed Daenerys


CRAAAAAAAP

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I propose we identify which book we are spoiling before we spoil each other.


it's a fake spoiler


No - it isn't it's in the latest book. I got it a week ago and finished it already thanks to a mess up with kobo books :) This is the second time an e-book was released early by accident
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