Scummies 2011 Nominations

[Lady Lambdadelta]

non random role assignment lol, although not for this thread and doesn't change the scummy nom so.

What's this referring to?

The game Reck was nominated for, where Wraith assigned the roles non randomly.

[SleepyKrew]

I was wondering how Reck magically drew GF.

nth

nonetheless. The Dead QT is funny. " Reck's fucked reck's fucked reck's fucked HOLY SHIT!"

[zoraster]

non random role assignment lol, although not for this thread and doesn't change the scummy nom so.

What's this referring to?

The game Reck was nominated for, where Wraith assigned the roles non randomly.

was there a reason for that? I've done non-random assignment once, but that was for Pledge of Allegiance where people picked their alignment, so it seemed to make sense.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

non random role assignment lol, although not for this thread and doesn't change the scummy nom so.

What's this referring to?

The game Reck was nominated for, where Wraith assigned the roles non randomly.

was there a reason for that? I've done non-random assignment once, but that was for Pledge of Allegiance where people picked their alignment, so it seemed to make sense.

Apparently the reason was to give Reck the GF, (among a few others, but that's the one that stands out most).

[gandalf5166]

He wanted to make sure he had strong players carrying all three teams.

[Fate]

aka the last scum could've been meta-gamed as a strong player and BROKENZ

[SleepyKrew]

But he didn't tell us it wasn't random until post-game.

[gandalf5166]

aka the last scum could've been meta-gamed as a strong player and BROKENZ

Not defending him, just answering a question.

[bvoigt]

Nth Reck for Most Cunning Manipulation

[xRECKONERx]

D'AWWW YOU GUYZZZZ

[Vi]

I think it's time for me to Glork this.

Nominate Vi for Name Should Be In Orange and/or Professor Mafia as necessary

Let's go to Category:Roles on the wiki, which has since been pretty much completely overhauled. KK did a few, Magua did more, I did most by a wide margin. Just shy of 150 pages in that category alone.

And then there's Category:Glossary. 156 pages. Almost all of them were added or changed by me.

The Open Game project? I organized the wiki side of it.

There are some other pages in categories like Gambits that I threw up there while I was going around.

There is still a bit more to do in bringing the wiki out of 2007, and guess who will be doing it.

And I haven't even gotten to my not-all-that-public side project yet, although I think Empking has found it.

Did I mention I'm on the Normal Review Committee?

[SleepyKrew]

2nd, etc.

[Faraday]

No self nominations. Ugh. Shameless.

[Lost Butterfly]

3rd Vi

[Lord Gurgi]

Here's something. Vi's self-nom indicates a problem to me. Name in Orange really isn't working, to my mind. And it feels like currently it is essentially most helpful. So why not split the wiki aspect from Professor Mafia and merging it into Name in Orange?

[Fate]

Wow that's pretty low...

So you do these things for the recognition, not for the good of the site?

Anti-Nom

[zoraster]

Wow that's pretty low...

So you do these things for the recognition, not for the good of the site?

Anti-Nom

Why can't it be for both?

Here's something. Vi's self-nom indicates a problem to me. Name in Orange really isn't working, to my mind. And it feels like currently it is essentially most helpful. So why not split the wiki aspect from Professor Mafia and merging it into Name in Orange?

Also, I agree with this. Contribution to the wiki is a different potato than contribution to mafia discussion, and it's more of a "behind the scenes" kind of thing anyway.

[Fate]

I mean, by default it IS for both because the thing Vi does for recognition helps the site out.

Self-nominations just leaves a bad taste in my mouth in general...

I mean, I thought my scum mason gambit was awesome and played it out really well, but that doesn't mean I come in here going AND LOOK AND LOOK AND LOOK HERE, THAT WAS SWEET.

No one thought it was scummie worthy? Fine, I still got the personal joy out of the win, don't need recognition for it.

I guess I would just feel better if people did things for the site SO they could say "wow I did a lot on the wiki and XXX today, so proud" instead of so they could say "LOOK EVERYONE HOW MUCH I DO SCUMMIE PL0X."

[Lord Gurgi]

If all we need to do to get more people like Vi on the site is recognise their contributions, I see no problem with this.

[Fate]

We DO recognize their shit, when has Vi NOT gotten nominated for that?

NOMINATED for that.

GIVEN it

Not "BOUT TIME FOR MY RAISE ISNT IT MITH?"

"Yes Vi...."

"HEHAHAHHA THATS RIGHT BITCH WHO OWNS YOU"

"You do Vi... you do so much"

"YOURE DAMN RIGHT I DO ETC. ETC."

[zoraster]

I actually agree with Fate. Self-noms feel a bit cheap. Get a friend to nominate you. I would have been happy to nominate Vi as I think he deserves a nomination for it, but I guess the thought never crossed my mind for some reason.

Tell you what, Vi. Let's do this right. You delete your nomination and we'll act like it never happened. In a week or two or three someone's going to come in and nominate you for your hard work. That way it won't have to say Vi nominated by

Vi

[Lord Gurgi]

Okay. He has gotten many nominations. That doesn't make what he has done this year any less significant. To be frank, he does deserve some sort of recognition for what he did this year. It doesn't really matter if he also got recognised last year. What I was trying to point out is that what Vi has done is not, however, what I would call Professor Mafia. He's done a lot of good work, but I feel that what he has done is more in keeping with the spirit of Name in Orange. That is, someone who has helped the site, and people should really know about that.

[zoraster]

Okay. He has gotten many nominations. That doesn't make what he has done this year any less significant. To be frank, he does deserve some sort of recognition for what he did this year. It doesn't really matter if he also got recognised last year. What I was trying to point out is that what Vi has done is not, however, what I would call Professor Mafia. He's done a lot of good work, but I feel that what he has done is more in keeping with the spirit of Name in Orange. That is, someone who has helped the site, and people should really know about that.

I absolutely agree with this. I think Fate does as well. I think he just wants someone else to nominate Vi if for no other reason than it sets a bad example for other categories.

[Lord Gurgi]

There's not really an appreciable difference between doing it yourself and the back-scratching that was complained about earlier in this thread. Nominations will get sifted through just the same as ever.

[Vi]

I actually agree with Fate. Self-noms feel a bit cheap. Get a friend to nominate you. I would have been happy to nominate Vi as I think he deserves a nomination for it,

but I guess the thought never crossed my mind for some reason.

Tell you what, Vi. Let's do this right. You delete your nomination and we'll act like it never happened. In a week or two or three someone's going to come in and nominate you for your hard work. That way it won't have to say Vi nominated by

Vi

In this post you described the problem with your solution.

If you feel I deserve the nomination, make it now. I wouldn't have made the self-nomination if I didn't think I did

over and beyond

what would be necessary to be worthy of it.

Oh, and Fate. Remember when ReaperCharlie and whoeverelseitwas tried to nominate me/us for the same project and I

turned it down

until we had actually done something?

As an aside, I agree that it should be Name/Orange; I have no idea why the original award is in Prof. Mafia.