Chuck Season 1 - GAME OVER

[Thor665]

@MoS - you are a bastich. You hit my NKimmune GF WIFOM hangup *and* my 'why was Rag killed and not Thor' hangup all in one post. You were working me like a champ. Excellent play.

I stand by this too, MoS - you came *really* close to selling me today.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Nope. Basically mothrax screwed us and lost us the game night 1. Because of my V/LA and the deadline extension for replacement Day 1, I had to leave before Night 1 actually started. I randomly picked CDB/Ooba as our nightkill in the QT and told my team that's what we should go with. The problem is, neither of them officially pmed the mod the kill because they assumed I had done it, even though I couldn't have. And even though it was obvious who we wanted to kill, mothrax decided to be an asshole about it and count us as a "no kill" for night 1 because he didn't get an official pm. Basically, we would have avoided all of this bullshit and won the game with the Peregrine mislynch if mothrax hadn't fucked us over. I'm thoroughly disgusted with his setup and the way he modded this game in general. Thanks to Reck for taking over this shitstorm, though. You have many props for that.

[Thor665]

So my role was quite literally just a wtfomglol role?

What the frell? I actually *sweated* some of those DayDoc choices!

Yeah, the Pere mislynch day was a bad day on multiple levels and was also totally town's low point, shoulda been you for the axe but I think I burned up too much town cred looking for Dayvigs I will note, the setup would be kinda busted up with a Scum win Day 3 after only 2 mislynches, though I've been told the counter arguement is 'bad Vig choices is bad for town' but I'm sort of negative on a town performing well being sunk by Vig shots.

[Mastermind of Sin]

To be fair I think I probably could have saved dana, but he fucked up Day 1 and I had to take that opportunity to bus him before someone else eventually pushed him to lynch.

I also still have absolutely no idea why I got put at L-1 after Ant's cop claim. To this day no reasoning has been put forth for that wagon.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Also, I totally picked Ant to neighborize because it's what I would have done as town. I didn't really utilize our QT so much to influence Ant to do what we wanted except to try and make myself look better through acting town in the QT.

Oh, and my original fakeclaim was Lou Palone, who was actually ALSO a bad guy in the series despite being Chuck's love interest at one point. So basically mothrax gave me the worst claim ever. However, I stole the Morgan Grimes claim from one of my buddies and ran with it. I still love how no one ever made me explain why Morgan Grimes would be a neighborizor. I had no good answer for that (the only reasoning I could think of didn't apply to Season 1 of the show), but Ant said it made sense so any time people got close to asking me about it I just deferred to Ant backing me up.

By the way, I breadcrumbed all three scum fakeclaims Day 1, so I could pick and choose which breadcrumb to use based on what I ended up having to claim. I almost claimed Lou Palone to try a wtflolomgbbq gambit like Thor's role ended up being. If I'd known your role would be that bad, I'd probably have gone for it.

Morgan Grimes breadcrumb (bolded):

D) What reason do we have to believe you that my WA™ 3000's broken?

WA 3000 = WAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA...

All I hear is you crying.

You may have been here longer than Ythan but you clearly haven't read much ReaperCharlie. That post looks fairly typical of him to me. (Not intended as a slight, RC.)

Spy high five!

In other news, you kids need to chill out. I go to sleep, and I wake up with a prod from the mod. What's up with that? Can't a guy take a nap without getting prodded these days? I wasn't gone for *that* long...

Ellie Bartowski breadcrumb (bolded):

MarchHare. Alliance w/me in this game? Yes/No.

MoS is also invited. mikeburnfire and Thor are not.

Personally, I'd rather be in an alliance with MBF and CDB.

a) They're awesome
b) All of our names are abbreviated with 3 letters

Sorry, but you don't qualify for either of those precepts.

Mmm, this is fun.

Words taste like peaches!

/out.

MoS: 2, RC: 0

Lou Palone breadcrumb (bolded):

So...you don't think I was active lurking?

By my definition - yes.
By your definition - no.

Correct answer. +1 Townie point for Thor!

Let's go grab sandwiches together and have a party.

Whoo!

The first two were direct quotes. I couldn't find any Lou Palone quotes, so I made a reference to her owning a sandwich shop.

[ooba]

Oh, and my original fakeclaim was Lou Palone, who was actually ALSO a bad guy in the series despite being Chuck's love interest at one point. So basically mothrax gave me the worst claim ever. However, I stole the Morgan Grimes claim from one of my buddies and ran with it. I still love how no one ever made me explain why Morgan Grimes would be a neighborizor. I had no good answer for that (the only reasoning I could think of didn't apply to Season 1 of the show), but Ant said it made sense so any time people got close to asking me about it I just deferred to Ant backing me up.

Hey. I finished until Season three - Lou was never bad?

Jill Roberts is the love interest who is bad

Morgan grimes makes more sense as neighbourizer than Lou though - outgoing friendly guy ..

[mikeburnfire]

Emp - pretty heavily leaning town, would not support his lynch today at all.

MBF needs to come and remind me how obv. town Rag is - I'm starting to squint enough that Emp's case is looking good - and that scares me.

I agree that MoS/Emp doesn't make a lot of sense with Ant still being alive.

Man, this might even be my best game ever alignment call wise - I called all three scum, and despite my rage debate hangup with MBF when I thought he was the scum Dayvig messing with me I was pretty accurate in my town calls as well. I'm taking a picture and hanging this one on my wall.

History is written by the winners, I suppose.

But yeah, red herring role was stupid and original mod sucked.

[Ant_to_the_max]

Oh yeah...I totally lied about the me believing the Rag SK thing and him totally being blindsided
And MoS, that really sucks

[xRECKONERx]

Mastermind of Sin (2): Ant_to_the_Max, Thor665
Ant_to_the_max (1): Mastermind of Sin

[xRECKONERx]

Mastermind of Sin:

La Ciudad (Mafia One-Shot Neighborizer)

, lynched D5

The town has saved the Intersect and won the game!

[xRECKONERx]

Finally, it's over!

There was very little MoS could've reasonably done in this situation, so kudos for him for going down swinging. Keep in mind that while I was on the review committee for this setup, ultimately all final setup decisions were up to mothrax. I wasn't really expecting to have to back him up, so I'm sorry for not knowing the fine details of his modding style, as I'm sure they would've made a difference -- but when we reviewed it, we hadn't set the game up to even distinguish between vig kills and mafia kills, so that threw me for a loop.

Thor's day doctor role was a red herring, mostly because Devon is always trying to help out in the show and never really does anything useful, and mothrax thought that fit well with the day doc who doesn't actually have anything to protect. I appreciate all of those who played and thanks to dramonic for replacing in when we needed someone. Good game everyone!

[Magua]

Yay on being right on Thor, MBF, and Ragnarokio from the get-go.

Wrong on just about everything else.

Probably a good thing I died. =P

[mikeburnfire]

You're welcome!

Thanks for modding, XrexX

[Thor665]

Emp - pretty heavily leaning town, would not support his lynch today at all.

MBF needs to come and remind me how obv. town Rag is - I'm starting to squint enough that Emp's case is looking good - and that scares me.

I agree that MoS/Emp doesn't make a lot of sense with Ant still being alive.

Man, this might even be my best game ever alignment call wise - I called all three scum, and despite my rage debate hangup with MBF when I thought he was the scum Dayvig messing with me I was pretty accurate in my town calls as well. I'm taking a picture and hanging this one on my wall.

History is written by the winners, I suppose.

But yeah, red herring role was stupid and original mod sucked.

You're telling me I wasn't instrumental in bagging all three scum? Go back and look at the lead and decision on each and be honest about it.
Also - you did quote at least one comment I made that was intentionally false for the sake of eliciting response - you did seem to take me too literally most of the game. I had more than a few times I started barking up wrong trees mid day - I'll happily admit that, but by end day, every day but Day 1, I wanted to lynch scum and avoid lynching town - and that's what matters.

Also, I'm winning, so I'm writing over here

So, seriously, what was the point of the secret powers extra fake claim as Vig thing? That really threw me for a loop and I still don't get the point.

[Thor665]

@Reck

- I'll say nice things about you too if we get scum and dead QT links.

[Ant_to_the_max]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/Wsgwfye75fC7Q

N1 stuck between copping ooba and MoS. Chose ooba over MoS
N2 stuck between in my eyes obv scum Pere and voting scum Empking.
N3 was MoS or Thor. As explained, either one would have solved the other.
N4 had nothing better to do than investigate myself >__>

I wonder how this game would have turned out if I chose the other people...
good/bads on my target choices?

[Magua]

There was no Dead QT, Thor, or at least, I was never given one.

Thanks for modding, Reck.

[Thor665]

Booooo! No Dead QT, boooo!

[mikeburnfire]

Dead QT? Is that a new thing nowadays?

[Thor665]

You've never seen one? They're awesome - basically all the dead players get a commentary thread after death so they can keep commenting on the game.
As everyone becomes a confirmed mason with inside knowledge as the scum and mod drop hints they suddenly start bandying about phrases like 'Why is town throwing it away!?!' and 'It's so obvious, player 'X' is an idiot!' with reckless abandon. They're awesome.

[Thor665]

@MBF/Pere - are we going to get to see the Neighbor Vig QT?

[Ragnarokio]

http://www.quicktopic.com/46/H/LhnQBVZDRHQ

[Thor665]

I agree with MBF that you should have osted more of your thoughts from that QT in thread - would have eased up issues with you a lot Day 3.
I disagree with MBF that the town was useless (some of us just had paranoia because our role was designed to frell with our head)

@MBF - really, I can't believe you bought into that Magua vote so much. Obv. reaction fishing was...not obv.? I'm also a little surprisedyour issues with me didn't ease up when I explained the dana vote clearer - was it not obvious I was leaping off Rag just at your request?

[mikeburnfire]

I was pretty pissed through most of the game because I was actually trying to play my best and it seemed like I was alone. I had to goad Rag to post in the thread, you wouldn't stop focusing on getting a claim out of me, and that stupid Serial Killer discussion persisted even after I was dead.

What was up with that 4th day, anyway? Ant claims a guilty on MoS, so one of them is obviously scum, and you go off and lynch Empking. I don't get it.

[Magua]

What was up with that 4th day, anyway? Ant claims a guilty on MoS, so one of them is obviously scum, and you go off and lynch Empking. I don't get it.

From Thor's POV, the possible teams D4 were:

Empking + Ant
Empking + MoS
Ant + MoS

After he discarded Ant + MoS as a team, Empking was the safe lynch for Thor, and if Empking's lynch could've immediately led to Ant's lynch if he flipped non-godfather