Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Yosarian2]

People pushing for a mass claim today: pretty sure we'll find cult within this group.

I would be up for a massclaim.

Let's try this again:

Vote: FlameAxe

I would be okay with a mass claim too.

I think a massclaim is a <good idea>.

I am in favor of a massclaim.

Vote: tajo

I am in favor of a massclaim.

Vote: NS

I don't mind if we mass claim

Vote: Tajo

Vote: Cobble

Something wants me to do this again. My guess is post 2948. I am also in favor of a massclaim. I'm always in the mood for a massclaim. [/pieisgood]

Out of that group, we're defiantly not lynching Lady Lamada today, the claimed unrecruitable-cult doc. We can't risk that.

[Yosarian2]

Why are people claiming? Argh

I feel your pain.

But it may also be too late at this point. With half of the players having claimed already, do you think it would be a good idea to continue, or to hold further claims?

We need to stop claiming. I'm hoping that there is likely to be at least one more unclaimed unrecruitable townie, and it is absolutely imperative that the cult does not know who that is, at all cost.

[Flameaxe]

Oh. Bunnylover is V/LA. In that case, Flameaxe, go ahead.

Bunnylover also already claimed.

[Flameaxe]

15 players left, up to 5 cult. If we lynch wrong and cult hit, we're at 14 players and 6 cult, which is LYLO. (not to mention the fact our vigs have been absolutely godawful this game, {if they're still aligned with town}.)

I'm almost in favor of a massclaim here.

Yos: Is there any reason you skipped over the first person to actually mention the massclaim?

[Flameaxe]

Flavor:
Longtime clerk at the bank. The bank believes money is money, which after many years of dealing with the bank and the mob dealings, combined with the recent violence, has made me want to do something about it.

Vig flavor: My secruity training has let me try some vigilantisms. I can't kill the CRs, but I may be able to hack away at their associates.

It's something you said that was similar in my role pm.

Triple post, but help me connect the dots here. Softclaiming only helps you and Cobble, and in a cult game, hurts everyone else.

[Yosarian2]

15 players left, up to 5 cult. If we lynch wrong and cult hit, we're at 14 players and 6 cult, which is LYLO. (not to mention the fact our vigs have been absolutely godawful this game, {if they're still aligned with town}.)

I'm almost in favor of a massclaim here.

Yos: Is there any reason you skipped over the first person to actually mention the massclaim?

yeah, good catch, I missed that. ML is fairly likely to be town here, though.

[Battousai]

Flameaxe- He understood what I meant and it answered his question. As to you not seeing the connection, then just know that I paraphrased my role pm.

[Bunnylover]

Im off of V/LA.
Storm turned east v_v.

[Flameaxe]

Flameaxe- He understood what I meant and it answered his question. As to you not seeing the connection, then just know that I paraphrased my role pm.

You're still not being helpful. The fact that he understood does not help anyone but the two of you.

[ooba]

I am a Townie with the visit ability. My job is to transport things for the local businesses. I've lived in the Quay for my entire life and have seen the ups and downs but this is the worst it has been, even worse than another time. I don't want to see my home run into the ground.

Bunnylover is next.

Bunnylover or Flameaxe - go...

[ooba]

Also, if you're unrecruitable - don't claim that part of your role ..

[Yosarian2]

I am a Townie with the visit ability. My job is to transport things for the local businesses. I've lived in the Quay for my entire life and have seen the ups and downs but this is the worst it has been, even worse than another time. I don't want to see my home run into the ground.

Bunnylover is next.

Bunnylover or Flameaxe - go...

No. No more claims, period.

In fact:

Vote:Ooba

[ooba]

We're finishing the claims (minus the unrecruitable part of it) ...

[Magister Ludi]

Eh, I'm not sure its actually such a bad thing. I think Flay balanced this game for the power roles to be able to combat two cults, and the fact we have knocked one out has probably swung the power-role balance to our side (though two did die last night). We may be able to bust kinetic if we can co-ordiante these things.

Its good to have Yosarian back!

Whats your take on bvoigt? I know he claimed unrecruit, but do you think he is lying and cult?

I'm not sure why conspiracy wanted extra information, so i'm waiting on that from him.

Also, from someone who claimed already,

does your role pm make any mention of being unable to action on Kinetic because his residence is 'too hot to handle for a single officer {your role} acting alone

?

[Battousai]

Flameaxe- He understood what I meant and it answered his question. As to you not seeing the connection, then just know that I paraphrased my role pm.

You're still not being helpful. The fact that he understood does not help anyone but the two of you.

How is it in any way, shape, or form, helpful for me to spell out word for word what is in my role pm that made me believe that cobbler wasn't lieing about being unrecruitable at this juncture?

[Flameaxe]

I'm not asking for word for word, I'm asking for ANYTHING. If you expect any of us other people to follow along with the belief that you seem to follow, you need to help us follow it. You don't need to quote a damn thing to give us this.

PS: I'm not claiming.

[Battousai]

I don't care if you can follow it or not right now. Maybe if you tried and lynch cobbler I would, but until then I'm not going to as it serves no fucking purpose.

[Nobody Special]

We're finishing the claims (minus the unrecruitable part of it) ...

You can't dictate these things, you know...

[Magister Ludi]

Actually, I forgot another potential cop died on day one.

Herod, I am still waiting on results here.

[ConSpiracy]

I will hold back. What's up?

You will see. Is the unrecruitable flavour really incorruptible?

ConSpiracy, we held up the mass claim for you to ask that question. Why? Was it important? What's going on inside your head?

We shouldn't have mass-claimed... Anyways: You will see, yes, something worth it.

Okay, every body stop mass-claiming now.
Bvoigt, tell me how the church is in relation with you.

I don't really get what you're asking. I'm a priest at Holy Rosary Church.

And I intentionally left this out of my claim last time, but yes, I am unrecruitable. The flavor name is Incorruptible.

What is the church in relation with your PR?

The church is Catholic. It's a fixture of the River Quay. I can give my wisdom to anyone; as far as I know, they don't have to visit the church or anything like that.

Last question:
- When you are recruitment doccing somebody, you are going to their place, right?
- Or is it more as LLD that they come to your church to pray/instead of going to the bar?

[bvoigt]

Last question:
- When you are recruitment doccing somebody, you are going to their place, right?
- Or is it more as LLD that they come to your church to pray/instead of going to the bar?

It doesn't specifically say whether I go to someone else's place or they come to me. However, as far as I know, neither I nor the person I'm protecting specifically has to use the Visit mechanic to make the recruitment protection effective.

Also, from someone who claimed already,

does your role pm make any mention of being unable to action on Kinetic because his residence is 'too hot to handle for a single officer {your role} acting alone

?

Well, I would have no reason to cult doc Kinetic, so no, it does not mention that.

[ConSpiracy]

Okay, I do not believe bvoigt. At all.

1.

Soft-claiming unrecruitable.

He asked for the unrecruitable flavour from Cobblerfone day 1. He did this although he is the most powerful weapon against cult, the cult doc. Why showing interest in unrecruitable flavour when especially the cult doc should stay off the radar?

2.

Church visit

I visited the church last nigt. It was locked up tight and what Flay said it seemed like it was either left alone or something mysterious was in there. That makes no sense as other places I visited were all accessible, even when normally closed at night (I could wait for the next morning).

3.

Bad flavour

When LLD tells us she keeps people at the bar, talking to them and keeping them from joining the cult she has a lot of flavour for cult doccing. Bvoigt brings wisdom. That's detailed...

4.

Role based places

I have heard of several actions that were map related. LLD's cult doccing, SL's unrecruitableness (confirmed with ooba) and mine. I'd expect bvoigt as church man to be place related as well, as a church is the main domain for a Father. A Father rarely comes out of the church, especially the Katholic church (at least, that's my experience).

The only thing that helps bvoigt is his "Incorruptible" claim. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cult leaders would have some sort of fake role-pm, though.

I am ready to lynch his guy. His roleclaim isn't good and I still think he is scum.

Vote: bvoigt

[Yosarian2]

We're finishing the claims (minus the unrecruitable part of it) ...

Why would we want to do that? How would that help us at this point?

It might be worth hearing who Hero's innocents are at this point, since that'll help us lynch correctly today, but we really don't need or want any MORE claims at this point.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I can confirm the cult immune flavor is "incorruptible".

[bvoigt]

1. I thought Cobbler was fakeclaiming, and I wanted him lynched.
2. That's weird, but what about it makes me scum?
3. I gave more flavor when I first claimed:

I'm a Catholic priest, and everyone is part of my flock, even if they don't regularly come to church. I can attempt to counsel someone who might fall into bad ways.

4. Like I said, my role PM doesn't have specifics about whether I visit someone or they come to me.

Finally, why would the cult leaders specifically have a role PM of someone who is unrecruitable? They obviously couldn't recruit one of those players, and I don't see why they'd have one otherwise, since they have no need to fakeclaim. I feel like you're purposely discounting the part of my claim that makes me clearly town here.