ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Hinduragi]

Unvote; Vote: Empking

I got a plan. Let's do this, guys. Game's in the bag.

[Magua]

So who's the third scum?

Or do you mean 3 as in Empking, Locke and Vezok?

I don't know who the third scum is.

I'm going with their being 4 scum because Empking mentioned there being 9 unrecruitables, which given the information he had meant 5 PRs and 4 scum.

Hey, Magua wants to be recruited. I don't. I don't know what you want. Me self-voting helps him out, at least.

You self voting helps no one but scum. What part of the basic mathematics here are you not understanding?

I got a plan. Let's do this, guys. Game's in the bag.

I'm all ears.

[Hinduragi]

I am not explaining my plan. It's a secret plan.

[Magua]

k. Well, at this point, I'm all for lynching Empking and having the scum shoot you. Is this a good plan?

[Hinduragi]

Sure, I'm fine with that.

[ooba]

Vote Count

Empking (3)

- SpyreX, Espeonage, Hinduragi

Not Voting (5)

- Locke Lamora, Thor665, Empking, Magua, Nexus

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch!

[Magua]

Sure, I'm fine with that.

I had respect for you after your play in DEFCON, Day 3.

Not so much anymore.

[Nexus]

*eyes Hinduragi suspiciously*

What?

[Hinduragi]

Sure, I'm fine with that.

I had respect for you after your play in DEFCON, Day 3.

Not so much anymore.

I'm not very useful for cult games where I have too many townreads. I could've told you back in dead QT that I wouldn't do as well in this game.

[Hinduragi]

Though I am sorry for not living up to your expectations. But I'm just done with this game. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

[Locke Lamora]

So if we don't lynch scum today, aren't scum guaranteed to win? Someone tell me if I'm missing something, otherwise I'll vote Empking.

[Magua]

I'll pretend you're town:

1) We lose if we don't lynch scum today.
2) However, we also lose if the cult recruiter doesn't get shot.

So who do you think is the recruiter?

[Locke Lamora]

Ok. Why do we lose if the recruiter doesn't get shot?

And my gut says Spyrex. I kind of agree with you about the Maiden thing, so that's giving me doubt. It would be a really perfect claim to make as CR, though, particularly at that stage.

[Magua]

Ok. Why do we lose if the recruiter doesn't get shot?

And my gut says Spyrex. I kind of agree with you about the Maiden thing, so that's giving me doubt. It would be a really perfect claim to make as CR, though, particularly at that stage.

Because if the recruiter lives and gets to recruit, then it's not only impossible for the town to have majority, it's impossible for the town to have plurality. And town loses in pretty much all endgames.

[Locke Lamora]

Right, but that assumes that the recruiter does recruit, yes? If they don't have the scum figured out yet (which they might, granted), there's still a pretty high chance they fail, given how few town there must be left.

[Magua]

Right, but that assumes that the recruiter does recruit, yes? If they don't have the scum figured out yet (which they might, granted), there's still a pretty high chance they fail, given how few town there must be left.

I fail to see where in your argument you're disagreeing with anything I said. Your vote even says you agree with what I've said.

Who do you think the other scum are?

[Empking]

Question: Can somebody explain why people think the ermbodiment of Warrior is a SK?
Can the recruitable townie explain why they're opposed to the only plan that allows them to win?

[Thor665]

@Magua/Locke - why do you not believe the SK claim? All your discussion at the moment seems to take for granted he is cult, is there something I should know?

[Magua]

Question: Can somebody explain why people think the ermbodiment of Warrior is a SK?

Because he claimed it. He's either SK or he's recruiter at this point. There really seems to be no other option.

Can the recruitable townie explain why they're opposed to the only plan that allows them to win?

I'm doing my goddamn level best to win this for the town. Winning as a recruit is more like a draw at this point.

Both plans require you to die, though. The only difference is how much effort I put into who I want you to shoot.

But since you need to shoot the recruiter, let's compare!

It's not you, 'cause you're scum.
It's not Locke (

cause he's your partner

) nor Thor because of hasdgfas.
It's not Nexus because of CES.

Leaves SpyreX, Hinduragi, Espeonage.

I think SpyreX is legit.

If Espeonage *is* an SK, then the game is fucked, because the means:

3 scum (you + Locke + ???)
1 SK (Espeonage)
1 Recruiter (Hinduragi)

Leaving the town as me, SpyreX, and Nexus or Thor -- possibly just me and SpyreX if Nexus or Thor have been recruited. But that doesn't actually change anything, because the situation 3:1:1:3 means that we can never lynch Espeonage without losing.

So the other alternative is that Espeonage is really the recruiter and is lying, but then explain where the daykill came from? I mean, I can buy a cult that can kill instead of recruiting (to deal with the mafia), and I can see Espeonage-cult trying to recruit LB, failing, and figuring that LB is scum. But I can't see the daykill on CyberSet D4 coming from cult.

[Magua]

@Magua/Locke - why do you not believe the SK claim? All your discussion at the moment seems to take for granted he is cult, is there something I should know?

If he is SK, game is lost is the gist of it.

[Thor665]

Could you link me to the posts you're using to clear you/Nexus from CES?

[Magua]

Me specifically: #2127, #2158, #2184, there's more but I just got tired of linking every time he says "100000000% that Magua is not the CR", you can ISO him yourself

Nexus: #2556, #2686, #2688

The last two for Nexus are nice because they include you, though you don't seem to remember it. I'll quote:

Thor665: Sounds like you've narrowed your CR hunt list a bit more - who's left on it?
CES: Hind.
Thor665: Why is Nexus off it?
CES: Same reason Magua is.

[Thor665]

Okay, I'm behind that.

So we lynch Emp.
We tell scum to shoot Hind.
If Hind is scum we're directing them to Espeo or Spy? That seems tenable.

Vote: Empking

[Magua]

I want more details for Esp first. If he's a 3-shot SK who needs to be the last one alive, he's basically lost by admitting his role, so I'm curious what his motivations are.

[Thor665]

Unvote: Empking

Sure.