Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[SodaSpirit17]

Okay. I skimmed through this whole thing through a phone, so I'm definitely gonna re-read it. I didn't really like kendall and saw that she replaced out. However, since kendall replaced out, I'll give her replacement a chance to defend themself.

UNVOTE: k e n d a l l

[SpyreX]

I'm not going to cry if it goes Umbrage.

I REALLY want DonJosh dead though. Seriously dead.

Unvote, Vote: Umbrage

[Hiraki]

Just checking. Thats what I wanted to hear.

my pressure has no effect

sigh

umbrage is still a vi

[SpyreX]

Which pressure?

Believe me if we want to high five and kill Josh I'm down for that more

[Rainbowdash]

We could brohoof and kill them in any order really, but I have an ego that wants to be fed and it wants Umbrage dead more due to a stronger read and punishment for mocking me. Not going to cry over DJ first, but I want Umbrage instead.

All we really need now is the rest of the alliance to show and wait for everypony else to just wagon along.

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count 1-8

Beefster

(2)- jmurph3, Bogre,

bobsnox

(0)-

Bogre

(0)-

chkflip

(0)-

diddin

(0)-

DonJosh

(6)- Flavour Analysis, SnakeSide, glowball, NanookTheWolf, SpyreX, bobsnox,

Flavour Analysis

(0)-

FourseenCircumstance

(0)-

glowball

(0)-

hiraki

(0)-

inHimshallibe

(3)- Umbrage, Ray Montano, DonJosh,

jmurph3

(0)-

mb53

(0)-

mikehart

(1)- hiraki,

NanookTheWolf

(0)-

OpposedForce

(0)-

PeregrineV

(0)-

Rainbowdash

(2)- chkflip, FourseenCirumstance,

Ray Montano

(0)-

Silver1337

(0)-

SnakeSide

(0)-

SodaSpirit17

(0)-

SpyreX

(0)-

Umbrage (6)- Rainbowdash, inHimshallibe, diddin, mb53, PeregrineV, SpyreX

Not Voting (4)- Silver1337, mikehart, Beefster, SodaSpirit17,


With 24 alive, it takes 13 to lynch. Deadline is August 18th at 1pm EST

[glowball]

so Umbrage or DonJosh are the two leading wagons. My opinion? Both are great choices, so I want someone to tell me why one should be lynched over the other... Meaning: If you want Umbrage lynched, why is he scummier than DonJosh- and if you want DonJosh lynched why is he scummier than Umbrage. I could honestly go either way, although I think Umbrage might be a little more dangerous as scum.

[SodaSpirit17]

long post forthcoming.

She reminds me a lot of IS actually so maybe its a projection thing.

Would really like to hear an opinion from Soda, Beefster, Silver, Hiraki, Hipaddict, Glowball, Fourseen, Diddin, and Chkflip. Not to mention those that haven't even posted. Maybe some fresh brains could add to the mix.

When you posted this my biggest gut feeling was my RV kendall. No other real scumtells came up.

@ Hiraki

SS17 wrote:
That's a scummy name if I've ever heard one!

Also what's y'alls site nicknames.

You can call me Soda, SS17 or whatever really...
This is so hypocrtical it hurts. Not scummy though. Bobsnox is erghletown. I'm not going to do much RVS telling because it's a bit late anyway.

It was just a RVS as you stated. Not an actual vote.

soda wrote:
I have been playing on GameFAQs.
credibility...

lost

meh whatever.

Ninty IGMEOU.

And it's not cuz of your most recent post.
Nice way of saying, I AM SUSPICIOUS BUT I NO TELL YOU WHY

LOL

not funny

I stated in the next post why I was suspicious.

This is towards Kendall

i may be new to this website, but i am in no way new to the game of mafia.

I thought you were completely new to mafia by your posting style. Can't really gather more info off of this but food for thought

@Hiraki again
I saw your post where you would let everyone lynch you if kendall flipped scum.
You must be VERY certain kendall is town. Do you have any evidence? Or are you judging her posting style.

@Flav
@EVERYONE. I want thoughts on : Snakeside, Glowball, Hiraki, and MikeHard.

Snake- no opinion really.
Glowball- He's legitimate town me thinks
Hiraki- feeling town on this guy, but he's really aggressive.
Mike- see snakeside

Lol @ post #463.

@Bogre- have you read the whole game yet? ninty replaced haha

@inH- what do you think of kendall's playing style?

I want Fourseen to come back. But he wont be til thursday. Only person I really like is Flav.

[SodaSpirit17]

Silver also kinda worries me. Definitely not enough to place a vote. I'm not sure why he didn't RVS when everyone else did. He's been questioned several times but hasnt said anything but lol bob is jester he's posting dumb things. It could be just to be funny, but the relativity of any of his posts is zero.

[jmurph3]

Alright, so I promised some reads, and here they are. In particular, I want to comment on the two biggest wagons, as I find that most relevant at the moment, and since if I were to publish my lists of reads, I would be mostly noting that half this town is sitting quite solidly at "null".

On Umbrage:

Umbrage's initial vote on kendall seems no scummier to me than several other players, so that's not enough to push me towards thinking that he's scum. However, as he continued posting, I noticed some things that I really didn't like. In particular, this post seems really bad to me. And I really hate in this post how he says,

Being aggressive is not, nor has it ever been a scumtell but a playstyle tell. The fact that he is pushing this as a tell is in itself a tell. He continues to miss the fact that you actually need someone to push pace of a game too, or it has no direction and stalls out early. The game needs someone to take reigns, its better if that person is town, but I would rather be replacing into a game that scum did this then one where everyone sat around twiddling their hooves.

Aggressiveness, particularly early aggressiveness, is a scumtell. Going RARA LET'S GET SCUM is a good way to hide that you're not actually scumhunting.

He misses another simple point here of scum only are nervous of being tied to other scum, so unless he is calling for a FA partner, this is very moot. Infact scum love it when they look like partners to town, so why is FA scum? This question goes to EVERYPONY who is harping on her for this null to town tell.

I don't think so. There are more town than scum, for scum, tying themselves to a townie means a big sacrifice for a smaller gain. Besides, kendall freaked out when it was still way too early to be concerned about buddying. That's paranoia, and that's scummy.

This one is argueably a scumslip even, as he is already assuming that we have two teams when I see nothing in the flavor that suggests a multi-scum setup.

I would even say this is more likely a single scum faction setup for reasons that I do not wish to disclose at this point

but will become obvious as the game progresses.

The bolded is argueably a scumslip even, as she is already assuming that we have one team when I see nothing in the flavor that suggests a single-scum setup.

He seems to be acting very aggressive against rainbow for almost no reason, not to mention that most of his arguments are, generally, not even correct (mainly, aggressiveness =/= scum, and paranoia =/= scum). And he continues going after rainbow in his following posts, which really gets me since the only that I can see him having against

However, as bad as that is, his latest post really throws me:

Also: HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

KENDALL'S REPLACING OUT????????????

WHOOOOOOOOO, BABY, THAT'S A SIGNED CONFESSION!!!!

We've got ourselves a lynch boys, I'm gonna lurk and do other stuff now.

SEE YOU TOMORROW! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*rides off into sunset*

This just seems HUGELY off to me. Not necessarily in a scum way, though. As horridly WIFOM-y as it is, I can't really imagine scum saying that. Definitely strongly-leaning-scum, but I dunno.

For the moment, then, I'm more inclined to agree with this:

umbrage is still a vi

DonJosh:

His vote against Kendall was scumtastic. The timing of it and the way he threw it out there and just disappeared is hugely scummy to me.

HoS: DonJosh

The reason why only hand of suspicion is because I actually highly like my vote where it is, on beefster. As I mentioned yesterday, my initial vote against beefster was mostly RVS, but I'm not liking a lot of what he's been doing since then. In particular, I don't like his vote against kendall since he came in so late with it that he should have been far enough removed from the situation to react with a slightly clearer head. That's a minor point, admittedly, but coupled with his lackluster catching up posts, I'm thinking it's adding up toward scum. Especially this point:

I rarely read very closely anyway. My suspicions are usually based on recurring patterns and posts that stick out.

This just seems like a very convenient excuse to me, and one that can be manipulated in the future to excuse a variety of scummy behavior, and I don't like it. I understand he's still catching up, but for now, my vote stays precisely where it is.

In other news, I've commented on who I think is important. If anyone has any specifics they'd like me to address, kindly point it/them out.

[Silver1337]

You'll see my game ramp up in D2, that's when I analyze the bandwagons.
I didn't mean the bob thing as a joke for once. I'm pretty sure either kendall (or the replacement) or bob or umbrage is a jester.
Umbrage, you're defending yourself a bit much. Not sure if trolling or not.

[mb53]

Would anyone be willing to start a wagon with me on Peregrine?

Vote: peregrine

[mb53]

Wtf is that post silver.

[SodaSpirit17]

Hmm... not sure if I believe that. Most people assume people are town or mafia, and to a lesser extent, sk but not jester.

Since Scott let me in due to off-site experience, is the jester role used consistently enough to where it should be a concern on this site or no.

[mb53]

Flavor-wise, what character would make sense as jester?

That's right. No one. Move on.

[glowball]

Hmm... not sure if I believe that. Most people assume people are town or mafia, and to a lesser extent, sk but not jester.

Since Scott let me in due to off-site experience, is the jester role used consistently enough to where it should be a concern on this site or no.

I've never seen it, but I am relatively new PLUS this is the Theme Park which has more flexibility with the roles and game mechanics so it is entirely possible- something to worry about?...well, now that someone has brought it up it will be in the back of my mind but

usually

in large games a jester win doesn't end the game. So, it's not too big of a concern.

[SodaSpirit17]

Yea, I read somewhere it's up to the mod, since jester is so op. If there were to be a jester (which is highly unlikely but you never know) After all the effort Scott put in to get this game a rollin' that he'd end it if a jester got lynched day 1.

It's safe to say RVS is over I suppose, so Silver, any suspicions that you think are scum?

[NanookTheWolf]

mikehart

NanookTheWolf

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Miss us?

Good to see another friendly name. Welcome.

Can't wait to read some of your thoughts.

Still waiting to hear from DonJ ... Silver is a close second for me at this point. He's dodging any questions asked about him. Idk, but all these replacements got me a little mixed up.

[SodaSpirit17]

@Nanook, the thing is the people replaced were the highly active ones (Beck,kendall,ninty) and I even had suspicions about them, so they have to back themselves up.

[Hiraki]

Which pressure?

Believe me if we want to high five and kill Josh I'm down for that more

See that headshot picture?

that's agreeing with your statement before.

pressure

comin down--

I stated in the next post why I was suspicious.

Was that after someone asked you show or from your own actions.

can you please tell me the truth so i don't have to waste meaningful energy?

I saw your post where you would let everyone lynch you if kendall flipped scum.
You must be VERY certain kendall is town. Do you have any evidence? Or are you judging her posting style.

Well, I'm not a daycop so no.

I don't have concrete evidence. I do have the most concrete idea that he is town though.

You'll see my game ramp up in D2, that's when I analyze the bandwagons.
I didn't mean the bob thing as a joke for once. I'm pretty sure either kendall (or the replacement) or bob or umbrage is a jester.
Umbrage, you're defending yourself a bit much. Not sure if trolling or not.

Scrap that.

If Silver doesn't have at least 10% of the posts in this game, he's confirmed scum.

NINTY WAS REPLACED?

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[SodaSpirit17]

It was after Ninty asked why. I interpreted you posting as if I didn't support my reason at all.

[Hiraki]

what?

[SodaSpirit17]

I supported my reasoning after someone (ninty) asked me why.

You said this

Nice way of saying, I AM SUSPICIOUS BUT I NO TELL YOU WHY

LOL

not funny


I misinterpreted your post. I thought that you didn't see me post my reasoning which was wrong.

[SpyreX]

Lets go back to DJ then I like that.

Unvote, Vote: DonJosh

Seriously vig you better not be cheeky silver just asked for death AND Umbrage wants it too

[Hiraki]

It was after Ninty asked why. I interpreted you posting as if I didn't support my reason at all.

Oh. I see.

Well then that's bad.