Fate wrote:I'm so glad Tars good with words.
Course BEN would be the one who unvotes off l1, like he needed any MORE town points...
Of course he does, he needs to try to avoid his eventual noose somehow.
Note to self: Benmage/Duplicity interactions read VERY STRONGLY scumbuddy at this point.
Duplicity wrote:Tarh, Gamma did state that he was considering replacing out multiple times (It wasn't just MoI). Bens reply to what votes he finds suspicious and which he doesn't impacts my town read on him minimally, it's more so information I want him to elaborate on than conditions to my town read on him and am still waiting on.
To quote my comment on a very similar kind of question seen from scum in Random Mafia 3:
Tarhalindur, Random Mafia 3, concerning killasevenscum wrote:The question asked here doesn't sit well with me, either - no pressure, just a question for another player.
Neither does Killa's overreaction to one vote today (which is a scumtell, albeit a weak one)
It's still a "oh shit, must distance" tell.
Point conceded on Gamma, though - I got the post where he considered replacement mixed up with the equivalent MoI post.
Duplicity wrote:Your point about there being a potential scum doctor, bulletproof or alternate power preventing an Invicitus occuring makes no sense when it comes to your read on Quilford. A failed invictus vote and no invictus death would leads towards it being abundantly obvious that something prevented the invicidus kill going through which again throws attention and suspicion onto Quilford. There legitimately is no scum motivation for Quilford to shoot at KK at all as it would lead to a likely 1 for 1 trade which is something mafia would avoid at all costs.
Bullshit. If Quilford is bulletproof and planning on trueclaiming that ability, he can just claim that when asked to claim and answer questions about why he's alive. Likewise, a stopped Invictus on a non-bulletproof Quilford could have been explained by a player protecting him (which, as a matter of fact, is what appears to have happened), with the only risk being when targets are claimed at massclaim.
In fact, if I were scum who knew that KK had stated an invictus on a scum who I knew would be protected, I'd happily kill KK so I could falseclear my buddy with the WIFOM logic "scum would never risk killing a player who they knew was targeting a townie, so buddy X is effectively confirmed town".
Wait, why does that logic sound suspiciously familiar? It's almost like a few players have been using that exact train of logic in the thread for a while...
Duplicity wrote:Gut, the only motivation I can find behind revealing you're a hydra knowing that it would be conisdered scummy to late claim it is so you can attempt to use it as an excuse to cover your previous scummy behaviour. With that said I'm getting serious second thoughts in regards to my suspicion directed towards you after reading glancing at a few of your other games.
Once again, you're wishy-washy as hell. Seriously, you're doing a REALLY good job of convincing me to lynch you over Magna today.
Duplicity wrote:CES, you claim to be the solo posting head of the hydra, does this mean that all of chambers thoughts and opinions are discussed elsewhere, if so I want him to come in here and make the next post elaborating on his reads. I want to have a conversation with Shift asap, his internet difficulties is proving to be incredibly frustrating.
So, the only active Duplicity head right now is Regfan? Good to know. It's META PARTAY TIME as soon as a certain ongoing game finally ends.
Duplicity wrote:For now I'll
Unvote
though this vote is likely to come back at some point but I want a chance to read through Naut, The Illu and Zach in more detail before that occurs. I still believe MoI's town and Tarhs outright claim of "Lynch me or follow me" reads as a town-tell, I don't see him putting such a suggestion or claim out there as scum after two town lynches occured.
MORE wishy-washy.
As much as I hate to potentially derail a perfectly good lynch on MoI-scum for the second straight day... I'm actually more sure that Duplicity is scum right now than I am about MoI.
Meh, whatever, they're both scum and both need to die.
Benmage wrote:Oh fuck me... Hindu bodgy guarded quil... its so simple... I keep neglecting bodyguard stops invictus kills.
Fyi a scum doc wouldn't.
And a bpv... would show no kill despite KK flipping with invictus ... and everyone would go, oh KK invictusd quil....lynch quil.
WELL THEN. Time to reexamine gamma when I get the chance.
Scum doc WOULD stop an Invictus kill by the wording of the Doctor ability (yes, it's there, though it took way too long for me to spot it) in the abilities post. Unless you know something about Tarhalindur over Mafia that we don't.
Also, look who ELSE switched to that "scum wouldn't kill KK because it would result in Quilford/Gamma's slot being lynched". No point in refuting that again. There IS a point, however, in figuring out which scumbag is coordinating the response to my attack on Gamma - nothing better than taking out a scum coordinator. I'd say DGB, but she's dropped a bunch of metatowntells this game... let me take a look at past scum games of the Scum Four again.
MagnaofIllusion (L-1) ~ Fate, VitaminR, Tarhalindur, Nautilius, Gut, Gammagooey
