Open 321: Kc's FIRE and ICE: Game over.

[David Xanatos]

It's depressing when people take something like that seriously..

[killerjester]

Can't say I'm too worried about it. I don't expect a majority of players to take it seriously, and afterall the town needs a majority to lynch.

[Klazam]

Sarcasm in response to sarcasm in internet forums never work....

[David Xanatos]

I'm sure it doesn't.

[killerjester]

Sorry, I'll use [/sarcasm] tags like Krazy and TF next time.

[David Xanatos]

I want Mith to include those.

It should turn the writing pink, bold and italic.. and change every full stop to a little heart.

[killerjester]

Back on Topic! DX, top scumreads at the moment?

[David Xanatos]

TF, then you. Still mostly null on the rest.. CSL leaning Townish.

[killerjester]

You're null on 2/3 of the players here?

[David Xanatos]

More or less. I don't like giving reads that are in flux.. those three stick out though.

[killerjester]

I won't push the topic too hard, but I do expect you to haves reads on more than just a minority of the players.

CSL, you're next on my to-followup-on list.

And Whiskers got rung up to L-2 already. There are scum on this wagon, I believe.

Who are the scum on the Whiskers wagon?

[killerjester]

Finished my read through, by the way.

Leaning scum on Cirno and Krazy. Leaning town on VE, Klazam, and Reab. All subject to change, please ask questions if you want to know anything specific and I'll have them answered after my dinner.

@Mod, I know it's a

constant

work-in-progress with this game, but could you update the first post to reflect the replacements? I noticed you still have Yank as in this game

[Kcdaspot]

oh?

OH.

Fixed.

[Krazy]

Now:

Now, on D2, he just hops onto my wagon on the beginning of the day and ignores almost everything that happened up to that point (including his VE suspicion).

Earlier:

Re-reading page 13 and 14,

I see Reab's jumping on my wagon as a bit suspicious.

In post 301 he says I'm bringing content into the game. Then, Xanatos jumps into my wagon claiming I don't provide information and content, and in 334, after Xanatos has changed his vote to me, Reab suddenly changes his vote too. Sure, warriormode replaced out in the meantime, but I find it odd that Reab changed opinion so fast.

TF, not only is the heart of your case on me OMGUS, but it's the heart of the only other PARAGRAPH of suspicion you have posted this game. You ironically accuse me of "faking" scumhunting when damn near every suspicion you have been bothered to post this game is directed at someone

because

they voted you. Both your Reab case yesterday ("I see Reab's jumping on my wagon as a bit suspicious") and your case on me today ("he just hops onto my wagon") are OMGUS, and little if anything more (at least until Reab started confusing role abbreviations).

You're trying to dress up your case on me as more than that, but it's not really. You throw in some BS about "ooh you could be working with cavjj" but that wasn't even worth responding to, you try to deflect attention onto VE (spoiler: he's still scum, but you're just scummier today), and worst of all you throw out Empking's list, which based on your attempt to use it to control today's lynch suggests that

you

had a lot more to gain by killing Empking than I did. You're certainly trying to use it as a crutch to deflect attention off yourself.

And it's not even like I'm cherry-picking from your posts here, your cases on me and Reab are almost the only contribution you've made this game. Despite your "returns" from being V/LA you've done almost no scumhunting at all on players other than people who have cast votes for you. Your strategy this game has become very apparent:
-lurk when all is going well
-omgus anyone that votes you while trying to pawn it off as genuine suspicion
-(and probably) nightkill anyone that didn't voice suspicion of you to stay out of the limelight at much as possible and have a crutch to use in case anyone did suspect you

It's not working. You're scum. Get lynched.

Confirm vote: TF

[smargaret]

KJ, I want to know what about Reab makes you think he's town, especially your opinion on the vt thing. Rechecking the role PM is also a red flag to me.

Reab, the wiki has information on abbreviations if you're confused.

I promise I'll have a larger post later, but I have a friend coming to visit, her name is Irene, maybe you've heard of her? Anyway, I have a migraine from the pressure change and I'll likely lose power (and thus internet/computer) tomorrow and Sunday.

[smargaret]

Oh yeah, TF, why the wifom with the nk speculation? and kj's comment about townpoints looks really bad, sarcastic or not.

unvote
vote: kj

[Reab]

Lol thanks for the explanation of the words . I'm sorry thought, i yet really see no reason to unvote from you since you haven't given any real information besides "had to check my rolepm again".

[Reab]

THOUGH* god damnit im tired i guess.

[smargaret]

and my earlier posts were supposed to be

possible weather-related v/la through whenever Irene has left New England and power is restored if necessary

[killerjester]

KJ, I want to know what about Reab makes you think he's town, especially your opinion on the vt thing. Rechecking the role PM is also a red flag to me.

Reab, the wiki has information on abbreviations if you're confused.

I promise I'll have a larger post later, but I have a friend coming to visit, her name is Irene, maybe you've heard of her? Anyway, I have a migraine from the pressure change and I'll likely lose power (and thus internet/computer) tomorrow and Sunday.

Oh yeah, TF, why the wifom with the nk speculation? and kj's comment about townpoints looks really bad, sarcastic or not.

unvote
vote: kj

Okay, first order of business. Reab's play fits with the claim that this is his first game ever. I believe he truly didn't know what VT meant, and even if his role PM did say "Vanilla Townie", he could have likely just shortened the idea down to "Townie". His little knowledge of other terms supports this noob theory.

Beyond that, I also got strong town reads from his active-scumhunting predecessor JPop. I read nothing to strongly support that either of them could be scum.

Rechecking the role PM was also, like the townpoints, entirely joking. It was just imagery used to express how surprised I was at PI's scummy level of play after I realized I had replaced into his slot. Can you explain why this is a red flag, and then continue on to why my sarcasm about townpoints also looks bad?

[VisceraEyes]

I've only read this page, and I already have a strong newbtown read on Reab.

But that could change.

newbTown read on Reab. Got it.

And then after reading the thread, my townread on Reab turns quickly into a scumread.

Vote: Reab

What?! Did you even READ MJP's posts? MJP couldn't have BEEN more town. And after reading the thread, NOW you're suspicious? I'm calling BS...again.

Reab can get wagoned up to L-1.

He smells like newbscum.

Cirno is probably town.

More tomorrow.

What happens at L-1 again? Why is that number important? Oh, right, because that's when we get a claim from the accused, as in every game of mafia I've played on this site to date. M'kay, just making sure...

I think Empking might be town.

Think we're all just waiting here for Reab to get back.

WOW...you weren't kidding about 'More tomorrow.'...what are we waiting for from Reab again? Oh, right, claim...got it.

I'm not for a deadline extension. We got 4 days.

Reab will be back Sunday, and

will be able to provide his L-1 claim

, then we go from there.

Ah, okay...so confirming just once more that we're waiting for a Reab claim. Got it.

Whiskers is rolefishing?

Unvote; Vote: Whiskers

Wait, what?! WHAT? That more people don't find this absolutely ridiculous is completely beyond me. CSL, after literally calling for a Reab claim, is voting for Whiskers based on.... CALLING FOR A REAB CLAIM!!!!!!! GHUJWJJDAKWKKDVOOAJ COME ON GUYS!!!! COME ON!!!

Best case scenario, he fakeclaims doc, you let him go, and he soaks up the nightkill.

I am not really against him claiming, but I will not join you on the wagon, because I don't believe he's scum.

In 506, CSL states the intent to force Reab claim and maybe lynch him. In 507, I state that I'm not opposed to you forcing him to claim, but I am opposed to you lynching him.

This seems pretty straightforward.

But more importantly than that, can you guys give me a reason you'd be voting him!(?) I read his ISO and your wagon-to-lynch was absolute bullshit

Bolded is a misrep. I was not forcing him to claim. You are blatantly rolefishing. You must eat rope.

CSL is taking advantage of a semantic argument to invalidate Whiskers' defense. No one can FORCE Reab to claim...but CSL's desire for a claim and intent to have him at L-1 and 'go from there' ALL IMPLIES EXACTLY WHAT WHISKERS SAID!!!!! It's not a misrepresentation, it's absolutely true. You're lynching him for something you have been doing for 2 pages.

You guys are scummy as hell. Claim precedes lynch every single time as far as I know, and it looked like Reab was getting lynched. Voting for someone who calls for a claim from someone who's very obviously getting lynched is ridiculous.

UNVOTE: ToonFighter
VOTE: CSL

FoS: Klazam & ToonFighter

Reab is not getting lynched now. Your argument is invalidated.

No, my argument was that you were lynching Reab when Whiskers made the 'damning' post...he called for a claim of someone who was being lynched. My argument is actually NOT invalidated, you're VERY mistaken about that.

And Whiskers got rung up to L-2 already. There are scum on this wagon, I believe.

Finally, something we can agree on.

To make sure you didn't forget about this game.

We're lynching Whiskers for rolefishing.

-.-

nice hammering without a claim.

-.-

I'd have unvoted if I knew that beforehand.

How convenient to say now, when Whiskers is flipped and nothing can be done about it.

I would have unvoted

if Cirno said to give her more time earlier

.

If you hadn't have hammered, we'd MIGHT still be in Day 1.

Yeah, shift that blame. It's not like you were ENTIRELY AND EXCLUSIVELY TO BLAME FOR WHISKERS EVEN BEING A CANDIDATE or anything, right?

Just to reitterate, I've voting for CSL and I urge everyone to do the same. CSL is

SCUM

.

[CSL]

I've only read this page, and I already have a strong newbtown read on Reab.

But that could change.

newbTown read on Reab. Got it.

(Read: THAT PAGE)

And then after reading the thread, my townread on Reab turns quickly into a scumread.

Vote: Reab

What?! Did you even READ MJP's posts? MJP couldn't have BEEN more town. And after reading the thread, NOW you're suspicious? I'm calling BS...again.

(It's funny how a replacement can ruin everything)

Reab can get wagoned up to L-1.

He smells like newbscum.

Cirno is probably town.

More tomorrow.

What happens at L-1 again? Why is that number important? Oh, right, because that's when we get a claim from the accused, as in every game of mafia I've played on this site to date. M'kay, just making sure...

(Lynching while someone is V/LA is a bad move)

I think Empking might be town.

Think we're all just waiting here for Reab to get back.

WOW...you weren't kidding about 'More tomorrow.'...what are we waiting for from Reab again? Oh, right, claim...got it.

(...)

I'm not for a deadline extension. We got 4 days.

Reab will be back Sunday, and

will be able to provide his L-1 claim

, then we go from there.

Ah, okay...so confirming just once more that we're waiting for a Reab claim. Got it.

(Derp)

Whiskers is rolefishing?

Unvote; Vote: Whiskers

Wait, what?! WHAT? That more people don't find this absolutely ridiculous is completely beyond me. CSL, after literally calling for a Reab claim, is voting for Whiskers based on.... CALLING FOR A REAB CLAIM!!!!!!! GHUJWJJDAKWKKDVOOAJ COME ON GUYS!!!! COME ON!!!

(Misrep. I wasn't the first one who accused him)

Best case scenario, he fakeclaims doc, you let him go, and he soaks up the nightkill.

I am not really against him claiming, but I will not join you on the wagon, because I don't believe he's scum.

In 506, CSL states the intent to force Reab claim and maybe lynch him. In 507, I state that I'm not opposed to you forcing him to claim, but I am opposed to you lynching him.

This seems pretty straightforward.

But more importantly than that, can you guys give me a reason you'd be voting him!(?) I read his ISO and your wagon-to-lynch was absolute bullshit

Bolded is a misrep. I was not forcing him to claim. You are blatantly rolefishing. You must eat rope.

CSL is taking advantage of a semantic argument to invalidate Whiskers' defense. No one can FORCE Reab to claim...but CSL's desire for a claim and intent to have him at L-1 and 'go from there' ALL IMPLIES EXACTLY WHAT WHISKERS SAID!!!!! It's not a misrepresentation, it's absolutely true. You're lynching him for something you have been doing for 2 pages.

(Not exactly)

You guys are scummy as hell. Claim precedes lynch every single time as far as I know, and it looked like Reab was getting lynched. Voting for someone who calls for a claim from someone who's very obviously getting lynched is ridiculous.

UNVOTE: ToonFighter
VOTE: CSL

FoS: Klazam & ToonFighter

Reab is not getting lynched now. Your argument is invalidated.

No, my argument was that you were lynching Reab when Whiskers made the 'damning' post...he called for a claim of someone who was being lynched. My argument is actually NOT invalidated, you're VERY mistaken about that.

(Read again)

And Whiskers got rung up to L-2 already. There are scum on this wagon, I believe.

Finally, something we can agree on.

(Not me, of course)

To make sure you didn't forget about this game.

We're lynching Whiskers for rolefishing.

-.-

(-.-)

nice hammering without a claim.

-.-

(-.-)

I'd have unvoted if I knew that beforehand.

How convenient to say now, when Whiskers is flipped and nothing can be done about it.

(Nice misrep. I never knew Cirno needed another day.)

I would have unvoted

if Cirno said to give her more time earlier

.

If you hadn't have hammered, we'd MIGHT still be in Day 1.

Yeah, shift that blame. It's not like you were ENTIRELY AND EXCLUSIVELY TO BLAME FOR WHISKERS EVEN BEING A CANDIDATE or anything, right?

(Reab quickhammered. NOT my fault)

Just to reitterate, I've voting for CSL and I urge everyone to do the same. CSL is

SCUM

.

(I am not scum. You are. You know I'm an easy mislynch.)

(These be my words)

Mod: Votecount?

[killerjester]

CSL, I had a question for you.

[Kcdaspot]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

CSL

- 1 - ViscaraEyes - (L-5)

David Xanthos

- 1 - Cirno - (L-5)

killerjester

- 2 - Reab, smargaret - (L-4)

Krazy

- 1 - Toon Fighter - (L-5)

Toon Fighter

- 3 - Klazam, David Xanthos, Krazy - (L-3)

Players not voting: CSL, killerjester

Deadline: September the 10th, 2011 at 3:00 PM Central time.

(expired on 2011-09-10 15:00:00)

[CSL]

Let me pull up the VC.