Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[Bogre]

Because there are scum among us, who is to say that we will vote on the correct people to receive the prize? It all goes along with individual reads compiled with group reads that aren't necessarily accurate. I mean you said you want Ray to get a gift, well I disagree- not because I think he is scum, but because I just don't trust him regardless of alignment.

Well even voting randomly you will have a better % of giving a toy to the town.

[Bogre]

=
Flavour is scum. He's the lynch.
MOAR VOTES ON FA!

UNVOTE

VOTE: Beefster

There is no way I see for you to think FA is scum beyond your weak arguments after he wanted your lynch.

[farside22]

I never found myself disagree with a person more flavor post

He thinks Hiraki is scum for wanting to lynch himself based on his town read of Kendal.
Resons for finding Glow scum or weak. Questioning Ray who isn't voting anyone else is a fucking town tell not a scum tell. And what good point did Umbrage bring up?
Attacks glo for seeing that Umbrage dodge her question in the first place but hey that's okay apparently according to FA.
Finall this:

Doesn’t try to consider a person’s actions, instead picks sides, and doesn’t really give much thoughts on others

Pot this is kettle. I see you.


Don't like the vote from Mikehart. Does iso has read and votes for the person whom said the least and saying lynch me.
Yeah that sooooooo sounds like scum to me to.

Well, mafia would not wait. And the quiz came up when I first got on. And Toy Story 3 was my favorite (then 1, then 2).

And I can share what the power is, or leave it a giant ass question mark for the mafia to figure out. I'll let everyone vote on that.

So, if enough people I think are town want to hear what the power is, I'll spill the beans.

If the info helps the mafia, don't say shit.

Can you explain why you have not said anything relevent in game since the question came up and why you find DJ and Umbrage scum and whom else you find scum?

This is the crap that is causing such a fuss?

You missed the actively lurking comment too.


And I forgot to FOS: Borge


Scum list in short:

FA
Borge
Umbrage
Soda
Mikehart

Leaning scum
Ray

Questionable MB

Rest is null or town right now.

FA's reasons for whom he finds scum is so full of crap I felt myself seething at the discrepancies. Umbrage deserves a vig kill or lynch. Soda is floating by and wishy washy scum.
My biggest issue with Umbrage wagon is the number of people say I would vote umbrage but doesn't and the back and forth I see with Umbrage taughting looks like he's trying to make a point and failing each step so I promote vig kill more on Umbrage and lynch of FA.

vote: Flavour Analysis

[SnakeSide]

Sorry that ^ was to be posted from Snakeside account.

[Bogre]

You find Bobz scum but instead of voting bob you switch to the biggest wagon?

Scum!

Yeah, as I posted he was one of my scumreads, so why wouldn't I be eager to join a wagon on him?

I can find Bob scum and post suspicions about him without hopping my vote over. It's a pretty big fallacy in my opinion that you need to vote your top suspect- it's definitely feasible to want to run up more than one person.

It's just scummy to want to run up -anyone-.

[glowball]

Note how glowball only started saying I'm scum when I said she was scum. Hm hm hm?

Feeler post.

Actually we found each other scummy almost simultaneously, and I placed a vote on you first....

@ Umbrage, why are you defending DonJosh so much? Can you give me examples of how he "reeks of town"?

Hm. You're not asking why Hiraki is defending bob? Our posts are quite close to each other. Interesting.

Classic deflection, and exactly what I thought you'd do as scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Umbrage

Then after I vote you, you turn around from saying that I "ooze town" to that I am scum and basically OMGUS vote me a few posts later. You disguised it as something else, and I vote hopped and you jumped on that fast- you were looking for opportunity to get the person who knows you are scum lynched. Truth is: You called me town, until I turned my focus towards you.

[SnakeSide]

You find Bobz scum but instead of voting bob you switch to the biggest wagon?

Scum!

Yeah, as I posted he was one of my scumreads, so why wouldn't I be eager to join a wagon on him?

I can find Bob scum and post suspicions about him without hopping my vote over. It's a pretty big fallacy in my opinion that you need to vote your top suspect- it's definitely feasible to want to run up more than one person.

It's just scummy to want to run up -anyone-.

Jumping on a BW with weak reason while pushing another person you say is scummier = scum.

Means your afraid to put a vote down on the scummier person. Means your joining a BW while you can.
You continue to push bobz while saying next to nothing about other players in the game. = priceless scum.

[SpyreX]

Problem here is core group getting torn three ways. I mean, Peregrine sorta just screwed this up, but im more or less torn on him. Almost think controlling his "prize" is right, especially if its a kill. Also wondering if im getting a little too zoned in on Umbrage, but its side things that really make me want him dead. One aspect of the setup sharply changes my reads on a few people (if one faction Umbrage is town, two factions a couple others are town).

Spy - If not Peregrine who is the lynch?

See I dig what you're saying about the last bit especially. Realistically since its obvious doing this the right way isn't going to happen I'd be down with pretty much anyone. Peregrine SHOULD die to prove a point but wont, DJ I still think has a pretty damn good shot at scum and is literally getting away with it by not playing the game, Umbrage death for setup via scum + play and, frankly, sanity. Even Ray I can see although I think Hiraki is trying a bit too hard.

Problem is, no one wants to give. This game is already well out of control and moving farther and farther to whitenoise land which means I'm gonna end up checking out until something happens.

[Rainbowdash]

See thing is, im completely willing to give right now, and almost just want to say something along the lines of the following:

1 - Private lynch election between Me, Spy, glow, diddin, snake, inhim and Hiraki
2 - Whoever gets lynched there we all vote together
3 - Game once again unified
4 - I post more pony pictures
5 - Profit

[diddin]

he's helpful and I genuinely don't think he's scum.

I

OUTLINED

HOW HE ISN'T.

HE'S TUNNELED ON KENDALL ALL DAY BEFORE GOING TO OTHER PEOPLE HE PICKED OUT OF A HAT.

FFS.

Y U MAKE ME ANGRY

So you fucking outline a case on Ray in MASSIVE WALL form.

And then you discredit all legitimate attacks on Umbrage by calling him a VI.

Too bad you're scum this game Hiraki.

[Hiraki]

do you want me to show how Umbrage is a VI too?

you can ask.

(please do)

[Umbrage]

Note how glowball only started saying I'm scum when I said she was scum. Hm hm hm?

Feeler post.

Actually we found each other scummy almost simultaneously, and I placed a vote on you first....

@ Umbrage, why are you defending DonJosh so much? Can you give me examples of how he "reeks of town"?

Hm. You're not asking why Hiraki is defending bob? Our posts are quite close to each other. Interesting.

Classic deflection, and exactly what I thought you'd do as scum.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Umbrage

Then after I vote you, you turn around from saying that I "ooze town" to that I am scum and basically OMGUS vote me a few posts later. You disguised it as something else, and I vote hopped and you jumped on that fast- you were looking for opportunity to get the person who knows you are scum lynched. Truth is: You called me town, until I turned my focus towards you.

Yeah, no.

Look, I just put more effort into my defence than glowball did into her case on me!

[Rainbowdash]

@all

- Ok. We are done. You are going to just run around in circle fine, im not going to take this sitting down though and if everypony is going to wait for a leader, I have no problem with taking the reigns and not only bringing everypony back together but also getting scum lynched.

We are lynching DonJosh. Period. End of story, cut print, wrap and send the letter on lessons learned about friendship (regarding how friends stick together to solve problems) to Princess Celestia.

After the initial ugly beyond reason post about kendall which he later backed off attributing to playstyle (lol?) not much happened there. There has never been a vote past then, or an attempt to scumhunt unless you say calling Umbrage and jmurph "Trying to hard to be town" is scumhunting. That and some of the early wagons on him are basically all town reads. Seven/Eight reads of at worse null on a player? Fire when ready.

No stances, no cases, no way town.

Spy, help me orginize here. We are taking this game back.

@Peregrine - Tomorrow you fullclaim what power you got and what you gained from it. If its protective me and Spy sure as hell better be alive tomorrow. If its killing and you try and get coy with it, you are going to get lynched so fast your head will spin.

[Rainbowdash]

Unvote
Vote DonJosh

Everypony needs to have that in their next post or a REALLY REALLY good reason not to.

[SpyreX]

I think you're fighting a losing cause Rainbow but YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT.

Lets be heroes.

Unvote, Vote: DonJosh

[glowball]

I am okay with lynching DonJosh because I think he's scum, however Umbrage is a bigger threat. We are talking DonJosh(probgoon or something) vs arrogant Umbrage (probmafPR?). I think we have definitely hit the jack pot finding DonJosh and Umbrage- but I guarantee you the longer we put off lynching Umbrage the harder it will be. Umbrage needs to go- DonJosh is less of a threat.

[Hiraki]

(probmafPR?)

[SpyreX]

The next time the words "bigger threat" are uttered they will be met with instant death. I dont care who says it.

[glowball]

BIGGER.
THREAT.
=
UMBRAGE

instant death? idc...if you guys cannot see this I don't know what else to say. Get Umbrage out of here.

*and yes, the earlier statement was basically a joke but at least it gets attention when it seems like everyone is ignoring me.

[glowball]

oh and

V/LA thru Tuesday

Driving down to LA to see HairSpray at the Hollywood Bowl

I leave in 12 hours, so whatever you need to say to me or ask me needs to be done pronto- because I will MIA after that.

[Hiraki]

Actually no.

That whole post is bad.

[Rainbowdash]

I am okay with lynching DonJosh because I think he's scum, however Umbrage is a bigger threat. We are talking DonJosh(probgoon or something) vs arrogant Umbrage (probmafPR?). I think we have definitely hit the jack pot finding DonJosh and Umbrage- but I guarantee you the longer we put off lynching Umbrage the harder it will be. Umbrage needs to go- DonJosh is less of a threat.

Umbrage is either getting vigged tonight or lynched tomorrow. DJ gets killed tonight simply for the fact that a single scum game means Umbrage is town, and if a flip shows one faction it means Umbrage is just Derpy Pony.

Move your vote. This game is being unified.

@Hiraki - Why is DJ town?

[Hiraki]

@Hiraki - Why is DJ town?

Again.

The case is that he's not supportive, so I last heard.

The case is stupid and/or weak.

[SodaSpirit17]

I'm not sure if DJ is lurking because he's scum, or because he's getting perhaps 'lazy'.

I think SnakeSide's legitimate town. He's been actively scumhunting.

FA is still my top town read. He's asking really good questions, and they seem to be orientated towards town.

Anyways. going to be gone til Tuesday starting tomorrow, so yea.

[SpyreX]

Hiraki lets play a game

Its called open DonJosh's activity on site and look at his recent posting.

Its a fun game.