Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

[SpyreX]

There is one major downfall with NtW hiding, of course. Enough that I'm definitively going to say DO NOT lock down where you are hiding for sure.

[petroleumjelly]

Unvote: bobsnox

SpyreX, why don't you want TheJakalope to "lock down" where he is Hiding? The whole

point

of having him Hide is to know he Hid behind in case he dies.

After thinking it over for a couple days, I think having TheJakalope Hide behind bobsnox makes a lot of sense, assuming we are using NAR. I'm personally leery about bobsnox, but if I'm wrong and he is truly Town Bulletproof, then confirming him as Town will save a lot of trouble. Additionally, if bobsnox is Town, confirming him is double-plus good: the scum won't be able to nightkill him,

or

lynch him. It would basically just be a gigantic thorn in scum's side if it works out.

I'll figure out where my vote is moving in the next day or so.

[SpyreX]

Lets say NtW is town.

All we're doin is sayin "Hay scum? Would you like to shoot a third of a vig and get a hider? Free of charge one time offer."

The reason why this wasn't a huge deal with bob is the if town then BP thus no free candy.

[petroleumjelly]

So just to be clear: you

do

agree that having TheJakalope hide behind bobsnox is a good idea?

[SpyreX]

Bobs is a good idea.
NtW is also a good idea.

There are many good ideas.

[Rainbowdash]

Yeah I think that bob is probably the right pony to hide behind, would like both, but don't really like TJ living that long.

[bobsnox]

what the heck is going on with this hiding stuff? <_<

My life is crazy right now. Who's doing what behind who?

Rainbow who are you voting?

[Rainbowdash]

what the heck is going on with this hiding stuff? <_<

My life is crazy right now. Who's doing what behind who?

TJ is going to hide behind you

Rainbow who are you voting?

Oversoul/Beefy

[Oversoul]

Why do I always get lynched on V/LA?

Whatever. Posting reads tonight.

Other than being lurky, is there any reason you guys are voting me?

[TheJakalope]

@MOD: Are you using NAR to decide priority?

This is very important.

Assuming the answer is yes, I will be hiding behind bob tonight.

NAR is being used.

Also as to Rainbow's question, it is possible that a person could make two night actions.

[Rainbowdash]

Why do I always get lynched on V/LA?

Whatever. Posting reads tonight.

Other than being lurky, is there any reason you guys are voting me?

You haven't really DONE anything this game.

You seem to get interested in NtW, then stop doing so, then call kendall town but are torn, then just talk about my role and speculate about the setup.

[petroleumjelly]

1.)

DeathNote, I want your scum suspects,

now

, with reasons.

2.)

Oversoul, you just complained about always being lynched while on V/LA. Mind linking me to a few examples of this?

3.)

jmurph3, please explain your reasons for voting Oversoul.

[jmurph3]

3.)

jmurph3, please explain your reasons for voting Oversoul.

Well, I never liked Beefster and had a leaning-scum read on him from the get-go. I was open to the slot upon Oversoul replacing in, but he's done nothing to prove he's town. Twice has he speculated on scum flavor in what seem to me like oddly timed posts, and a way of talking about scum without actually having to concern himself with finding them. First he posts:

You suspect FA because of your fake watcher claim that actually caught someone? What has FA claimed? Woody? I am having a hard time believing Woody would be a vig as he is very passive and docile towards violence. Jailkeeper on the other hand, I could see.

Who wants to bet that Sid is a scum member? Remember how he mutilated toys? That is who I think FA is, personally.

That Teddybear is also going to be a scum member.

Then later:

From Fourseen's flip I am going to assume who the scum flavor roles are most likely going to be..

Zerg
Zerg minion
Sid
Sid's dog
Ken (possible lover with Barbie?)
One of Sid's fucked up toys
Bear from the Third movie

Neither of these were relevant to the discussion at hand, and were about the only thing those posts contain, which to me is the definition of active lurking. He appears to have yet to catch up on the game, which I can't fully fault him for, but he does seem to be dragging his feet on making reads and coming up with arguments a lot more than I find plausible (like in this post).

Overall, his lack of productivity, coupled with my unease over Beefster, makes me strongly suspect that he is scum.

[farside22]

Why do I always get lynched on V/LA?

Whatever. Posting reads tonight.

Other than being lurky, is there any reason you guys are voting me?

Why are you claiming you were V/LA while posting elsewhere on MS without a problem?

[kunkstar7]

So, scumflip actually gives us something to go with. Admittedly not AMAZINGINFOS since it's a D1 wagon but I shall see what I can dig:

Final Day One Lynchwagon:

glowball

, Rainbowdash, SpyreX, SnakeSide, jmurph3,

FourseenCirumstance

, TheJakalope, inHimshallibe, petroleumjelly, chkflip, mikehart, NanookTheWolf, Peregrine

Too much unknown on the wagon. Judging by the speed of it, guessing quite a few scum on it. Two or three maybe.

First off: Ray Montano's voting is sketch. On Umbrage till the wagon takes off whoosh, then hops off? Checking out why.

Translation: I've already lined up who to lynch and when so shut and do as I say.

I vote Rainbowdash, she wants me out of the way. Hm hm hm?

Either distancing or proves Rainbowdash as town. From what I see of Rainbowdash, its moreso the latter.

Bobsnox claim is fine with the claimed hider. Hider hides behind BP, if he lives confirmedBP, otherwise we lynch bobsnox. Either way:

Unvote;Vote:Oversoul.

Blatant sheeps for now, Rainbowdash has got it under control.

[Juls]

The posts by jmurph and kunkstar above do not read as genuine, discuss.

I still don't know if I am convinced of oversoul but won't fight it too much.

[Rainbowdash]

jmurph one reads as fairly genuine to me if nothing else due to the timestamps between when the question was asked and a response was made, short response time means they knew what they were digging up especially since it was not all very recent things. Jmurph is a confusing pony though, I keep going back and forth mostly hung up on one post.

kunkstar is more meh, especially since I have done much better VCA in the neighborhood QT which says something like

At least one, probably two of: PJ, Mike, Kunk, jmurph
At least one, no more than two: PJ, Peregrine, Jackalope

We need oversoul claim at this point.

[Scott Brosius]

Vote Count 3-11

bobsnox

(0)-

Blonde Doctor

(0)-

DeathNote

(1)- Juls,

diddin

(0)-

farside22

(0)-

Flavour Analysis

(0)-

inHimshallibe

(0)-

jmurph3

(0)-

Juls

(0)-

kunkstar7

(0)-

mikehart

(1)- bobsnox,

NanookTheWolf

(2)- SpyreX, Flavour Analysis,

Oversoul

(7)- PeregrineV, diddin, Rainbowdash, TheJakalope, farside22, jmurph3, kunkstar7,

PeregrineV

(0)-

petroleumjelly

(0)-

Rainbowdash

(0)-

Ray Montano

(0)-

SpyreX

(0)-

TheJakalope

(2)- Ray Montano, NanookTheWolf,


Not Voting (6)- Blonde Doctor, DeathNote, mikehart, Oversoul, inHimshallibe, petroleumjelly,

With 19 alive, it's 10 to a lynch.

Deadline is September 10th at 3pm EST.

Replacing mikehart

[/b]

[PeregrineV]

Can everyone not voting Oversoul please at least vote for someone? Just vote the scummiest person.

[inHimshallibe]

I need to be replaced, I think. I no longer have time at work to give attention to Mafia. ):

But hey, more monies...

[Oversoul]

Blonde Doctor - nlt
bobsnox - nlt
DeathNote - S
diddin - t
farside22 - t
Flavour Analysis - t
inHimshalli - t
jmurph3 - nlt
Juls - t
kunkstar7 - S
mikehart - n
NanookTheWolf - t
Oversoul - t
PeregrineV - t
petroleumjelly - S
Ray Montano - S
Rainbowdash - t
SpyreX - nls
TheJakalope - t

I think it is easy to see what my reads. I am NOT going to be providing reads for every single person. You are going to have to ask and as I don't make notes really, this is going to have to do. Either way, I find Day 1 of this game particularly damning of the following players: Hiraki, Ray Montano, DonJosh, Chkflip and some what Spyrex. I think we should lynch out of those 5 people today as their interactions given kendall and Umbrage are extremely suspect.

I mostly based my reads this game off of day 1 activity. I can provide isolated reads if you request them, but there are too many people that I am not willing to do everyone.

You guys aren't probably going to be satisfied with this regardless so... ya. I have never really been "in" this game. I like the flavor from the outside, but the playerlist was quite annoying to read in the beginning and as RD said when he or she replaced in, everyone posts a lot of fluff. One thing that I don't like about Chkflip's slot is in one post where he missed a couple of pages he said "Damn, this town is moving fast." Not, this game or the town. This town. It seems like he wasn't a part of this town. That combined with Glowball's suspicions of him (I trust her as they are a hydra together and I think they know each other irl) is why I think he should be looked at. I have other reasons to suspect him, but they largely stem from those two points (mainly Glowball ).

DonJosh ... is just wtf scummy. The first people on Umbrage's wagon are indubitably town and right at the half way mark are when mb and Spyrex hop on and then hop off to vote for DJ. I don't think it is a twisted form of bussing between those 4 but I think that Spyrex realized too many town were already clogging up on Umbrage's wagon and he felt obligated to vote the godfather (something that I think very few people would do in rvs/day 1 lest it went somewhere). Spyrex voting DJ moreso supports my theory of him bussing and just following an easy lead from town mb.

Ray Montano... just get out of here scum. Do not like your play at all day 1. Your interactions with Hiraki, who plays an annoyingly hard type of scum to decipher make me think you two were a scumteam. Hiraki poked, prodded, and all out called you scum, yet you never felt the need to tunnel his ass back, or do the same to him and I am almost positive you didn't vote him during that time because you knew it was just him trying to blow smoke so that people would get confused (umbrage was steadily gaining suspicion).

Juls town because of her actions and silver's first post is lolmakenosense. Scum wouldn't do something like that as that is highly suspect.

Mikehart I can't really discern and between Hiraki, Nintendoaddict, the replacements, and him... I am frustrated at this game.

Either way, I think Day 1 is the way to go with this game.

[Juls]

What is your claim oversoul? Apologies if you already answered

[Oversoul]

What is your claim oversoul? Apologies if you already answered

I didn't claim. I don't know if Beefster did, so sorry if he did, but I have been laying down crumbs since I switched in if you want to guess yourself.

[Juls]

Just tell us please.

[TheJakalope]

Oversoul, if you are town, explain your role, and HOPE we don't lynch you.

If you are scum, sit quietly and continue to frustrate people until you get lynched.