Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[ooba]

Sorry DGB.

- Hero, I'd like you to share your results so far

[Magister Ludi]

15 players left, up to 5 cult. If we lynch wrong and cult hit, we're at 14 players and 6 cult, which is LYLO. (not to mention the fact our vigs have been absolutely godawful this game, {if they're still aligned with town}.)

I'm almost in favor of a massclaim here.

[Magister Ludi]

Flay, I know this is unusual, but is there anyway you can force Kinetic to post more than a 'prod dodge' post once every couple of days? Town has no in game recourse to force him to post more (can't lynch), and he has no motivation to post at all (he's doing fine seemingly), and as town we can't get any headway into that slot at all

[Kinetic]

Flay, I know this is unusual, but is there anyway you can force Kinetic to post more than a 'prod dodge' post once every couple of days? Town has no in game recourse to force him to post more (can't lynch), and he has no motivation to post at all (he's doing fine seemingly), and as town we can't get any headway into that slot at all

I'll answer this for you. NOPE. Part of the role is loose posting requirements. Guess what, I'm going to leverage them.

[Magister Ludi]

Why?

[Herodotus]

What kind of headway are you looking for? Trying to figure out whether he's scum?

[Magister Ludi]

No, trying to figure out who may be scum off his interactions. Him talking >>> no talking.

Time for results old boy.

[Herodotus]

I threw out subtlety because you kept dodging the answer..

Claim: Watcher - Can stalk out a location
N3 Action: Lot#36 - Merchants-Produce Bank
Result: I settle in the alley opposite the bank. Nothing seems to happen for a long while and I keep dozing on and off. Near dawn, I spot SL walking across the road to the bank. She is joined by someone on the other side but it's too far away for me to see who it is or hear what they're saying. I see them entering the bank. I doze off again and next time I open my eyes, the street is empty.

Clearly Batt dodging the answer points to him being the guy who met SL at the entrance (makes sense flavor wise too - Inside man on the bank) and probably murdering her.

What made you choose the bank as your target?

[ooba]

I threw out subtlety because you kept dodging the answer..

Claim: Watcher - Can stalk out a location
N3 Action: Lot#36 - Merchants-Produce Bank
Result: I settle in the alley opposite the bank. Nothing seems to happen for a long while and I keep dozing on and off. Near dawn, I spot SL walking across the road to the bank. She is joined by someone on the other side but it's too far away for me to see who it is or hear what they're saying. I see them entering the bank. I doze off again and next time I open my eyes, the street is empty.

Clearly Batt dodging the answer points to him being the guy who met SL at the entrance (makes sense flavor wise too - Inside man on the bank) and probably murdering her.

What made you choose the bank as your target?

I was trying to think who would be a good recruit for N3. Batt would have been my choice so watched the bank.

[ooba]

What brought about that question?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ooba, where did you watch last night?

[Herodotus]

What brought about that question?

Seemed like a random place to choose, and too convenient that you were watching a place where someone died (but apparently didn't see the killer).

[ooba]

Ooba, where did you watch last night?

I don't understand this. DGB did the same thing yesterday too - Is it curiosity?
- Unless you think cult lose their ability when recruited (which wasn't the case last game) - you can be pretty sure that I have this ability
- The only way to catch cult in night actions is (a) Through investigative actions (b) Or catching cult in a counterclaim since they cannot openly claim some actions (Like roleblocker on Hero for example)
I definitely help in (b) - Don't see why I should claim target and tip people off as to what they can get away with. (My claim yesterday was a knee jerk reaction because I thought I had caught Batt in the bank robbery & killing SL - I still think it's true & that he is the mysterious stranger from reactions)

Hero - Sera backed me up on the flavor being ambiguous part. That's part and parcel with the flavor of Flay games.

I would be up for a massclaim.

[Zdenek]

Let's try this again:

Vote: FlameAxe

I would be okay with a mass claim too.

[Cobblerfone]

@Hero: I'd also like you to claim all of your results so far since it'll at least clear people up to a certain day. And if a person said something suspicious before you investigated them we know it would be fruitless. This is a long game now and any help in that regard would be good. It could also help in trying to find any changes in behavior from after that point. It doesn't need to be right now, but some time during the day phase would be awesome.

Eh,

VOTE: Ladylambda

[Herodotus]

I would be up for a massclaim.

Before that, there may be some advantages if you state whether you have watched "me" some time during nights 2 or 4, or you have not. (Obviously some disadvantages too.)

[Magister Ludi]

I don't know how people know where other players are during the night. Seriously, we have a huge map and its not at all obvious.

~~~

Anyways, Hero, I'm in favor of you claiming your targets right now. And are you in favor of a massclaim?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I think a massclaim is a <good idea>.

[Magister Ludi]

In Favor of Massclaim: (bolded)

1. Hiro Battousai
2. Bunny Lover
3. Father B. Voigt
4.

Cecily "Lambdadelta" Smith

5. Paul Cobblerfone, Unrecruitable Townie
6. Spiro Caan,
7. Flameaxe,
8. Herodotus Greco, Cop
9.

Joseph "Kinetic" Camisano, Mob Lieutenant/Stump

10.

Mr. Sam Ludi, Jailkeeper

11. John "Nobody Special" Doe
12.

Pops "ooba" Seaton, Watcher

13. Doc "Popular" Tajo
14. Anahito Xvart
15. Yosarian Johnson
16.

Mr. Zdenek

[Battousai]

I was trying to think who would be a good recruit for N3. Batt would have been my choice so watched the bank.

Really? You never mention it beforehand. In fact, you said I wasn't recruited (to some degree) D1 and D2. What happened D3 to make you think I would be a good recruit?


I'm not in favor of a massclaim today. At max, this is 10:5. This is unlikely to me, as the way kinetic tried to get DGB lynched seemed to make me think he thought DGB was recruited by ABR (thus he failed a recruit on her). Then there is hero. I don't know anyone, as CR, who wouldn't take the chance and recruit a claimed cop (especially if the CR is unkillable). But Hero was protected, and therefore, would soak up a recruitment. I think it is more probable that we are looking at 12:3 right now or at the least 11:4. I'd say mass claim tomorrow, depending on night kills.


Now, that DGB flipped town, that means Tajo has been pushing for the same town lynch almost the entire game. I'm not sure if he is scum because of it, as I don't see scum pushing a mislynch like that and getting extra heat for continuously pushing it.

I don't really like bunnylover all that much, as he lurked throughout the game, up until yesterday I believe. Now, I'm happy he decided to participate, but it just seems odd that he'd change from lurker on a dime in the middle of the game without some sort of reason.

There's ooba, who played horribly yesterday. Tried to out a potential PR based on DEATH FUCKING SCENE FLAVOR of a robbery. Here's a tip. Flavor like that is to make the game more interesting, not give town more information on what happened. Hell, we have corrupt cops. They could of pocketed the money when they went to investigate. Not sure if this is scum play or not, but based on Sera agreeing with Ooba, I can see it coming from misguided town.

Cobbler, Hero, Yos are all pretty much confirmed town (only way for hero/yos to be scum is if ML is scum)

Everyone else is a bit suspicious BECAUSE they don't really stick out.

@Hero/Yos- who do you find scummy?

I don't really see the case on Bv, if anyone from yesterday wants to elaborate on it a bit more.

[Magister Ludi]

I put up what I thought were very good reasons to lynch bvoigt all in one post several posts ago in my iso.

I'm also going to have to take a look at the people who have flown under the radar since day one (xvart now, maybe a few others), as they grow more attractive as the days roll by.

[Cobblerfone]

But Hero was protected, and therefore, would soak up a recruitment.

He was protected from kills. Of course, chances are the cult-doc targeted him too but Darox didn't cult-protect him.

@Ludi: I'm not an "Unrecruitable Townie".

[Magister Ludi]

meh, my bad, I thought I remembered someone claiming that way back on day one or two.

[Cobblerfone]

I claimed unrecruitable (now I'm not entirely sure), but not unrecruitable townie. Spring ended up being an unrecruitable townie though.

[Kinetic]

Can I come out in favor of a mass claim please?