Open 323: Murder at Happy Sunshine Hospital (Scum win!)

[SleepyKrew]

ATTENTION ERRYBODY
IN YOUR NEXT POST, I WANT YOUR TAKE ON ME VS Q, AND ME VS NS
REFUSING TO DO SO WILL BE MET WITH GREAT HOSTILITY
PWEEZ :#

[Amrun]

VC2.7

Medical Fact:

. Beards are the fastest growing hairs on the human body. If the average man never trimmed his beard, it would grow to nearly 30 feet long in his lifetime.

(0) Quaroath -
(2) Hikari Link - pinkfloyd, Nobody Special
(0) DarthYoshi
(3) silavor - teamsleep, Hikari Link, Quaroath
(2) pinkfloyd - tclawren, silavor
(1) Nobody Special - SleepyKrew
(0) tclawren
(1) Singersigner - Darth Yoshi
(0) teamsleep
(0) SleepyKrew

Not Voting: singersigner

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: Friday, August 26th, 11pm EST

V/LA: Darth Yoshi, teamsleep

Spoiler: Vote History

Quaroath - silavor
Hikari Link - silavor > unvote > silavor > DarthYoshi > silavor
DarthYoshi - Hikari Link > silavor > Hikari Link > singersigner
silavor - pinkfloyd > Hikari Link > pinkfloyd
tclawren - Hikari Link > unvote > pinkfloyd
pinkfloyd - Hikari Link
Nobody Special - silavor > Hikari Link
singersigner
teamsleep - silavor
SleepyKrew - pinkfloyd > Hikari Link > Quaroath > pinkfloyd > Nobody Special

Deadline added.

[SleepyKrew]

Teehee two tag fails :p

[Amrun]

Shuddap you.

[SleepyKrew]

D:

[DarthYoshi]

Pressure-voting doesn't work on me.

But now that there's a nifty-little V/LA tag, it'll be a little more obvious to people that I've been phone posting since the 3rd.

Please.

I guess it doesn't work in that you're still not scumhunting.

Which is all the more reason to lynch you today.

[silavor]

Darh, why is it you want to kill singer for not doing anything, but want to keep PF alive for doing the exact same lack of anything?

[DarthYoshi]

Singer's not a newbie.

Though FWIW, I did have a vote on PF at some point in the game, IIRC.

[Amrun]

I prodded Quaoroath, but gave him 48 hours to respond, it being the middle of the weekend.

[SleepyKrew]

ATTENTION ERRYBODY
IN YOUR NEXT POST, I WANT YOUR TAKE ON ME VS Q, AND ME VS NS
REFUSING TO DO SO WILL BE MET WITH GREAT HOSTILITY
PWEEZ :#

[singersigner]

Singer's not a newbie.

Though FWIW, I did have a vote on PF at some point in the game, IIRC.

It's that kind of attitude that clouds town's judgement. Holding people to a different standard just because of the amount of time they've been on the site. Let me ask you a question: if you were forced to consistently phone-post for the past three weeks, would you be as active?

Why is it ok to hold different players to different standards?

[Hikari Link]

ATTENTION ERRYBODY
IN YOUR NEXT POST, I WANT YOUR TAKE ON ME VS Q, AND ME VS NS
REFUSING TO DO SO WILL BE MET WITH GREAT HOSTILITY
PWEEZ :#

At first, I really couldn't see your argument at all. After looking back at it though, it's not entirely unfounded. What I really don't like though is something you didn't even mention, which is his reads. You talked about his read on you, but what abut everyone else? For starters, he doesn't explain his Tclawren read at all, despite it being his strongest read. Typically, one has a great deal to say about their strongest read and what about them makes the read so strong, but we get nothing. A bunchh of his other reads seem like cookie cutter reads based on the things others have said. His town read on me seems pretty unlikely too. Hiraki seemed like a pretty scummy dude and I've personally been taking it up the ass from just about everybody in this game too, yet he reads me as town? I don't know about that. The whole list just kinda feels artificial to me.

As for your argument on Nobody Special, I'm not sure if I actually se it or if I'm blinded by rage at how he treats me like a fucking piece of trash. I'd definitely say your argument here is weaker, but I wouldn't call it entirely unfounded. Right now I don't really feel comfortable with his lynch, because I think my motives are impure and unreasoned.

UNVOTE: silavor, VOTE: pinkfloyd

pinkfloyd has definitely become a higher priority target than silavor, because I'm honestly starting to lose certainty on him. I've been in his position before, hell, I'm in it right now. He reads like town that has accepted his imminent demise and is trying to make the most out of it for the benefit of the town.

I can't really say for sure that I have a solid candidate for the Vig tonight though. There is Quaroath who I could see, but I really don't think that anybody is going to go for that just because the town troll and the town pariah think it's a good idea. Darth Yoshi is another possibility to me, but I think I'd have a hard time convincing anyone that is a good idea. silavor seems like a waste because I'm starting to lean town on him. I obviously think that choosing me is a bad option. There aren't really any other people that I could see being viable options. I think that if pinkfloyd flips scum, we might want to put it off for the night. If he does flip town though, we need to consider carefully who to kill.

[DarthYoshi]

Singer's not a newbie.

Though FWIW, I did have a vote on PF at some point in the game, IIRC.

It's that kind of attitude that clouds town's judgement. Holding people to a different standard just because of the amount of time they've been on the site. Let me ask you a question: if you were forced to consistently phone-post for the past three weeks, would you be as active?

Why is it ok to hold different players to different standards?

The "it's this that clouds town's judgment" line is a vague suspicion cast on someone putting your feet to the fire, with nothing whatsoever to back it up. That is scummy.

I am not merely holding you to a different standard--as I noted, my vote was on PF earlier in the game.

But if you accept the premis that I am, it is ok to hold different players to different standards for two reasons--one, because player's playstyles differ (holding Empking to the standard of posting walls of substance, MoI style, to show he was town would be ludicrous). Two, and especially importantly, I have seen you promise content and not deliver it before as scum. Hey, Silavor, remember Newbie 1048? Your vote was on Singer like white on rice when Mastin pointed that out. But instead you're casting doubt on my Singer vote. Why?

Finally, allow me to answer your question with a question--why did you replace into a game when you could only phone post for weeks and couldn't deliver much content?

[DarthYoshi]

Also, equally telling is that you still have neither voted nor told us who, if anyone, you suspect.

[SleepyKrew]

DARTH YOSHI
ARE YOU SCUMCLAIMING?

[silavor]

DARTH YOSHI
ARE YOU SCUMCLAIMING?

wut

[silavor]

Oh, the cases thing.
The NS one is grasping at straws, not sure about the Q one.

[SleepyKrew]

WTF
EXPLAIN

[singersigner]

DARTH YOSHI
ARE YOU SCUMCLAIMING?

wut

[SleepyKrew]

HEY SINGER
I KNOW YOURE ON YOUR PHONE
BUT COULD YOU BOTHER READING MY POSTS?

[silavor]

Hey, Silavor, remember Newbie 1048? Your vote was on Singer like white on rice when Mastin pointed that out. But instead you're casting doubt on my Singer vote. Why?

Because singer wasn't on vacation then, and didn't have to read and post solely through her phone. Moreover, you're basically suggesting that singerscum is falling for the exact same scum tell twice in a row with the exact same people around to catch it. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'd rather reserve judgement until she has proper computer access.

That said, though, Singer, your semi-regular check-ins make it seem like you're at least reading the thread and keeping relatively up to date. Have any thoughts to share?

[SleepyKrew]

JESUS SILAVOR
I ASKED YOU TO FUCKING EXPLAIN

Singer, I'm sure Brandi has a computer. And I'm sure you better do some good splainin to myself and DY.

[pinkfloyd]

DARTH YOSHI
ARE YOU SCUMCLAIMING?

What the hell SK, Yoshi is very town and if you disagree you are either dumb or blind.

ATTENTION ERRYBODY
IN YOUR NEXT POST, I WANT YOUR TAKE ON ME VS Q, AND ME VS NS
REFUSING TO DO SO WILL BE MET WITH GREAT HOSTILITY
PWEEZ :#

I don't see the argument against Q, even though he is a bit scummy. And the case against NS seems legit.

pinkfloyd has definitely become a higher priority target than silavor, because I'm honestly starting to lose certainty on him. I've been in his position before, hell, I'm in it right now.

He reads like town that has accepted his imminent demise and is trying to make the most out of it for the benefit of the town.

So firstly, you have been in my position and are like me now. And then you go on to say I am town BUT YOU VOTE FOR ME?? WHAT THE HELL??

[silavor]

He's talking about me, not you

...at least I think

[SleepyKrew]

HL was talking about silavor.
SILAVOR, EXPLAIN