Newbie 1143 - Game Over

[lizk000]

@effortless: ok yeah sorry I didn't see that you had already voted him. I was just looking at the vote count and missed your unvote post a couple of posts before

[Thomith]

So you not reading the thread is a mistake as well, does this make you as scummy as me as this is also one mistake you made. Also you think me putting pressure on someone is scummy? I said it before and i will say it as many times that i am called scummy for it, I was putting pressure on as scum usually make slips when they have pressure on them. Why am i scummy for doing this?

[lizk000]

There is a big difference between your claimed mistake of lying about who you want to lynch, and my mistake of overlooking one, one-word post. Also, I'm not saying that putting pressure of someone is scummy, at no point did I say that. I said it was scummy how you made such a fuss about how you think the right way to pressure someone is, but immediately following you completely switch your methods of the pressuring.

[Thomith]

Of course i switch my methods of pressuring because last time it caused in a possible mislynch. It is a mistake so i changed my methods, is that so scummy?

[lizk000]

Oh another mistake. I got it. Yeah, I feel that it is scummy.

[Thomith]

Ok so you are basically saying anyone who makes a mistake is scum. Ok got it.

[lizk000]

Obviously it depends on the specific mistake, but I think it's a great place for scumhunting

[Gen_Wolf]

Sorry i been a little quite, very busy weekend but as stated usually busy most weekends!

Anyways, my thoughts on what i've just seen...

Lizk seems to just be following the bandwagon and suspects everyone else the majority suspect, could be sheepish (I'm very certain someone made this observation already) or could be scum, will be watching you, however you have made some valid points in the last few posts!

Thomith, you seem to be asking a lot of questions! Maybe just contribute a little and let the questions pose themselves for a while, want to get your perspective!

@Daybid, im guessing at some point you will/already have read through the game as far as we are now! what are your thoughts on it?

[Thomith]

Asking questions gets reactions out of people, thus giving us information, this helps town along so i will not stop doing it.

If you want my reads i have already stated afew posts ago. I feel hazard is scum that is reaching for a mislynch, the sal slot worries me a little but maybe daybid will stop that suspicion, also i was the person who said lizk was sheeping a bit, at this point in time i don't feel that it is a scumtell though.

[effortless]

That was a really good exchange between lizk and Thomith. Wish we had more of those.

I kinda agree Wolf's comment on Thomith. Sometimes I wish you slowed down and posted what you really thought, instead of trying to create something.

But really I'm most worried about people who go out of their way to avoid discussion. In my book that's Travis and Hazard. Travis IGMEOY, you can't hide forever.

Obviously would like to hear more from Haylen and hopefully Daybid.

[Thomith]

Haylen is V/LA don't expect anything from her untill monday but i too would like to hear more from her. Usually my questions reflect what i think and i am questioning people on my thoughts to help me make my mind up on them.

[effortless]

There is a big difference between your claimed mistake of lying about who you want to lynch, and

my mistake of overlooking one, one-word post.

Also, I'm not saying that putting pressure of someone is scummy, at no point did I say that. I said it was scummy how you made such a fuss about how you think the right way to pressure someone is, but immediately following you completely switch your methods of the pressuring.

For the record you missed more than that. You've missed posts #129 and #145 too where I FOS'd and voted Hazard. They were back in page 6 though.

[Daybid]

After reading through the pages. I also believe that the host wouldn't have 2 newbies be scum but one SE or IC + newbie. How Thomith has been playing has been very open and active through the most part as he wants to negate all attempts of him getting lynched. IMO, FoS is on Thomith as he plays way too highly of himself and just wants to survive as long as possible. If Thomith was town and too clear his name why not take the day 1 lynch. Honestly that would open up the game much more as I would put my FoS on Hazard as Thomith was not scum, so on to Haylen since he is the IC. If this seems scummy to lynch the more experienced players, but it makes more sense as it will just leave the newbies against the newbies and have it on a even playing field as it would be 2 townies vs 1 newbie scum. He will not have the experience of playing scum and will be an easy tell by the time it gets down to that point. This is what I am thinking would be the best for the town.

[Thomith]

This is bad logic above, you are wanting me to just give up and get lynched? This is never how i play and never how anyone should play no matter what allignment they are, giving up and just letting yourself get lynched hinders your faction as it lowers your factions numbers. Also everyone has the same chance of getting scum.
Newbie 1085 is the second game i played on site where both scum were newbies, meaning your "lynch all experienced players" could end up in many mislynches, however i am also not saying that the experienced players cannot be scum, i am saying it is bad to assume that at least one of us are.

[Haylen]

Vote Daybid

have it on a even playing field as it would be 2 townies vs 1 newbie scum.

How would a townie know this?

[Thomith]

Thinking about it UNVOTE: VOTE: Daybid he is too quick to assume that at least one of the SE's and IC's are scum, I don't know for sure but i have a feeling this might be a newb scum attempt at getting rid of the experienced players first so he can't get caugh.

[Daybid]

It would have been discussed over the 3 days. If they haven't caught it then it's a town lost.

@Thomith: If this is true why hadn't saldyn make any attempt of lynching anyone. Your also coming quick to assume that I am scum just wanting to push out the experience players how do we know that your not scum and just trying to hide it from someone that has a plan to lynch you away. If lynching me gets you anywhere go right ahead. What information are you gaining from lynching me when I turn up town?

[Thomith]

Haylen voted you too but you only call me out for voting you? Explain why you did this. You don't know that i am not scum, we don't know anybody's allignment but we are trying to find out others allignments, i think you are scum, then you say "oh you think i am scum but how do we know you are not scum?" Instead of trying to defend yourself.

[Thomith]

Oh and also sal made 3 posts, so really you cannot say "sal didn't try to lynch anyone so that must mean i'm town" well we are talking about you not sal so either way this means nothing.

[Daybid]

Ha, didn't see the vote but I stated that it would be discussed over the 3 days of it voting the experience players off. Is not the objective to win the game not to see who lives the longest. In my defense lynching me will solve nothing as I know I am town if it takes a lynch on me to prove it then go right ahead. It'd just be hurting the town. If it's scummy to throw out ideas of a lynch target to be discussed. I just put out an opinion that I had thought would be a good plan but you have proven me wrong that it would make the town lose. Bad idea I understand that now.

[Thomith]

See i don't want to be lynched because my lynch would be a mislynch thus hurting town, you say it would be hurting town if you got lynched because you are town so now you know my perspective and why i don't want to get lynched because i know that it would be a mislynch, and thus "solve nothing" as you would say.

[Daybid]

I agree we should move on to the lurkers. As they called me out so I guess I should return the favour to them as they haven't put much hep to our problem.

I'm guessing everyone would like to hear what TravisB has for us, as I bet he's holding a lot of information from us.

[Thomith]

I want to hear what TravisB makes of the situation and if Hazard finds anyone other than me scummy.

[Gen_Wolf]

Good exchange! Well played Thomith!

Daybid, you were very quick to change topic there to Lurkers, trying to take the spotlight off yourself? This is becauseyour scum trying to deviate attention!

UNVOTE: VOTE: Daybid

[Hazard with a Glove]

I think TravisB needs to do something, it's starting to annoy me. I also see Daybid as a good candidate to be lynched, but first
@Thomith: I'd like to know exactly why you are voting Daybid, please.