Newbie 1112 ÔÇô Game Over!

Johhog · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:53 am

Please just let hiplop give his response first.

BS2000 · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 5:16 am

Johhog see post #665, I think it's your turn to claim.

hiplop wrote:probably night one - camn
night 2 johhog
night 3 - johhog

What's odd is there hadn't been a night 3 yet, this was posted on Day 3.

Johhog · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:43 am

BS2000 wrote:Johhog see post #665, I think it's your turn to claim.

hiplop wrote:probably night one - camn
night 2 johhog
night 3 - johhog

What's odd is there hadn't been a night 3 yet, this was posted on Day 3.

Oh, didn't see that post, thanks. Well, I didn't notice that. I suppose you could say that he is scum not knowing how many times he's been protecting, but I dunno really.

As for my claim, well, unfortunately I'm VT.

Fourseen next.

FourseenCircumstance · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:54 am

I am VT.

I am still questioning not only Hiplops possible claims from day 3 and then his claims today, but I am also questioning why exactly he had that "change of mind" from being all for a NL and then he wasn't going to no lynch no matter what.

FourseenCircumstance · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 7:57 am

that leaves you to claim bs2000

hiplop · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:19 am

Was just telling the truth, i am the doctor and i hypothetically would have saved those people if i was not, it just so happens that i did save them.

hiplop · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:20 am

EBWOP, actually they dont match up with my saves; i saved camn last night, not johhog

Nice try scumhog

BS2000 · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 8:51 am

I'm VT.

Camn hasn't claimed yet, are you a PR camn?

Johhog · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:11 am

hiplop wrote:Was just telling the truth, i am the doctor and i hypothetically would have saved those people if i was not, it just so happens that i did save them.

Well, don't blame me, it was you who misunderstood the reason to claim. Ofc you shouldn't claim what people you would save IF YOU WASN'T DOC, the point was that you should claim the people you actually saved in case you got night killed. Don't blame me.

I'm far from sure if it is hiplop or Sigma who is scum. My gut says hiplop, my brain says Sigma.

Johhog · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:12 am

hiplop wrote:Nice try scumhog

And what the hell is this? Last day you were all for a Sigmalynch and now out of nowhere I am the obvious scum?

hiplop · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:15 am

Johhog wrote:
hiplop wrote:Nice try scumhog

And what the hell is this? Last day you were all for a Sigmalynch and now out of nowhere I am the obvious scum?

it was a joke

Thats what i was going to do, johhog. But i protected camn because i was pretty damn sure he was going to die, and i was right.

hiplop · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:17 am

Also, its possible both of us are telling the truth.

That said I'm pretty sure its Sigma, i got replaced in b/c he didnt send in his role. Brokenscraps for some reason didn't, everything i said yesterday stands true.

Johhog · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:17 am

I blame my bad sense of humour and my poor English. As camn said, it is "slightly off-kilter".

So who are your top three scum pairs?

Johhog · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:18 am

hiplop wrote:Also, its possible both of us are telling the truth.

No, not fmpov. I can see that one of you lies, if both of you would speak the truth only me and BS2000 would be left.

hiplop · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:21 am

Sigma/Fourseen
JohHog/Bs2000

Are really the only possible scumteams for me, i guess BS2000/Fourseen or Johhog/fourseen are possible, but not likely

hiplop · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:21 am

Johhog wrote:I blame my bad sense of humour and my poor English. As camn said, it is "slightly off-kilter".

So who are your top three scum pairs?

ah i forgot you were the swedish one! thought that guy replaced out, for some reason haha

Johhog · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:30 am

I changed my avatar after the Norwegian terror attacks.

And BS2000/Fourseen and me/Fourseen is not possible due to Fourseen being Sigma's inno.

Johhog · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:38 am

Scum pairings:

BS2000-FourseenCircumstance

Not possible, as Fourseen is Sigma's inno.

BS2000-Johhog

I can see why this makes sense, but honestly, why would I protect him so much then and vice versa? This is honestly not even WIFOM as I would gain nothing at all by it.

BS2000-SigmaEXE003

I don't think so, mostly because BS2000 is very pro-town.

BS2000-camn

camn is Sigma's inno.

BS2000-hiplop

Um, no. Not impossible, but unlikely.

FourseenCircumstance-Johhog

Nope, Fourseen is Sigma's inno.

FourseenCircumstance-SigmaEXE003

Makes a lot of sense actually, Sigmascum would want to claim inno on Fourseen sooner or later. Sigma's slot is scummy, Fourseen is darn scummy.

FourseenCircumstance-camn

Fourseen and camn are both Sigma's innos.

FourseenCircumstance-hiplop

Fourseen is Sigma's inno.

Johhog-SigmaEXE003

Er, no. I can't see any arguments that would support this theory. The only thing I can find that implies this scumteam is that I'm not sure that Sigma is lying.

Johhog-camn

camn is Sigma's inno.

Johhog-hiplop

Nope. Look at the interactions between me and hiplop.

SigmaEXE003-camn

Impossible, as long as scum didn't NK both N1 and N3.

SigmaEXE003-hiplop

Impossible, as that would leave us without any PR.

camn-hiplop

camn is Sigma's inno.

Uh, I just realised that the above was a pretty bad analysis. Well, to make it short this is the only possible scum teams:

1. Fourseen-Sigma
2. BS2000-Sigma
3. BS2000-hiplop

With number one the only one I really consider likely. Having that said, I'm beginning to wane now, did I misjudge BS2000?

hiplop · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:40 am

camn is conf town to me too, btw

Johhog · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:44 am

hiplop wrote:camn is conf town to me too, btw

camn is the nearest confirmed town we'll ever come. To make it easy for me, I'm from now on in my head going to consider her as town for rest of the game.

camn · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:23 pm

I am town. And vanilla.

So both power claims are free of counterclaims.
The doc claim has the support of 2 missed nightkills. It is almost certainly true.

The cop claim is only possibly fake in one of the six setup variations... Which scum couldn't have known. Odds are 5:6 that sigma is telling the truth.

camn · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:27 pm

BS2000 wrote:VOTE: Johhog
Can't trust you crazy swedes.

Classic scum distancing in the RVS.

Johhog · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:34 pm

I'm confused by the fact that camn is so experienced yet are willing to lynch me or BS2000. Seriously camn, distancing? DISTANCING? D-I-S-T-A-N-C-I-N-G? If me and BS2000 are scum, we haven't really been distancing each other.

PS Sigma is probably the scum. I'd urge you to look at what hiplop and BS2000 already have said, should he have claimed VT and then get lynched (we would have to so we don't give away the PRs to scum) or what? Of course he pulled a gambit and claimed cop.

hiplop · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:38 pm

NO ONE VOTE, OR EVEN THINK OF VOTING. I think i may have fucked something up! I'm not 100% sure if the saves i posted are true, more like 90%. I'm asking uite right now if they are, i just don't want a silly little mess-up to cost town the game.

I switched my saves one of the nights, and i deleted the PM

Johhog · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:39 pm

Relax, it's fine. I wouldn't have voted this early "no matter what".