Mini 1211: Murder in Sicily [Over]

[Noramp]

UNVOTE:
For the record I trust Bob for now. To fake claim D1 at L-2 is beyond risky. That of course doesn't mean scum wouldn't necessarily try it but I don't think that's what's happening here.

VOTE: Music

[Substrike22]

Why is inactivity a greater sin than scuminess?

Also, Noramp, just to be clear; do you feel like the claim would've been riskier at L-2 or without a wagon on him at all? Cause I feel like L-2 actually increases the risk v. reward compensation... greater reward with less risk.

[Noramp]

I would say without the wagon because that would look really weird and from a scum's standpoint would bring a huge amount of attention on your shoulders which is usually not what they're after. I understand why townBob claimed at L-2 even not at L-1 it was obvious that he was the main choice for D1. We could all see the writing on the wall and so he claimed but scumBob would wait til the last second so he wouldn't have to risk playing the fake claim gambit. That's at least how I see it.

[Maruchan]

substrike, inactivity is not greater sin that scummieness, but inactivity+scummieness combines is a greater sin that scummieness alone.

[Whiskers]

Inactivity makes me

bored

If theres an active scum in the game, I'd rather have him around so that I can PLAY.

[Friend]

Music, claim.

Or if he's not showing up we should just lynch his ass anyways.

[Substrike22]

Inactivity makes me

bored

If theres an active scum in the game, I'd rather have him around so that I can PLAY.

Why does anyone think you're town, joking aside.

[Substrike22]

I would say without the wagon because that would look really weird and from a scum's standpoint would bring a huge amount of attention on your shoulders which is usually not what they're after. I understand why townBob claimed at L-2 even not at L-1 it was obvious that he was the main choice for D1. We could all see the writing on the wall and so he claimed but scumBob would wait til the last second so he wouldn't have to risk playing the fake claim gambit. That's at least how I see it.

Fair enough.

[Whiskers]

I'm not sure why you think I'm

not

[monk]

FoS: Noramp, little to no train of thought leading up to the MusicNinja switch, with leans from his previous reads seeming to be towards Null.
I agree with Substrike on Whiskers atm, complaining about inactivity doesn't really help.
Further scumpoints for Friend since he wants to lynch someone who has a total of 8 posts and in most cases is simply the scummier side of null.

[Whiskers]

I don't know if I ever answered this. I don't think I did.
Can it generate some discussion? Please?

The first doesn't serve any purpose, the second would be harmful to town and I won't do it anyway, But If I do something so obviously scum-telling as that, I would not resist a lynch. I'd hang my head and cry.

@ Whiskers, yes or no to what I quote there? If you don't know what I'm talking about the answer is probably no. Just trying to see if I'm reading part of that quote correctly.

Now, I MIGHT know what you're talking about, and I MIGHT be able to answer yes or no, but I don't know what your question is.

"Statement"

"Yes or no to that?"

"WTF?"

Can you explain what you're asking a little bit more, so I can answer it?

[Substrike22]

I don't know if I ever answered this. I don't think I did.
Can it generate some discussion? Please?

The first doesn't serve any purpose, the second would be harmful to town and I won't do it anyway, But If I do something so obviously scum-telling as that, I would not resist a lynch. I'd hang my head and cry.

@ Whiskers, yes or no to what I quote there? If you don't know what I'm talking about the answer is probably no. Just trying to see if I'm reading part of that quote correctly.

Now, I MIGHT know what you're talking about, and I MIGHT be able to answer yes or no, but I don't know what your question is.

"Statement"

"Yes or no to that?"

"WTF?"

Can you explain what you're asking a little bit more, so I can answer it?

If you didn't know then it wasn't what I thought it was. So nevermind. Plus with Bobs claiming that destroys what I thought you were doing.

[Noramp]

Monk do you not agree with the Music wagon?

[monk]

I think its an optimistic push on a slot that has noone to defend it and will give us no information if we do lynch it.
You're welcome to prove me wrong though, if we lynch music today, and they flip scum, who are your targets for: bob to investigate/a possible vig/lynch tomorrow?

[Whiskers]

Music could defend himself, no?

Also, does it become okay to "direct power roles" when you are asked to do it? I've volunteered information of who I think the cop should investigate before, and it was "bad, because you should never direct power roles."

[monk]

He hasnt posted for 5 or so days, so I put him in the mental "up for replacement" category. I wasnt asking for someone to direct more for a general, if he is x where do we go next?

If he is town, its quite easy to figure out where to go, it'd be someone on his wagon, however there isn't enough in my mind to condemn music

[Substrike22]

I think its an optimistic push on a slot that has noone to defend it and will give us no information if we do lynch it.
You're welcome to prove me wrong though, if we lynch music today, and they flip scum, who are your targets for: bob to investigate/a possible vig/lynch tomorrow?

Hey, look, town.

[Whiskers]

Yeah, I still like a bobsnox lynch better than a musicninja lynch-- well, that's not true. I don't like musicninja and want him gone. RAAAAAGE! But I trust bobsnox to be town less.
However, Bobsnox lynch won't happen today (probably), because he made a bullshit PR claim.

I assume it's bullshit.
____

Substrike22, can you give me your case on me again? Or link me to the post where you best summarize it or bring up your most damning evidence? I'm missing the part where I am scum, no joke, it is seriously absent from me.

[Maruchan]

Whiskers so am I, I am curious to see his case on you also, other than the whole early-game "you better be joking" thing which is so long-gone and so unimportant if thats the only reason then wow.

[Bub Bidderskins]

Vote count 1.8

(6) MusicNinja: Friend, bobsnox, Whiskers, Maruchan, iamausername, Noramp [L-1]

(2) LTP Mafia: Panacea, Scumhunter [L-5]

(2) Whiskers: LTP Mafia, Substrike22 [L-5]

(1) Friend: monk [L-6]

(1) bobsnox: Friend [L-6]

(2) Not Voting: MusicNinja, Tovarish

With

13

alive it will take

7

to lynch

[Noramp]

monk the music case hasn't really gained much in the way of content since before Music went mia and yet he never really defended himself for his lack of scum hunting. He just kept alluding to he would vote when he received some sort of information but never told us how or when he would get it. Who other than Friend would you like to see lynched today if not Music?

[bobsnox]

However, Bobsnox lynch won't happen today (probably), because he made a bullshit PR claim.

Your logic is poopy. If it's a bad claim I would be lynched. But it's not. So I'm wondering why you're insinuating that it's bad but you're not willing to lynch me. Don't want to mislynch the cop, eh scum?

I was sorta writing you off as overly aggressive town but now I'm really wondering if substrike's not right.

[Maruchan]

I say we lynch musicninja today ,then deal with tomorrow when its tomorrow.

[monk]

monk the music case hasn't really gained much in the way of content since before Music went mia and yet he never really defended himself for his lack of scum hunting. He just kept alluding to he would vote when he received some sort of information but never told us how or when he would get it. Who other than Friend would you like to see lynched today if not Music?

At the moment you, Scumhunter or to a lesser extent whiskers

[Scumhunter]

Monk, any particular reason you want me lynched?