Nstride was singer was town doctor, which means the docvig plan came from a doctor rather than scum or VT. Good to know. And Farside was sleepykrew was town doctor too, so the first major agreement to the plan also came from a doctor.
Heh. Then teamsleep comes in in post 16, and is the first to truly doubt the usefulness of a docvig. There's some serious wishywashyness going on with that post, way more than glowball's. It's like he's trying to justify saying it's a bad plan while not actually saying it's a bad plan.
I'm surprised it took tcl three nights to be NK'ed. His opening play was super town.
Hmm. Darth also joins the cautious club of "use it once then never again when we hit town"
-_-' then teamsleep jumps in to say darth's brief post is exactly what he's been trying to say this whole time in post 33
Interesting how teamsleep only starts with the gifs once he's attacked. It's an interesting tactic; get attacked, use sarcasm and gifs rather than defend. Not sure how it relates to alignment yet.
Oh, and pinkfloyd complements teamsleep's gifs -_-'
Quaroath joins in post 50 with more of that "let's only use it once if it fails the first time" attitude you all seem to love. Interesting that yet again we have someone who says they're not sold on the idea of docvig, but could be persuaded. Y'know, if it becomes the new popular cool thing that all the cool VTs are doing and whatnot. ...Yeah. Darth TS Q PF scumteam doesn't work, though, because there's only three scum and PF's dead. PoE time, I suppose.
Ugh was glow scummy -_-'
Teamsleep's post 67 feels town, and is remarkably different from his flailing posts from earlier when he was under suspicion.
zMuffin's post 71 is lulzy. At least one scum in DarthYoshi, tclawren, Sundy, HellloooNewman? Three are dead conftown, which leaves yoshi. He also calls TS town and Nstride probtown. Posts like these really feel like your typical "scum trying to draw lines in the sand" play. Nobody Special's probably town in the end, but this is something to watch out for later. I've been completely wrong before. Hmm. But no mention of PF? At all? Scum trying to avoid association with each other, or just loldumbtown?
Teamsleep's 74 is very nitpicky. Still trying to poke holes in the vigplan. Not sure if he's just trying to poke people for responses to analyze, or if he's scum trying to find excuses for stopping the vigplan, or both.
oh hiraki. lulzytown is lulzytown. at least we know for sure now that hiraki and hikari were town
-_-' Seriously though, 2 lynches per nightkill is the best option. It always is, and it always will be. Fuck this "oh but if we hit town" nonsense. If you hit town it's cause you screwed up/they fucked up and were gonna be lynched the next day anyway. Fast games =/= bad games. But apparently being a fucktard isn't a scumtell, because glow and hiraki/hikari both flipped town -_-'
Why did glowball not flip scum -_-'
Who was it who threw the idea of Nstridescum out to us based on the notion that Nstride hadn't done anything since coming up with the docvig plan? Mental note, keep an eye out for them, because not only was nstride a doc but the claim of him not doing anything is completely untrue.
I'm inclined to put darth in the town pile based on things like 91. He's not really making cases, and that's the point. It feels more like he's trying to genuinely understand the motives behind people's actions. In other words, actual, real scumhunting. He's not trying to sell anyone the notion that someone's scum, because it doesn't seem like he's entirely convinced of it himself. Excellent scum play or good town play, though? D'know. Either way, it's good play.
That being said, his three biggest suspects all flipped town.
Post 94. PinkFloyd. Defending Teamsleep, then backpedaling saying "maybe its a bad gut read though?" It's like newbscum aren't sure whether to buddy or bus, but want to say something because their partner's under fire. I don't see a reason for usually-quiet PF to pipe up about one person's comment about TS if they aren't buddies.
Teamsleep's 104. Not much to say really, nothing really stands out, except for him calling out PF and sundy for content. Despite there being a bunch of other players who really hadn't said anything, and some like zMuffin who had said even less than PF or Sundy. Not seeing the town or scum motivation for calling PF and Sundy out; it's just...
weird
.
Q's 112. Wut. Just... wut. The first bit calling out teamsleep maybe scumslipping feels forced, then I read the rest and realized you somehow end up with townteamsleep despite seemingly accusing him of scumslipping and asking if others find him scummy and just WUT. Botched buddybussing indeed. Oh, and defending TS from newman?
WAIT. WHAT IS THIS. WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. THIS. Post 94 PF defends teamsleep from Nstride, now in 112 Q defends TS from newman? So much whiteknighting. It's like the scumteam
wanted
to get themselves caught.
ALEKGAHERIALGKEARHLGAIEFHAELRKHGRG Darth's 117. Good thought-process, pro-town thinking, and ends up with a massive scumlist consisting of all townies. Chalking this up to him having a bad game (which would easily explain why such a pro-town player like darth lived this long without being part of the scumteam; his reads were terribad) because darth does
not
fit into the PF TS Q love triangle.
Tcl continues to be rather reserved but overall pro-town. Why was he kept alive so long? Gonna have to assume it's because his reads were wrong, possibly right up until the end where he suddenly started having right reads. Gonna have to keep an eye out for his read changes on later days.
Tcl starts having suspicions on PF. Huh.
sundy NK still makes no sense
farside's 147: I know we were both wrong about our initial suspects while using it, but at least I'm not the only one who finds being against the docvig to be scummy.
Because it totally is
. Er, was. Is? Eh, who gives a fuck about grammar in lylo. Or mylo? What are we even in? Five alive, two scum. Lylo. K.
So sundy thought TS was scummy, then lost that strong read to go elsewhere, hunting people who would end up being town. Still not seeing the NK material.
Teamsleep even tries to push suspicion on Sundy. lolwutwhykillhuuuuu
Then he passive-agressively attacks newman while defending glowball while attacking Sundy. They're all town and glowball had a wagon built last I checked, so why would scumTS defend a potential mislynch? Hmm. Not that it was serious defending or anything, but why list him arbitrarily as derpytown if you could push a mislynch?
Tcl starts pushing sundy. Town on town for obv reasons, and it helps my tcl-living-for-so-long theory, but doesn't give me the slightest bit of insight on WHY SUNDY WAS NK'ED NIGHT ONE.
Seriously, there better be a half-decent reason by the time day one ends, because this isn't making any sense.
Oh. Seriously? Farside's goodbye post is what throws out the idea of Nstridescum based on doing nothing. -_-'
Farside hits 1/3 with her final scumlist, so I highly doubt farside had anything to do with SK's NK night two. Especially since basically everyone was suspicious of PF.
Huh. Fascinating idea. Mental note, pay attention to TS and Q in relation to PF the closer he gets to being lynched. There might be something to this, after all.
Ah, scratch the bit about teamsleep defending glow even if he could be a mislynch, I was the only one voting glow at that point. Watch out for attitude shift when glow gets wagoned, though.
Nstride's 166 makes an interesting point about darth. He still doesn't fit into my love triangle, though.
Sleepykrew replaces farside in 167, NobodySpecial replaces zMuffin, who had done a whole lot of nothing before never showing up, so it's really more like NS was here the whole time and just slept through the first part of day one.
darth 173 is some serious freakout to Nstride poking him. Feels like disproportionate rage/paranoia, but what do I know I freak out like that all the time as town. Still, feels out of character for Darth thus far this game. It doesn't mesh with the tone of his other posts.
lol poor PF, even SK's hating on him, moments after replacing in.
SK sorta-not-really jokingly calls TS scum, NK'ed day two. Rather vague though. Good thing to keep track of
Yeah, then he flat-out says TS's scum. Although he also said newman nstride and glow were scum, so make of that what you will
-_-' post 190. Seriously. Can I be scum now? Please? Only me being scum makes the sundy NK make the slightest bit of sense. He nagged after me ALL FREAKING DAY, then ends up NK'ed. How the fuck am I not scum? If only it were that simple -_-'
Hey, would you look at that, SK accuses TS of being scum, TS becomes sarcasm gif guy who doesn't actually defend himself again. Who'dve thunk.
SleepyKrew wrote:STOP THE FUCKING GIFS AND DO SOMETHING PROTOWN
QFT
Teamsleep 208. Accuse the three lulzy VIs of being scum, then meekly attack a town player who's chasing up the wrong tree while apologizing for attacking them, saying it's not really a big deal and there are better targets to target.
SleepyKrew wrote:He has one suspect and 3 fences to sit on. trololololol
Now I'm left with the conundrum of why wasn't sleepy killed sooner. Also Q vanished off the face of the planet again. Maybe this was a weekend. It probably was. Still weird having him just vanish like that, though.
212, TS says SK should be docvigged. Either TS or Sundy. What was his case on TS? Did he ever have one, or is this pure OMGUS? Ah, TS said "I don't know if SK is scum or really
that
stupid." Not a case, not even an explanation, still feels like OMGUS, but at least it's not totally out of the blue. No scratch that, it totally is OMGUS, SK has been after TS all day and TS's done nothing but sarcasmgif then suddenly SK is vigworthy/stupidmaybescum? Where's the town motivation for throwing dirt on your accuser? Yeah, post 200 TS says SK is a VI talking in circles, and 12 posts later suddenly he's vigworthy. ...Well then.
Hah, SK says basically the exact same thing in 213. I really should've listened to the talking doctorshark sooner.
214 sundy gets in on the TS action too, questioning his logic re: TS's apologetic attack on sundy. Because apparently sundy lurking made him closer to a town read for TS, when in reality it just means there's less material for TS to turn into scumtells. teamscum makes so much sense now.
Q comes back with scummy vengeance in 223. Ooh yes. Opening paragraph is blatant buddying, worded specifically to make sure everyone knows he'd say this as either alignment. "Stop doing this teamsleep, you're gonna get lynched. And that's bad." PF TS Q love triangle FOR THE WIN
230 tcl says I'm probtown. Why can I not be scum? It would solve all my logical conundrums with the scumkills this game ;_;
He was also believing sundy and PF were scum. I'm guessing by the time PF actually gets lynched, he was bussed straight into the ground for town cred. We'll see when that time comes. But yeah, a relatively town player finds sundy scummy, and scum don't milk that for all it's worth? Seriously, sundy better out the entire fucking scumteam by the end of day one or his kill will have been THE MOST ILLOGICAL THING EVER.
233 darth comes in guns ablazing about how PF's a useless piece of trash fluff who needs to burn. Maybe I was wrong and darthoverkill is normal while subdued darth is abnormal/not at the top of his game? Gonna see if this trend continues
lol234
TS argues with Q that his attack on SK is justified. Wait, the lurker-who's-town-for-lurking was newman? I thought he was talking about sundy. Sense. This makes none. All he says is that everyone has someone scummier than sundy to vote for at that point. Huh.
Oh, and he joins the PF-needs-to-do-more bandwagon. Little late, but isn't that spot scum usually take? The back of the bandwagons? Yeah. Make of that what you will. Note that he's not calling PF scummy, just that "PF needs to start posting."
TS 245 feels wishywashy and weak, pandering to whatever the popular opinion will be.
248 PF defends TS again, chainsawing the TS wagon members. He's also apparently all for the docvig now that he knows that's the popular opinion.
271 TS suddenly lists PF as a suspect. His case? That PF hasn't done anything. Whoo, that's a new one -_-'
Not really overtly scummy, but still eye-catching. Also of note is that it's almost an afterthought, thrown in to a post full of other suspects with better reasoning. More interesting to note is the fact that TS completely dropped SK as a suspect.
272 PF apologizes to TS for not posting more. Why apologize to TS? Why JUST teamsleep? He also sets up a lovely false dichotomy of "if glowball's scum sila's town," and throws out a NS townread for no real reason.
NS and SleepyKrew argue... I don't even know what to call it. Arguing for the sake of arguing? NS feels town though. Sleepy's obvtown for obvreasons.
Teamsleep's responses to SK and NS just don't feel town. I can't figure out why though. Just feels... forced.
Sundy 302. Calls Tclawren, Pinkfloyd, Q and Silavor scum, everyone else town. Is this it? Of course it isn't. Suspecting PF is how you look town this game, same with suspecting me. Calling Q scum out of the blue doesn't warrant being NK'ed, not when sundy's really done nothing, has suspicion on him, and is at least half-wrong with his reads. Something. Doesn't. Add. Up. ...WHyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
309 sundy says "that wagon on Glowball pretty much guarantees that my scum suspect list (tclawren, silavor, pinkfloyd, Q) is at least 50% wrong, because no way that many scum gathered themselves onto one bandwagon. Q still might be evil. 1 or 2 of the other 3 is probably innocent." So he's narrowing in on Q? Is that it, then? Day one's pretty much over at this point. Was that all it took to get NK'ed? Suspect Q? ...Seriously?
328 TS makes a case on sundy. It focuses entirely on the fact that Sundy's been rather wishywashy with his Q read, bouncing him from town to scum to null to scummy. Also: "Whether it be lynch or NK, Sundy shouldn't see the light of D2 kthnx." The irony. The lovely, juicy, blood-saturated irony.
Ah. 331. Sundy completely destroys TS's lolwut case, proving why his Q scumread is at least somewhat valid even if it did seem to come out of nowhere, and more importantly proving why his previous reads were pretty much all wrong. TS PF Q FTW
Sundy and Q have a back-and-forth. I think I have a pretty good understanding on why Sundy was killed now.
lol341 it's TS to Q's rescue.
Huh. 351 TS proposes hypodoc, Q says it's dumb and only helps mafia.
Next 40 posts all feel so... useless. Just bickering. TS is for a glowlynch, but doesn't fully support a glowlynch, and is playing hard-core devil's advocate here, saying the replacement (quilford) has three days till deadline to prove the glowlynch wrong, and it just feels so MAKE UP YOUR FUCKING MIND ALREADY IS SHE SCUM OR ISN'T SHE it really is a bunch of wishywashy scum uneasiness not being sure whether to push for a mislynch or not.
Then he's back to vigging SK saying he's useless. But not PF. NOTICE HOW IT'S NOT PF HE WANTS VIGGED WHEN THE CHIPS ARE DOWN. Even though earlier he said SK was VI and PF could be lurkerscum.
lol
fucking
wut
To clarify:
"Can we docvig SleepyKrew
I don't even care if he's scum or not
he brings literally nothing of value"
So day one ends with darth pressing PF for actual reads rather than "vig those with the highest votes," TS says sundy's obvscum but if he had to pick someone to vig it would be me, although his read on me was slipping. (wait, he wants to vig me, not Sundy, but thinks Sundy's obvscum while I'm a slipping scum read? How- wut- hurr- uhh-
) Newman hammers, Tcl says everyone vig newman, teamsleep agrees, sundy says PF is better vig, Tcl says that's acceptable too, and day ends with townglow lynch, townewman vig, and townsundy NK.
